has anyone ever eaten a Shami kebab? What are they like?

[tombow]

I always wanted one after hearing Lister’s love, but I only ever see Shish kebabs. It’s only just occurred to me to google them now.

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[clem]

It sounds nice. I want one now too.

From the ‘In popular culture’ section of the Wikipedia article: ‘Although the popular form of the Shami Kebab is a round patty, Dave makes his more like the sausage shape of the Seekh Kebab.’
I guess it wouldn’t wriggle on the plate or attach itself to Lister’s neck as effectively if it wasn’t sausage-shaped.

[tombow]

i forgot I’m a vegetarian. Linda McCartney heirs or Quorn get on this

[Dave]

Yeah, the kebab in Polymorph has always looked more like a seekh kebab to me (one of my favourites, they’re delicious).

[Ben Saunders]

The kebab in Polymorph always just looked like some sausages and a bit of lettuce to me, I honestly never made the connection that that was supposed to look like a kebab. All these years I thought the Polymorph became a sausage.

[Seb Patrick]

I’ve had both shami and seekh plenty of times, and they’re both lovely. But yes, what Lister has in the episode is far closer to the latter than the former.

[Pete Part Three]

Has anyone ever had a triple fried egg and chilli chutney sandwich? What about banana and crisp sandwichess?

Pot noodle? Dog Food? General food?

What did you have for lunch? I’m hungry.

[bloodteller]

I had a fried egg chilli chutney sandwich once. Can’t say I have tried the others though

I’ve also had sugar puff sandwiches a couple of times-they’re actually quite good, to be honest. You need some sort of lubricant to make sure the puffs don’t just fall out, though

[Dave]

Pot Noodles are ok, as long as you’re not expecting it to taste like real food.

They’re not a patch on Trout à la crème though.

[Lily]

I’ve always rather liked pot noodles.

Also the first time I went on a date in an Indian restaurant I had no idea what to order, so went with a chicken korma, bhindi bahji and tarka dhall as they were the only things I’d heard of.

[Ben Saunders]

I could never empathise with Lister’s distaste for Pot Noodle, and as a child it always sort of confused me in Demons & Angels when they acted as if a tasty Pot Noodle was some kind of miracle. There are lots of tasty Pot Noodles.

[tombow]

I don’t get it either, they’re exactly what Lister would like. It would make more sense if he hated a posh food like cous-cous or organic tofu.

[Hamish]

Not an actual “Pot Noodle” pot noodle, but some fancy Japanese instant ramen I ordered arrived just the other day. We will probably be having it on the weekend.

You can see LGR prepare something similar here:

[clem]

Ordering things in restaurants because I recognised them from TV comedy has gone well both times I’ve done it. I liked gazpacho very much, and I once got steak tartare because of that Mr Bean where he finds inventive ways to get rid of his, and that was really good as well.

[Flap Jack]

I believe that the recipes for Pot Noodle have changed a lot over the years, and in the era of classic Red Dwarf they were much worse. Pot Noodle’s crapness was memetic, kind of like a UK-specific variant of “What’s the deal with airline food?”.

[bloodteller]

> it always sort of confused me in Demons & Angels when they acted as if a tasty Pot Noodle was some kind of miracle

That’s the whole joke though. Lister is recounting all the crazy space adventures he’s had, all the amazing things he’s seen and done, and yet at the top of it all, the most incredible and eye-opening thing he’s experienced in 4 years of space adventuring, is….a rather nice Pot Noodle. Even if you like Pot Noodles, I think the scene still works because of how strongly and passionately they’re reacting to some cup noodles

[Ian Symes]

I have tried all the things mentioned in this thread, except the dog food. And I was recently reminded that the first time I ever met Cappsy was on stage at Dimension Jump in a competition to eat a bowl of cornflakes with raw onions as quickly as possible, hosted by Lee Cornes.

[Hamish]

In short, we need to contrive a means to make Symes eat dog food.

[Lily]

>I believe that the recipes for Pot Noodle have changed a lot over the years, and in the era of classic Red Dwarf they were much worse.

I’ll attest to the fact the taste has changed dramatically over the years, but in my opinion it’s the other way round. They used to taste great and are awful now. Your 80s pot noodle was packed to the brim with spoonfuls of salt, MSG, artificial colours and flavours and all other types of things that made them amazing. I guess however nostalgia could be making me biased, as they were the “treat” I’d be allowed every Saturday for lunch.

[Plastic Percy]

I’ve always wanted to try the sausage and onion gravy sandwich Lister eats in Timeslides, I discovered onion gravy a few years ago and it’s absolutely delicious.

Thinking about it, when was the first time we saw Lister eat curry on the show? I want to say it’s Waiting for God when he orders the chicken vindaloo for breakfast.

[bloodteller]

Oh yeah, sausage and onion gravy sandwiches are fucking amazing. But then again, most things with onion gravy are.

Onion gravy is excellent.

[gerrydelasel]

How did they get away with saying Pot Noodle’s were terrible? The BBC is famously reticent about mentioning brand names, let alone having a long running joke that singles out one particular product and calls it terrible. Did they sign an agreement with Golden Wonder, I wonder?

[Quinn: Clochebusters World Champion]

How did they get away with saying Pot Noodle’s were terrible? The BBC is famously reticent about mentioning brand names, let alone having a long running joke that singles out one particular product and calls it terrible. Did they sign an agreement with Golden Wonder, I wonder?

The BBC has to be fair and balanced, and on balance Pot Noodles are terrible 

But in a serious note, it’s not that they *can’t* mention brand names, but they have to demonstrate a lack of favouritism. I can’t remember the exact rules but if other brands are mentioned in other programs (maybe in the same time slots etc) then they’re fine to. 

