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  • #2505
    Paul Muller
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    Right, I don’t want to sound like the sort of person who spends all their free time locked in a darkened bedroom furiously masturbating to cutaway diagrams of star destroyers, but I’ve been pondering as to what to expect from the upcoming Red Dwarf revival episode/series/whatevs, and hoping that we might be treated to some more of the extremely lovely model work produced by the Mill that was seen on the Bodysnatcher DVD. I guess it’s a matter of budget and taste and whether or not anyone apart from me gives the faintest of shits, but I’d infinitely prefer it to updated CGI.

    In case you’ve forgotten, it looks like this.

    test shot

    Discuss.

    I SAID DISCUSS.

    #83850
    Jonathan Capps
    Keymaster

    One of the best DVD nuggets ever, there.

    It wasn’t The Mill, though, was it?

    #83854

    That is indeed some fine looking model work. I suppose it’s possible to recreate that with CGI, but I expect that’s limited to the obsessive-compulsive type with umpteen millions in cash to spend on getting it just exactly right.

    #83856
    Paul Muller
    Participant

    I’m pretty sure it was The Mill, hence the logo, but I may be wrong.

    #83865
    Danny Stephenson
    Keymaster

    I?m pretty sure it was The Mill, hence the logo, but I may be wrong.

    This looks like a job for ANDREW!!!!

    *shoots a Red Dwarf logo into the clouds*

    #83873
    Andrew
    Participant

    > I?m pretty sure it was The Mill, hence the logo, but I may be wrong.

    I think the fact that the logo’s on the damn footage really should have left my involvement unnecessary here…

    #83875
    Jonathan Capps
    Keymaster

    Hm. I didn’t know what The Mill’s logo looked and I didn’t realise they did physical effects.

    So, yeah, you learn something new everyday.

    #83874
    ChrisM
    Participant

    Yeah, it’s a shame they didn’t use it in the remastered episodes. I understand the reasoning: they were running out of time, and the model was too large for the room so cameras couldn’t get the distance shots etc (and with the time limit they couldn’t just make smaller models) but it would have been nice if they had left it in the title sequence. They could obviously do that… cos they’d already filmed panning over the ship. (Although they’d need to add the star-field stuff, which was more difficult in those days, but doable.) Maybe they decided to stick with the CG version to keep it uniform with the in-show animation.

    (At least thats my understanding of it, might have gotten my wires a bit crossed there.)

    It would be nice if they could use some of it in the upcoming revival. That being said a uptodate CGI recreation would look far better than the CG of of that time.

    I certainly hope we see some modern effects (be it CGI or modelwork or both) in the upcoming series anyway. It’s not the most important thing, but I’d love to see how Dwarf looks with the modern sparkles.

    #83877
    Danny Stephenson
    Keymaster

    Well seeing as I’ve only just realised it says Mill Film on it as opposed to ‘null film’ as I’ve always seen it, you can forgive my, and possibly other peoples questionabilities…

    #83882
    Andrew
    Participant

    > Hm. I didn?t know what The Mill?s logo looked and I didn?t realise they did physical effects.

    Ah – take a look at it when you know it says ‘Mill Film’. Cos it’s the name, in letters…just VERY stylised.

    #83887
    Danny Stephenson
    Keymaster

    Cos it?s the name, in letters?just VERY stylised.

    Aye, to the point where it just looks like a barcode…

    #83894
    performingmonkey
    Participant

    I’d guess that 100% CG is on the cards. You can’t blame them really, and we shouldn’t complain for one second – models may exist but setting up a model shoot with film would be too expensive to be worth it, I would imagine. Within the budget of a movie probably.

    CGI can certainly look great. Look at Who. OK, probably zero chance of the same CG budget of a Who episode, but it’s amazing what can be done on a shoestring these days. It would be brilliant if it were possible to hire The Mill to do the CG work. Failing that, any old twat with Maya.

    #83966
    Ben Paddon
    Participant

    I absolutely adore this model shot.

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