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  • #218409
    flanl3
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    Hello my friends,
    As you may have guessed, I live in America (Region 1), where the original DVDs look quite a lot different. As some of you may be, I’m interested in having all my new DVDs match the old ones, unfortunately, nobody’s made replacement/reversible covers for us. As such, I’d like a little help with font identification, if possible. There’s a few fonts I’m unsure on, namely, every single one except the Times New Roman (ew) of the logo/spine. Anything helps. Thanks.

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  • #218410
    flanl3
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    Ooh, I should probably say that the nicest version I could find online was the VIII one at . Good luck.

    #218411

    Episode titles and descriptive text – Microgramma (Bold Extended) or Eurostile (Black Extended).

    Check the weights and typeface itself, there’s subtle differences between both but not enough to be a concern at a smaller point size.

    #218417
    GlenTokyo
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    I’ve always used Microgramma D Bold Extended personally, and on the UK release, the blurb is in a medium Microgramma.

    #218419
    flanl3
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    I don’t believe you’re correct, as the font on R1 DVDs are quite different, but thanks anyhow.

    #218420
    GlenTokyo
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    Oh is that official? Didn’t realise, thought it was a fan made one. Yeah, the UK has Microgramma but I recognise the font on the US one. I’ll get back to you.

    #218421

    Oh wait, you wanted the fonts for the R1 DVDs. I gave you the R2 UK fonts, I’m ignorant.

    Having had a peek at them, fucked if I know, stick to the R2 UK DVDs, they’re all killer, no filler.

    #218422
    flanl3
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    I know those pictures are a little low-res, I’ll see if I can’t scan a better version when I get home.

    #218423
    flanl3
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    Oh yeah, also, is there any clean version of the backgrounds? Because, if not, I suppose I’ll just use that beautiful panoramic shot of the bunkroom for X, and, well, who knows what for the XI.

    #218424
    flanl3
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    the XI

    #218425
    GlenTokyo
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    Right, so I’m almost certain the blurb font is Agency FB Bold Condensed, the “Bonus Features” font is really recognisable but it’s escaping me at the moment.

    #218426
    GlenTokyo
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    Sorry, the list of bonus features is Agency FB Bold Condensed, the blurb is another Agency FB I think, maybe Regular Compressed.

    #218427
    flanl3
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    I can’t name the BONUS FEATURES font, but it seems it’s the same as THE ORIGINAL AND EXTENDED SERIES, so I suppose if you find one of them you’ve killed two birds with one stone.

    #218428
    GlenTokyo
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    Yeah they’re the same. I reckon that one is Mecanic.

    #218429
    flanl3
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    I don’t think it is, as evidenced by the way the L in Mecanic curls up while the L in ‘ORIGINAL’ doesn’t, but it’s close enough that I could try it.

    #218431
    GlenTokyo
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    Mecanic is a good place to start, maybe search for fonts similar to it, you could always use something like Post Industrial Dark for the L’s or just lop a bit off the L.

    As for the backgrounds, for the back, I’d scan one of your existing ones, because the picture of Lister painting the ship is the same on all of them, just put the background through hue and saturation on photoshop and have a fiddle until it matches the front.

    The front, it might be worth seeing if you can get a decent screenshot maybe? There aren’t many proper pictures of the XI Starbug interior. A bluray screenshot of the cockpit with Lister at the helm, with him cropped out, might be alright.

    #218433
    GlenTokyo
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    http://www.reddwarf.co.uk/news/2016/10/14/cover-story/cover-story-2-large.jpg</img&gt;

    That’s the largest picture of the Region 2 release from TOS, maybe a slight scale up and fiddle in photoshop wouldn’t do too much damage, it’s not far off.

    Maybe check deviantart too and see if someone’s beaten you to it.

    #218434
    GlenTokyo
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    #218437
    flanl3
    Participant

    Alright, here’s a niceish quality scan, should help quite a bit:

    #218438
    flanl3
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    Crap.

    Maybe?

    #218443
    Ben Paddon
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    I’ve always had mixed feelings about the US DVDs. They lack the logo spine which simultaneously sidesteps the alignment issue while also rendering the spines less interesting. But they also have that silver foil effect on the logo.

    #218445
    Pete Part Three
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    That BBC Video logo is damn ugly though.

