Red Dwarf Special Recording Postponed News Posted by Ian Symes on 21st November 2019, 16:36 Bad news, everyone. Ticket holders for the Red Dwarf Special recording scheduled for Friday 6th December have received the following message from Doug Naylor, via ticketing company Lost In TV: Oh smeg! We’re so sorry to have to do this, but due to one of our cast members suffering from illness, we’re going to have to reschedule your live audience recording of the Red Dwarf Special. There are so many elements to coordinate when filming a complicated show like Red Dwarf that it’s extremely difficult to pick up lost filming days within a schedule. I know many of you will be disappointed, but we hope that you can all join us at a later date. We are currently awaiting confirmation of the rescheduled date – although we can say this is likely to be in January 2020. As soon as we have news we will be in touch to arrange your replacement tickets. Please accept our sincere apologies for any inconvenience caused and we look forward to seeing you at the studio soon. Yours Sincerely, Doug Naylor Oh smeg indeed, matey. This must be extremely frustrating for all concerned, and disruptive for fans who would have already booked travel/accommodation/time off work. The delay could also have a knock-on effect on the broadcast date, and will require more praying to the gods of cast availability, especially if the recording on the 13th also ends up getting pushed back. But that’s not really the important thing here – whichever of the cast members it is that’s ill, please get well soon.
Thought things had gone rather quiet recently. Assume it may well be Chris given his last website update said he’d be cancelling appearances the rest of the year to re-energise but get well soon to him or whoever else if not.
Sorry to hear that one of the boys is unwell enough for this to happen. Shame for those who were looking forward to the recordings too. Hope it doesn’t throw the special off-track.
I wonder if it’s main cast or guest. Given that they haven’t rescheduled both days it does suggest that it’s a cast member only booked to appear in the live recording on the first of the two nights. Illness must be pretty serious if they know it’s going to affect them this far out too. To reschedule two weeks in advance they’d have to know whatever it is will still be a consideration on the night. Whatever and whoever it is I hope they’re ok.
It’s not necessarily that they’ll still definitely be ill in two weeks time, it could be that they’ve already missed so much pre-record and/or rehearsal time that things won’t be ready for the 6th. This is basically what happened with the last XII date, IIRC.
I was really close to getting together a trip to England for that week had I bothered trying for tickets, but eventually decided against it due to other stuff going on that week. Good thing those series of events didn’t occur or I’d be boned.
Hope the cast member is better. It just wouldn’t be a Dwarf production without something like this happening. I’ll be at the recording on the 13th. I guess now I’ll be watching the first half rather than the second.
I’ll be at the recording on the 13th. I guess now I’ll be watching the first half rather than the second. Well, if the theory is true that the ill cast member is a guest actor who was only going to be in part one (of the filming), they might still be filming the second half that night, and waiting until January to film the first half. Which feels very Red Dwarf, somehow.
Then again maybe the cast member was only in part two and so they cancelled the first night of recording (as it was more convenient) but pushed part one back to the second night and now will do part two on the third night. It’s almost as if we’re speculating wildly without having crucial information to hand.
Your best ever post. (Back on topic – eesh, and I echo the general sentiment of goodwill. But hey, there’ll now be an episode of Red Dwarf it took two decades to film!)
Yeah, I’m not really comfortable with this desire to find out about someone’s medical issues when they clearly want to keep it private.
I wasn’t criticising you, that was just reporting Craig’s tweet. But I think it might be best for us not to try and actively investigate further.
Yeah, Clem’s post was a worthwhile update, I was just trying to recommend a heading off any speculation on the back of it (bearing in mind the cast’s average age is 61 and being sensitive to the recent ‘oh, crude and nasty ageism is progressive now!’ nonsense online, which creeps me out to the core).
being sensitive to the recent ‘oh, crude and nasty ageism is progressive now!’ nonsense online It’s weird to be in the middle of the older and younger generations directly involved in the whole “ok boomer” phenomenon. A phrase used by wankers who would otherwise be horrified if anyone thought they were being discriminatory and un-woke in any respect.
100%. I thought by now the point wasn’t about finding an amorphous Them to blame, but what do I know. It is weird though that woke doctrine has just degenerated into Alf Garnett monologues with the keywords changed. Almost as if it’s not actually liberal, progressive or left-leaning at all. Who knew, eh…
It’s very difficult to have a nuanced conversation about too. Because as soon as you suggest that throwing about “old” and “white” or “boomer” or whatever as derogatory terms is actually just as ‘problematic’ as any other broad-brush discrimination then it’s easy to throw that statement back as though it equates to actively supporting white supremacists or some such shit. Who would have thought that the advent of Twitter and Facebook and the like (other Social Media are available) as primary communication tools would lead pretty much all political and social issues to end up being characterised in a ludicrously reductive and binary manner completely lacking in any sense of nuance or deep understanding or consideration, eh? (Sorry to drag this thread off-topic but it’s an interesting conversation.)
