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  • #4391
    Jo
    Participant

    I am this… happy :o)

    #102688
    Pete Part Three
    Participant

    Hmm. It was OK. Not as good as it used to be.

    The best bit was “You’ve Been Filmed”.

    #102689
    Jo
    Participant

    “Loving you… is easy cos your boobs are new”

    #102690
    Dessie
    Participant

    I really enjoyed it. The you’ve been filmed bit was great. Who was the weird guy sat to Ulrika’s right?

    #102693
    Ben Paddon
    Participant

    I hope someone is recording this. And then burning that recording to a DVD. And then mailing it to me.

    #102706
    Jo
    Participant

    Aw! Just had a PM from Matt Lucas on Twitter saying thanks after I said nice things about Shooting Stars :o)
    Unexpected and very sweet!

    #102707
    performingmonkey
    Participant

    How mental was George’s old people’s home song??

    It was pretty good I thought, though Vic didn’t seem to be getting into it as much as he used to. I suppose it’s called ‘getting old’. Though Bob was great. The new guy should try to be a bit funnier instead of just weird!

    Do people seriously still want to hear ‘Eranu!’ and ‘Uvavu!’ again? It’s like being transported back to school when everyone used to do it. Vic should say something different just for the sake of it. And the Dove shouldn’t be back, that’s boring. I always wanted them to do The Clit That Is Lit.

    #102726
    Pete Part Three
    Participant

    Pretty cool that Matt Lucas still finds time for this. He’s probably the most successful person on there and they’ve still got him just shouting out the scores.

    His song was OK. Nothing will ever top “Lesbians” though.

    #102731
    Dave
    Participant

    >Nothing will ever top ?Lesbians? though.

    Agreed.

    #102740
    si
    Participant

    What about ‘Peanuts’?

    I really enjoyed it. Wasn’t sure about Angelos to begin with, but I warmed to him pretty quickly. Thought the Dove’s legs were amusing, as was Vic’s ‘tattoo’ of Christine Beakley…

    #102744
    Ian Symes
    Keymaster

    My favourite bit: the sweetcorn… thing.

    #102752
    ChrisM
    Participant

    What was the one where he dashes around the table after each verse… then got the giggles. That was good. And the Lesbian song. The old folks song this week… not so much.

    I enjoyed the episode though.

    #102753
    ori-STUDFARM
    Participant

    I wanted “You wouldn’t let it lie” and “Whats on the end of the stick Vic?”. So let down!

    #102758
    Jonathan Capps
    Keymaster

    You should watch Vic Reeves’ Big Night Out and not Shooting Stars, then.

    #102762
    si
    Participant

    The reviewer in the Metro is a tosser.

    #102764
    ori-STUDFARM
    Participant

    I know. Trouble is, I fear the memory of Big Night Out will be better than the actual program was.

    #102766
    performingmonkey
    Participant

    > Trouble is, I fear the memory of Big Night Out will be better than the actual program was.

    I know my memory of ‘The Smell of…’ was after recently watching some episodes on DVD. I can’t wait to watch ‘Bang Bang…’ though which I’ve seen nothing of since broadcast and even then I don’t think I watched it all. I do remember watching Phoenix Nights and thinking it felt a bit ripped off from the club sketches in ‘Bang Bang…’

    #102776
    Jonathan Capps
    Keymaster

    If anyone here hasn’t seen Catterick yet, then you should watch Catterick.

    #102782
    littlesmegger
    Participant

    Was it just me though, or for the first time did the audience seem canned? The laughs didn’t seem to match with the gags, as in the levels of laughter. They seems the same level and volume throughout, regardless of how funny something was.

    #102793
    Danny Stephenson
    Keymaster

    If anyone here hasn?t seen Catterick yet, then you should watch Catterick.

    Funnily enough, my next-door neighbour has lent me Catterick, and i’ve lent him the League Of Gentlemen Radio Show.

    I haven’t watched it yet though…

    #102796
    ChrisM
    Participant

    >Was it just me though, or for the first time did the audience seem canned?

    I didn’t really notice but I doubt it is canned. There’d be plenty who would want to see it.