    #218450
    flanl3
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    I’ll be honest, I would stare at my US spines all day, while I just find the UK ones, even with the logo set up… odd. Although it would probably do a much better job encouraging me to put them back in the box.

    Oh yes, the foil. It’s lovely.

    #218454
    Dave
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    Is it the foil effect that’s making Rimmer look like he’s in some kind of Oswald Mosley-approved version of his costume in that scan upthread?

    #218458
    Richietee
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    I often wondered why the US DVD covers use different photos of Rimmer and Lister but found this on an old TOS article

    #218459
    Richietee
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    “Changes to the cover art reflect the difference between the UK and USA markets, but that doesn’t mean the team haven’t stayed close to the heart of Red Dwarf: “We wanted the US covers to show off the fun, quirky humour of the program, and felt that this will help the show to stand out in a video store on a crowded Sci-Fi shelf, where other Sci-Fi packaging is more serious. One of the things we love about the program is that, while the product itself is of a very high quality, it has a tongue-in-cheek irreverence and isn’t afraid to laugh at itself. We wanted the package to reflect that, so we tried to select images which were funny and make them a little more prominent on the package front.”

    #218460
    flanl3
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    This is honestly my favorite of the US covers because it looks like Lister’s actually shooting Rimmer.

    Is it the foil effect that’s making Rimmer look like he’s in some kind of Oswald Mosley-approved version of his costume in that scan upthread?

    Don’t know what you mean, but the foil is on the front logo & numeral, text on the spine, and the logo in the episode box.

    #218461
    flanl3
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    Oh, and ‘THE ORIGINAL SERIES FOUR’

    #218462
    GlenTokyo
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    The ‘original series’ and ‘bonus features’ font is Armada, Bold for some maybe medium condensed or compressed for the smaller stuff. The blurb is probably Armada light condensed or compressed. You’d have to look it up.

    #218463
    Dave
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    I was referring to the colour of Rimmer’s costume, it looks very black in that pic. I presume it looks shiny with the foil effect, but the scan has made it look dark?

    #218464
    flanl3
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    Well, for the TOS image:

    So, yes, Rimmer’s uniform for the picture is black, but it normally does stand out from the foil.

    #218465
    flanl3
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    Also, thank you much to GlenTokyo.
    Okay, the uniform isn’t exactly black, but the shot makes it look pretty dark.

    #218466
    Dave
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    Oh, it’s just a particularly dark shot of the shiny suit then. Not what I thought at all. Thanks.

    #218469
    GlenTokyo
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    No problem, I’m a stickler for correct fonts haha… I’ve been mocking something up, trying to fiddle the Region 2 one, so I’ll try and get that done tonight if I have time and you can see what you think/ alter it/ pilfer bits.

    #218493
    GlenTokyo
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    http://i.imgur.com/UaznlpP.jpg</img&gt;

    Bit rough in places, but considering what I had to work with I’m quite pleased.

    #218494
    GlenTokyo
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    I can’t fucking embed an image to save my life, try again.

    #218495
    GlenTokyo
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    Bugger my arse, there’s a typo. Corrected here.

    #218496
    Dave
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    That looks splendid.

    #218500
    peas_and_corn
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    Needs the series 12 episode titles.

    #218503
    flanl3
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    Very nice. As in very, very nice. A couple of things I notice, though, having spent much time staring at the R1 covers myself:
    – The Rimmer and Lister picture should be split, although that would probably near impossible given the unavailability of a clean copy of the background.
    – if properly done, the complete series eleven bar fades across.
    – “Kruten”
    – The bonus features font isn’t wide enough, while the episode titles are too wide.

    But again, VERY nicely done.

    #218504

    R1 DVD for once looking better than R2 shocker.

    #218506
    flanl3
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    R1 has always looked better, but XI colors especially suit the format.

    #218509
    flanl3
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    Also, not sure how well it would work with just seven, but I know with the original run’s eleven to twenty (ish) extras per DVD, the bonus features box would just move its top up & down so as to not leave blank spaces.

    #218511
    Ben Paddon
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    I’d probably use that ancient ‘n’ ‘orrible BBC Video logo, just for consistency’s sake, but otherwise splendid.

    I don’t suppose anyone’s done Region 1 versions alt covers for BTE and X, have they?