I’m just using ThinkSpace now. It’s the best social media platform out there as I just made it up and no one else is invited.
It’s always boomers complaining about “ok boomer” innit Being a boomer isn’t chronological, it’s to do with your attitude >A phrase used by wankers who would otherwise be horrified if anyone thought they were being discriminatory and un-woke in any respect. Nope. This is dangerously close to “so much for the tolerant left”
It’s always boomers complaining about “ok boomer” innit No, but nice try at constructing a circular argument. Being a boomer isn’t chronological, it’s to do with your attitude Is this attitude characterised as “anyone who disagrees with me”? This is dangerously close to “so much for the tolerant left” It’s really not.
I mean, quite apart from the sound ideological arguments that Dave puts down nicely, it just makes anybody that persists with this nonsense *sound* like little more than an amorally rotten cunt to any human being with any sort of real-world value system, or for that matter any human being that isn’t on shitting bastard fucking Twitter. But hey, everyone’s a fucking crank NWO conspiracist these days anyway, who even cares about humanity when there’s points to rack up on the haunted RPG. At least making it about the pensioners gives Jewry a month off. Surely only a few more spins on the wheel before it’s back round to the queers and the Pakistanis again. 50th anniversary Giles Martin remix.
I mean it’s a term that’s generally arisen because it’s absolutely impossible to argue with people whose mindset is “everyone who isn’t as privileged as me is a scrounger who needs to pull their socks up and deal with it” because said people will never have their attitude remotely changed. So being able to sum up “oh shut up you bigot” with a meme-like phrase is something that’s bound to catch on. I don’t even really like it, because it will only harden the views of those it opposes, but comparing it with racism and homophobia is fucking ludicrous. It’s a blunt, slightly childish, way of responding to ignorant bigots, not the language of oppressing minorities.
You get called a boomer if you have an unacceptable opinion about Star Wars, it devolved very quickly from being about the economy, climate and bigotry to just a knee-jerk way to create divisions. Too Brexit for me.
As this thread has demonstrated, even apart from the inter-generational antagonism aspects*, it’s become a stupid meaningless insult that can be thrown around at anyone that you want to disagree with but can’t actually articulate an argument against. Apparently because it’s a meme you can just say that mindlessly repeating it is meant to be funny and clever in and of itself, thus absolving you of blame for parroting something that’s bollocks in the first place. [* politicians and media commentators successfully convincing certain social groups that other social groups are the cause of all their ills, and stoking antagonism between them? Well I never etc.]
I mean it’s a term that’s generally arisen because it’s absolutely impossible to argue with people whose mindset is “everyone who isn’t as privileged as me is a scrounger who needs to pull their socks up and deal with it” because said people will never have their attitude remotely changed. So being able to sum up “oh shut up you bigot” with a meme-like phrase is something that’s bound to catch on. Yeah, I guess this is why I object to Ben both characterising me in this way and seeking to dismiss me in this way as he did upthread, apparently with no basis for it whatsoever. It feels like mindless parroting of the term without any understanding of it.
Utterly astonishing that the simple phrase “ok boomer” can illicit such an incredible response from multiple people. Truly beautiful. That is the phrase’s power.
Not really, you could also run up to strangers in the street and call them fucking wankers and get a similar response. Although you probably wouldn’t get the same misguided sense of having said something meaningful or profound. Anyway Ben, I’m sure you can explain exactly what reasons you have for characterising me as a ‘boomer’ upthread, can’t you? Because from my perspective it feels a little bit like you might have been talking bollocks.
I was really close to getting together a trip to England for that week had I bothered trying for tickets That’s admirable (near-)dedication, seeing a recording would be an amazing memory to have. I should have applied for X-XII tickets on the off chance I’d get them and have to book some flights, but I just left it for other people. There’s always next time, until there isn’t.
Out of Time was a prescient dramatisation of aggro millennials fighting back against grotesque caricatures of their boomer selves they’re on the path to becoming. But most of us just like to get along and not make a bad atmosphere for no reason again.
But most of us just like to get along and not make a bad atmosphere for no reason again. I apologise unreservedly for dragging this thread off-topic and into what turned out to be a nasty discussion. Sorry.
From the latest TOS update: For those who’ve wondered about this on social media, the cast member in question is now fully recovered and production of the show is still continuing apace; and at the time of writing the second audience recording on 13th December is still scheduled to take place (it’s just that it’ll now become the first recording!) So it sounds like it might have been a question of availability for the pre-records rather than on the night.