    Maybe they were just all hyped it being the start of a new series and all. Or they were overcompensating, as audiences can sometimes do. I remember being in an audience for a sitcom in Hollywood once, and the warm up guy actually told us to laugh*. Surely it’s best to see if one reacts naturally, to see how a scene is working… but anyhow. Hopefully UK shows would be more circumspect but I’d imagine that it depends from programme to programme (or individual warm up folk.)

    *To be fair, he was actually quite funny. I much enjoyed his stand up stuff to the sitcom itself. I’ve forgotten the name.

    #102798
    Andrew
    Participant

    Shooting Stars has always heavily overshot. The uneven laughter tends to come from the need to cover the joins – compressing the reactions for time, overlapping the audio, joining two laughs together after a piece gets cut out, etc.

    #102801
    ori-STUDFARM
    Participant

    I’d always assumed it was some geezer holding up a sign saying “LAUGH” or “APPLAUSE”.

    #102815
    performingmonkey
    Participant

    No, they hold up one saying ‘HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA’

    #102817
    JamesTC
    Participant

    If they hold up a sign saying “Touch your nose” would they do it?

    #103330
    Beligium
    Participant

    >If they hold up a sign saying ?Touch your nose? would they do it?

    Why would they want to touch my nose?

    #103335
    JamesTC
    Participant

    Remove the human horn!

    #103336
    Beligium
    Participant

    So long as it’s not the lower horn. I need that, well i want to keep it anyways…

    #103340
    Carlito
    Participant

    Damien, you been on this site 5 mins, and already a reference to horns… deary me.

    #103342
    Beligium
    Participant

    He brought it up!

    #103343
    JamesTC
    Participant

    I brought up the human horn!

    #103349
    Andrew
    Participant

    That’s a minority view.

    #103373
    ori-STUDFARM
    Participant

    Horns eh? My favourite kinda cream cake!

    #103416
    Carlito
    Participant

    Cream Horn? Sounds like a club for gay unicorns.

    Not that there’s anything wrong with that…

    #103436
    ori-STUDFARM
    Participant

    I dunno! I can’t stand fucking unicorns!

    #103439

    >Nothing will ever top ?Lesbians? though.

    Excuse me but : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPsY_nhTtxg

    #103822
    Phil1034
    Participant

    Has anyone else been completely charmed by Angelos Epithemiou?

    #103823
    Carlito
    Participant

    Yeah, he’s a good character. I’m surprised Johnny Vegas hasn’t been around (unless I missed him?)

    I’m not really bowled over by the return of Shooting Stars. It feels like a creature of its time, unneccessarily resurrected. In its mid 90s prime, it was great. Is it less funny now? I think it’s probably on a par, it’s just a lot more tired and ‘done’. What would have had me crying with laughter in 1996 just about raises a smile today. I can’t effectively articulate how I feel when I’m watching it now. It just feels like “this doesn’t feel right in 2009, this belongs in 1996.”

    I’m not knocking the quality of the new shows – they’re the same as they’ve ever been – it just seems weird to see a show I would have quoted in school as a 13 year old knocking out virtually the same stuff now when I’m about to hit 27, when there was just nowhere left for the show to go even a decade ago.

    #103827
    Ben Paddon
    Participant

    That the quality of the show has not wavered in the intervening decade might suggest that the show didn’t need to go anywhere else.

    That being said, BBC America don’t seem to be airing it and it’s not really PBS material, so I don’t expect I’ll get to see it. Which is a shame. I did so love Shooting Stars back in my High School days.

    I think my favourite “George’s Song” was the “Good Old-Fashioned Lover Boy”/”Too Shy” mesh. Even now I will occasionally sing it. I love it.

    #103833
    Carlito
    Participant

    > That the quality of the show has not wavered in the intervening decade might suggest that the show didn?t need to go anywhere else.

    Maybe but I never figured it would be the kind of show happy to just merge into the BBC woodwork like HIGNFY, churning out a constant stream of material year on year which – completely irregardless of its quality – never offers anything new or surprising anymore.

    Whilst the material of the show remains at the same level, the intangibles do not: its place in pop culture, its critical acclaim, its ability to make you feel like you’re watching something very special, that “bond” you may have where this is one of *your* shows… I find it hard to believe many people still feel this way about new Shooting Stars.