    #218512
    flanl3
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    I don’t suppose anyone’s done Region 1 versions alt covers for BTE and X, have they?

    Not any worth using.

    Also, that WB logo could definitely use being swapped out for the idk-what-symbol-that-is symbol and that thing I’ll call an “E-code”. Probably incorrect, probably irrelevant, and probably outdated, and I definitely don’t know what it means, but the numbers which would match for that:
    BTE: 0840
    X: 1206
    XI: 5434

    And that shot of Lister is a noticeably different one, but at least it’s sexy.

    #218513
    flanl3
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    Could I be putting my microanalysis abilities to better use? Definitely. So what.

    #218515
    GlenTokyo
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    The picture of Lister is different, he’s not painting, just resting, but it’s the highest resolution picture I could find from the shoot without having to plug my scanner in.

    With the extras box, I tried shrinking it down to fit just the extras but the large blue space above all the production company logos looked worse than the empty spaces in the extras box, at least the box is interesting.

    The black box at the top does fade, but the top of the picture is dark, and I had to pull it down a little to hide some stuff from the bottom of the region 2 box, so underneath is just clone tooled and drawn in so it’s a bit ropey. That’s why I went for a darker fade.

    I’ll fix the Kruten typo later, and have a look at the episodes font.

    The symbol you don’t know that you’re on about, do you mean the Closed Captions symbol? Squared speech bubble? I also might change the WB logo to a simpler one, but a lot of it is done to hide things from the region 2 one, for example the 2 Entertain logo is under threat WB.

    There’s a lot of that front cover around the bottom and near the top left that I had to draw, because all of the Region 2 shite was all over it. And Rimmer and Lister are together because Rimmer and Lister are still there underneath, though only from the nipple up once I moved the cover down. I had to paint out the barrel of the Bazookoid.

    I thought about finding the SFX cover images so I could put one of Danny above the R in Red but I thought it was getting too busy.

    As for the BBC video, I was going to but I thought it’d be more fake realistic to use the current logos at the time of print if you get what I mean.

    #218518
    flanl3
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    Yeah, so I guessed for most of that. Still, it looks quite lovely.

    #218523
    GlenTokyo
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    Ok, so this is my final one for XI reckon, fixed the typos I hope, changed “The Complete Series Eleven” to “The Complete Eleventh Series” because it’s better English and that’s what it actually says on the Region 2 one.

    Changed the BBC logo to a BBC Video logo, added the E code and Closed Caption logo and got rid of the WB on the spine. Lightened the fade at the top of the front cover as much as I’m comfortable with so that it still hides the crimes beneath.

    Lined up the ‘Red Dwarf’ on the spine with the scan flanl provided, so were anyone to actually print it out, it should line up (theoretically). Also aligned the CC and DVD logos a bit more for consistency.

    On the back, fixed the typos, got the font sizes near enough correct, shrank the special features box to fit the amount of actual special features, and moved the production and distribution logos up to fill the space. To fill the space that made I’ve changed the layout of the legal shite to go all the way across the case. Generally tweaked the locations of things to make it nicer.

    Lister is still having a rest a) because I can’t find the cable to my scanner and b) it’s an anti fob off device, anyone tries to say it’s official and get Danny angry at not being on the box, you can say it’s a fan made thing.

    I’m contemplating starting a thread with it on for any Americans on here if they’d like it. It might be a bit buried in here now. What do you reckon?

    Might have a go at BTE and X too now I have a workable template. We’ll see, maybe next week. I’m finding it quite amusing that I can also make a series XII cover as well if I want. Just get the episode titles from the steelbook and cobble together a bit of a synopsis from the set reports. Choose a different picture for the front (maybe Cat and Kryten) and blam – series XII cover 11 months before broadcast.

    #218524
    Pete Part Three
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    >I’m contemplating starting a thread with it on for any Americans on here if they’d like it.

    Some of the Brits would be interested too, as I appreciate a nice design (and that is nice). It’ll also make a change from some of the crap forum threads recently.

    #218525
    flanl3
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    Oh my, that is definitely beautiful. I mean, the synopsis text has always been justified left rather than aligned to the center, but I’d say it looks better centered anyhow. But I do believe that is one of the loveliest things I’ve seen all month. Year, maybe.

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