They do tend to avoid it for simplicity but it doesn’t mean they can’t.

But also, Red Dwarf got away with a few Intellectual Property things that might raise an eyebrow. I think there was a bit of not asking permission and hoping no-one would notice, especially in the early days. 

[loadoftottnumb]

They had to take out the ‘Mc’ of Chicken Nuggets when saying they didn’t have much meat on them. 

[Dave]

The BBC was probably too busy dealing with the OFAH lawsuits from Reliant.

[Ben Saunders]

They had to take out the ‘Mc’ of Chicken Nuggets when saying they didn’t have much meat on them. 

Was this on broadcast or just for the DVD/VHS/whatever?

[Warbodog]

Was this on broadcast or just for the DVD/VHS/whatever?

It’s always claimed to have been censored since original broadcast, which I believe over the people with infullible memories who will sometimes insist they remember hearing that syllable in 1988 and aren’t getting confused with the uncensored Remastered.

[gerrydelasel]

It was definitely censored for the first re-run on TV because I remember noticing it as a kid, the way Rimmer’s mouth moves but the ‘Mc’ part was clipped off. I didn’t know this was the reason why until you just mentioned it!

[Ben Saunders]

Someone must have off-airs of the first broadcast. I have a repeat from ’96 somewhere but no memory one way or the other.

[Warbodog]

The Internet Archive only has the 1992 commercially released VHS, which is censored. The laugh track continues over the muted syllable, so it’s a proper edit and not something that was hastily censored later on.

[Ben Saunders]

If we can find episodes of The Daleks Master Plan, we can find the original TV edit of Kryten. Well, somebody else could, maybe.

[Technopeasant]

[International Debris]

In terms of Pot Noodle, it probably helps that the only time we see one, it’s a fake one.

…like the Toffee Crispy bar

But yeah, BBC programmes are allowed to mention real world products. I mean, Ian once got a whole article out of it. 

[gerrydelasel]

Obviously the BBC is allowed to reference real branded products, they goes without saying. But repeatedly calling one a bad product and making it the butt of a long running joke would be a recipe for a lawsuit today. I wonder if in the 1980s they just winged it, or did they do some kind of handshake with Golden Wonder.

[Warbodog]

It’s not that serious, it’s just jokes about a best-selling lazy fast food that people self-deprecatingly enjoy. It’s not like it’s a targeted malicious campaign.

[Flap Jack]

They can’t sue just for opinions. Including opinion makes it more legally defensible, if anything. It’s only defamation if you spread untrue facts.

So,

“Pot Noodles are disgusting garbage, I would personally rather eat a metric tonne of literal dog shit than take a single bite of Pot Noodle.” <- fine.

“Pot Noodles are disgusting because they’re made using ground up cockroaches.” <- not fine.

[Me Own Stunts]

It was definitely censored for the first re-run on TV because I remember noticing it as a kid, the way Rimmer’s mouth moves but the ‘Mc’ part was clipped off. I didn’t know this was the reason why until you just mentioned it!

[Me Own Stunts]

On the Bodysnatcher DVD commentary for Kryten, Ed Bye says something like they muted that syllable before broadcast because they assumed there would be a lawsuit if they didn’t, which sounds likely, but then he goes into some bollocks about actually if you say “chicken nuggets” then that’s the real one you can be sued for, which is why they changed it back to “chicken mcnuggets” for the remastered version.   

An absolute globule of arse. 

They are correct though that the remastered ending for Polymorph was shiter than the original, so swings and roundabouts.

[International Debris]

Obviously the BBC is allowed to reference real branded products, they goes without saying. But repeatedly calling one a bad product and making it the butt of a long running joke would be a recipe for a lawsuit today.

I think that says more about today than anything, if it’s true. Some products, services and people were repeatedly ripped to shreds by comedy, it’s just something that happened.

[Me Own Stunts]

[gerrydelasel]

Chef’s kiss for the clip choice!

[tombow]

I used to wonder about Ali G saying that Reeboks were crap… I always thought Rebook would crush Channel 4 or the 11 o Clock show if they ever knew

[Quinn: Clochebusters World Champion]

Obviously the BBC is allowed to reference real branded products, they goes without saying. But repeatedly calling one a bad product and making it the butt of a long running joke would be a recipe for a lawsuit today. I wonder if in the 1980s they just winged it, or did they do some kind of handshake with Golden Wonder.

It was mentioned twice in two years. Hardly repeatedly and long running. 

Pot Noodle could try and bring a lawsuit (I’m not sure why they would) and be laughed out of court. People make jokes at the expense of people, company, things all the time. Something is always the butt of the gag and very rarely is anyone ever upset enough to sue over it. And if they did the wouldn’t have any grounds. 

[Technopeasant]

 “Pot Noodles are disgusting because they’re made using ground up cockroaches.” <- not fine.

Given the nutritional deficiency of instant noodles, aside from the collosal sodium content, is a lack of protein (hence why true connoisseurs add pork, egg, or nuts) it might be an improvement.

[Warbodog]

I remember feeling offended as a 10 year old when Alexei Sayle explained that Coca-Cola originally contained cocaine, but now included “much worse stuff than that,” and it got a laugh. But I drank Coke constantly and it was lovely, shut up! It was around the time I had four teeth taken out.

[Ben Saunders]

If your teeth rot because of fizzy drinks that’s a skill issue I’m afraid

[Me Own Stunts]

No:  fort eeth.  Eeth for fort.

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