    Maybe I’m wrong with that near blanket statement, but that’s how I personally feel about it at the very least.

    #103835
    Pete Part Three
    Participant

    I disagree. I don’t think the format or humour has dated. It’s surreal and that’s just as well placed in 2009 as it was in 1996.

    The reason the show is not as good as it used to be is nothing to do with what year it is, and more to do with them running out of ideas. There are moments of genius (http://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=GB&hl=en-GB&v=oiZZ_Cv2J9Q amuses the hell out of me) but it’s just not as consistent as it used to be.

    Personally, I think the show was at its best in 2002. I miss Vegas (despite not being a particularly big fan of his solo stuff) and think that batch was an improvement on the 90’s run in terms of consistency.

    #103837
    Carlito
    Participant

    No, I’m not saying its simply out of place in 2009. I’m saying it’s out of place in 2009 because it’s all been done in the 90s.

    If Shooting Stars debuted tomorrow, I’m sure I’d love it. As it is, the material has pretty much been done before and with more energy the first time around.

    #103839
    Pete Part Three
    Participant

    Which would indicate that repeats of the show in its “prime” would be at the same level as the new episodes. And I don’t think that’s the case. I’d rather watch the repeats of the show.

    >If Shooting Stars debuted tomorrow, I?m sure I?d love it.

    Please clarify what is hypothetically debuting. 2009 episodes or the episodes from the 90’s?

    #103845
    Carlito
    Participant

    > Please clarify what is hypothetically debuting. 2009 episodes or the episodes from the 90?s?

    Well, either. I already explained I find no disparity between any of them. I think if 2009 episodes had been shown in 1996, in lieu of what we did get, I would have loved them all the same.

    We differ in that you find the show has dipped in quality whereas I find each series, including the new ones, to be pretty even. My issue is that it’s a great concept stretched far too thin now. If we got 10 episodes or 100 episodes of Shooting Stars, they’re all pretty much the same.

    I’ll sit there and watch it, but I’ll find it hard to extract the same astonished enjoyment from it that I once did. Therefore, I’m just not mustering up much excitement in seeing it back. It’s the same show I already watched to death in the mid 90s, but the presenters are older and more tired, the jokes and sight gags are virtually the same, Jack Dee (usually an amusing comedian) is reduced to portraying a caricature knocked off from Will Self’s Shooting Stars persona, who was himself a knock-off of Mark Lamarr’s role. Maybe I shouldn’t word it that way: I know Dee (and Self, and Lamarr) tend to portray grumpy personas as part of their general act, so I guess I simply mean they were picked to fill a particular role function based on this, and… and fuck it, I’m too tired to keep typing.

    Basically they haven’t developed the show enough to justify making more. It’s a pointless exercise. It’s still watchable and amusing (occasionally, very much so), but I’ve already got the T-shirt. And it doesn’t fit me anymore because I was 13 at the time.

    #103849
    Pete Part Three
    Participant

    >I think if 2009 episodes had been shown in 1996, in lieu of what we did get, I would have loved them all the same.

    >We differ in that you find the show has dipped in quality whereas I find each series, including the new ones, to be pretty even.

    Despite the fact that the 90’s episodes had “more energy”, so you’re obviously conceding that there’s a difference in quality, irrespective of one preceding the other.

    But, as you say, your issues are that it’s old hat, whereas mine are that it’s a new hat, but it’s not as nice as the old hat.

    #103850
    littlesmegger
    Participant

    See if you compare the current series, to that of the episode linked below [the other two parts are in related links for those who wish to watch], in my opinion there’s no comparion.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UiOgnzD3VjI&NR=1

    However, at the same time, I still enjoy the more modern series, just in a different way I guess.

    #103852
    Carlito
    Participant

    > Despite the fact that the 90?s episodes had ?more energy?, so you?re obviously conceding that there?s a difference in quality, irrespective of one preceding the other.

    Yes, the earlier ones had more energy. But if Shooting Stars was debuting now for the first time, I would be unaware of that fact and this crazy quiz show would be fresh to my eyes.

    #103854

    Jack, with your face like a stern gerbil.

