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  • #90374
    Jonathan Capps
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    *waits patiently for a dose of Phil’s condensed ‘milk’*

    #90386
    Phil
    Participant

    *cums in Cappsy’s ‘mouth’*

    #90485
    Ridley
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    Give quiche a chance. ;)

    #90498
    Phil
    Participant

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zcaZqfeSQJk
    Teenagers From Outer Space

    #90793
    Phil
    Participant

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=keQBlvMs7VY
    Tommy, with special guest reviewer Christian Bale

    #91113
    peas_and_corn
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    My other half likes Tommy. I of course think it’s shit. She commented-

    Well, they’re [the songs] sung by actors who can sing (I acutally think that are lot of the roles are filled by singers who are being asked to act – Like Tina Turner). And Roger Daltrey – who played Tommy – actually got a lot of lyrics AND had a difficult character to play

    He’s cranky that the band only appear in one scene, but he doesn’t acknowledge that they play the music in other scenes, if not the whole movie

    …and the Christian Bale element isn’t as entertaining as a review sans-Christian would be [something I agree with… not all that funny- though your videos are on the whole good]

    #91170
    Phil
    Participant

    It’s true that The Who play a good deal of the music in the film (but not all of it), but the performances are WELL inferior to the ones they cut for the album. It’s not even a case of a poor remix…they’re all new performances, and they truly suck in comparison. It’s not a rock opera any more…it’s synthpop.

    So yeah, they’re a great band, but the music in that film might leave one thinking otherwise.

    Also, Daltrey’s a fine actor (seriously…I don’t know why typing that makes me feel like I’m being sarcastic) but, again, I don’t think this is the film for him. He MIGHT be doing interesting things with the character, but the film is so stylized and choppy and distracting that it gets buried too deep to be appreciated. I honestly feel that Moon (as Uncle Ernie) comes across as a better actor in this film simply because his absurd over-the-top gurning fits the universe better than Daltrey’s subtlety.

    Thanks for the critique, though. For obvious reasons I don’t bother to say if there’s something I do like unless I REALLY like it (I’m still, to this day, partial to the Elton John version of Pinball Wizard, and I think that sequence in the film is a hell of a lot of fun).

    I’m still experimenting with the format of the “episodes” so the feedback (even–or maybe especially–the negative) is very helpful. I’ve done The Amazing Transparent man, now, which you can find on the youtube page, broken up a little differently, and I think next time I’ll do the more recent (shittier) version of Lolita…I have some (hopefully) good ideas for that one.

    #91173
    ChrisM
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    Tommy… hmm. A mixed one that. I actually quite like some of the songs (although I’ll accept the albumn versions are better- although I haven’t heard them. It makes sense since that’s the medium their aimed at.) I rather liked Tina Turner’s freaky performance though. Great song… and rather disturbing too.

    Come to think of it, a lot of the film is rather disturbing.

    I wasn’t over keen on the story itself, but it served as a platform for the performances so that’s ok.

    It’s kind of like the Blues Brothers films in that respect (although they’re tone is rather different.) The story-lines are extremely basic and I even found some of the car chase/stunt scenes dragged on a bit long in the end. But.. excellent music.

    #91187
    Phil
    Participant

    You’re an interesting test subject, there, Chris. You must be one of a very small fraction of people who watched the film version of Tommy without having heard the album.

    For me–and for others–the film versions will always be judged in comparison to the original cuts, and I don’t think that’s out of line. The problem for me isn’t that they’re different…it’s that they’re also ten thousand times worse.

    Take away the ability for me to compare them to anything else and it’s likely I’d be more receptive to them. (Similar to the Dwarf remastered argument, really.)

    I LIKE the idea of re-orchestrating the album. Extending some songs, dropping others…that’s all coming from a really good impulse: the impulse to make the film stand apart as its own entity, and not a slave to the original (which would doom it to failure).

    And I think the “actors” having so many of the lyrics does hurt the film. peas_and_corn is exactly right in saying that many of them were known as singers primarily, but for every Tina Turner there’s a Jack Nicholson. And for every Elton John there’s an Oliver Reed. By the time Daltrey is healed and actually gets to sing anything, I’ve already suffered through a solid hour of great actors butchering great songs. (Clapton hardly counts at all since he just shows up to mumble his way through a cover song in a way that makes latter-day Dylan sound like fucking Frank Sinatra.)

    It’s an interesting discussion, though. I’m thoroughly disappointed by Tommy, but I don’t hate it. It’s a fascinating experiment. But when all is said and done, Quadrophenia is the perfect example of how an album SHOULD be made into a film.

    #91199
    ChrisM
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    You?re an interesting test subject, there, Chris. You must be one of a very small fraction of people who watched the film version of Tommy without having heard the album.

    I think I’ve heard the odd song here and there, or in concerts on the telly. But the albumn itself, no. (At least I don’t thinks so.)

    >And for every Elton John there?s an Oliver Reed.

    Oh, yes that’s triggered a memory. Pancake central. Not the plump American kind. Ouch.

    #91224
    peas_and_corn
    Participant

    I haven’t heard the album either (not all the way through)

    #93873
    Phil
    Participant

    By popular demand, Bloody Pit of Horror!
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=almVTWRjRmM

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