    #103856
    Carlito
    Participant

    > See if you compare the current series, to that of the episode linked below [the other two parts are in related links for those who wish to watch], in my opinion there?s no comparion.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UiOgnzD3VjI&NR=1

    Completely random but this little debate got me watching some Shooting Stars on Youtube. I had just finished watching the pilot (never seen it before) and I was literally watching THAT video when you posted it.

    #103878

    For me, the best two moments so far have been – Bob asking ‘Angelos, what’s your earliest memory?’ ‘…did I lock the van?’ and Vic saying to Lee Mack ‘You know what, Lee? When you were born they said it could never survive but look at you now.’

    #103883
    Jo
    Participant

    That is all.

    #103888
    ChrisM
    Participant

    >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eIgFIwKpNlE

    Heh. I haven’t found a lot of the George Dawes songs that great in the new series, but that one was up there. Well slightly. A foot or so.

    #103891

    Thought tonight’s episode was a bit weak, which was a shame after the IMO brilliant 4 and 5. It didn’t feel like the last in the series. I’m guessing they switched episode orders round a bit. Whatever, it NEEDS to come back for another series next year. With Angelos, who I really like now.

    #103896
    Jonathan Capps
    Keymaster

    Tonight’s was probably my favourite of the series! The song was good (but not as good as ‘I Can Slightly Fly’) and I thought Vic and Bob were at their best and finally looked entirely comfortable. The reveal of the toothpick prizes was brilliant, too.

    #103897
    Pete Part Three
    Participant

    Yeah, I thought it was one of the better ones of this batch with Lucas being on particularly fine form.

    The running jokes this series has been where things have grated for me though as most of the stuff really hasn’t held up to weekly repetition.

    #103902
    si
    Participant

    Angelos revealing his middle name to be Neil really made me crease up, don’t know why.

    But yes – more please, more Angelos. It might be a silly, same old formula, but, for me at least, it works, and needs nothing changing. It’s like You’ve Been Framed – arguably ITV’s funniest show, and it’s just a silly bloke talking over some silly clips – you don’t need anything else, just something to make you giggle.

    #103907
    Pete Part Three
    Participant

    >You?ve Been Framed – arguably ITV?s funniest show

    ITV’s funniest show is clearly TV Burp. They may share a host, but YBF will always be slightly shit.

    #103916

    That’s because the general public are slightly shit.

    #103927
    si
    Participant

    Okay, fair point. Still, from The Metro’s review of E4’s School of Comedy (didn’t watch it myself – child actors…*shudder*):

    I generally only find children funny if they’re being catapulted off a see-saw into a dung heap on You’ve Been Framed

    You can’t argue with that.

    #103931
    Jonathan Capps
    Keymaster

    I think you’ll find I could easily argue with everything The Metro says.

    It actually dared to suggest it was bi-partisan the other day.

    #103958
    Tarka Dal
    Participant

    > E4?s School of Comedy

    I caught the last 10 minutes of this last year/earlier in this one. The child actors were fantastic, particulary the kid from ‘Son of Rambow’ and it made me laugh out loud for the first time in ages.

    #103959
    Pete Part Three
    Participant

    I thought it was mediocre (assuming the one the other night was a repeat?)

    The canned laughter grated as did the swearing (I wouldn’t give a fuck normally but this just seemed excessive for the sake of appearing “grown up”).

    Will Poulter is obviously quite a talented little bloke and will go far. The rest of the cast were a mixed bag with one or two being embarrassing to watch. The sketches were, perhaps aptly, a bit infantile although there were a few moments of ingenuity. If you cleaned up the language, I couldn’t see this being totally out of place on CBBC rather than Watershed E4, meaning it wasn’t quite the triumph it could have been.

    #103963
    Tarka Dal
    Participant

    > there were a few moments of ingenuity.

    I only saw the last few sketches myself, but I remember one about a chap coming home and finding his wife with the Plumber (or similar) and liked how it did the obvious gags and then took it somewhere else. Maybe I just struck lucky, but that one scene just stood out for me as something a bit above a lot (not all) of other recent new sketch shows.

    #103970
    Ridley
    Participant

    I caught the last 10 minutes of this last year/earlier in this one.

    The original Comedy Lab Kids’ School of Comedy pilot thingy? It’s on 4oD for those with access to it

    #103980
    Andrew
    Participant
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