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Scroll to bottom Creator Topic February 11, 2008 at 10:35 am #2170 thomasaevansParticipant Best film Atonement Best British film This is England Leading actor Daniel Day-Lewis – There Will Be Blood Leading actress Marion Cotillard – La Vie En Rose Supporting actor Javier Bardem – No Country For Old Men Supporting actress Tilda Swinton – Michael Clayton Director No Country For Old Men – Joel Coen, Ethan Coen Original screenplay Juno – Diablo Cody Adapted screenplay The Diving Bell and the Butterfly – Ronald Harwood Film not in the English language The Lives of Others Animated film Ratatouille Carl Foreman award for special achievement by a British director, writer or producer in their first feature film Matt Greenhalgh (writer) – Control Music Winner: La Vie En Rose – Christopher Gunning Cinematography No Country For Old Men – Roger Deakins Editing The Bourne Ultimatum – Christopher Rouse Production design Atonement – Sarah Greenwood, Katie Spencer Costume design La Vie En Rose – Marit Allen Sound The Bourne Ultimatum – Kirk Francis, Scott Millan, Dave Parker, Karen Baker Landers, Per Hallberg Special visual effects The Golden Compass – Michael Fink, Bill Westenhofer, Ben Morris, Trevor Wood Make-up and hair La Vie En Rose – Jan Archibald, Didier Lavergne Short animation The Pearce Sisters – Jo Allen, Luis Cook Short film Dog Altogether – Diarmid Scrimshaw, Paddy Considine The Orange Rising Star award (voted for by the public) Shia LaBeouf Academy Fellowship Sir Anthony Hopkins Outstanding British contribution to cinema Barry Wilkinson Creator Topic Viewing 22 replies - 1 through 22 (of 22 total) Author Replies February 11, 2008 at 10:37 am #120297 Pete Part ThreeParticipant Lovely stuff. February 11, 2008 at 10:37 am #120298 thomasaevansParticipant Now…. Still dont get the Best Film/Best British Film thing… It never has made any sense. But both my TOP choices. The Golden COmpass for Special Effects??? WHAT? Pirates was an outstanding achievment! Tom Wilkinson deserved best supporting actor. Hands down. And the Atonement score is superb! WHY NO AWARD? Generally though, most I agree with. Highlight of the night… the numerous reactions of Jeff Goldblum! Legend. February 11, 2008 at 10:47 am #120300 JamesParticipant Because its not voted by the public, its voted by the industry? February 11, 2008 at 10:58 am #120303 TheLeenParticipant > Shia LaBeouf This was voted by the public, and all I can say is… ARRRRRRRRRRRGH February 11, 2008 at 11:39 am #120306 thomasaevansParticipant James… I know that. Bafta? Clue is in the title. What I mean is they’re both british films. I dont get how that works. It’s been commented on alot of websites. February 11, 2008 at 12:27 pm #120309 AndrewParticipant > > Shia LaBeouf > This was voted by the public, and all I can say is? ARRRRRRRRRRRGH The Shia backlash totally baffles me. He’s a likable, talented performer, he’s got really decent comic timing, and there’s no doubt his star was on the rise this year. Surely that qualifies him for the award that he got? As to differentiating between ‘Best Film’ and ‘Best British Film’, it’s always bothered me – the issue being that his ghettoises ‘British’ as being ‘not good enough to compete for the top prize’. But you reconcile that with the fact that it’s BAFTA – it’s there to promote the British film arts, and it wants to make sure there’s a guaranteed prize for the are they’re trying to encourage. But this year – we have Brit films winning both categories. How does the winner of one not with both? And the way we reconcile THAT is to say that one is the favourite overall film, but the British winner specifically embodies something about ‘British cinema’. The joke being that, in other years, Atonement – a costume drama – would have been said to have those values. February 11, 2008 at 12:40 pm #120310 TheLeenParticipant > The Shia backlash totally baffles me. He?s a likable, Well, that’s your opinion – I think he’s a jerk. > talented performer, I’m not convinced. > he?s got really decent comic timing, Never thought about it, I’ll have to see about that some time. Up to now, I think as an actor he’s… mediocre, but I’d already decided to wait for Indy 4 before final judgement. February 11, 2008 at 1:54 pm #120312 Pete Part ThreeParticipant You’ve got to admit; the guys got range. February 11, 2008 at 2:24 pm #120314 pennyParticipant Heheheheheheeeehehe! Anyway, I kind like the guy….or maybe it was just Transformers….mmmmmm….Nar, I like both. February 11, 2008 at 2:41 pm #120315 AndrewParticipant > Well, that?s your opinion – I think he?s a jerk. Okay, you can’t just leave that hanging! What’s that based on? Do you mean on-screen or off-screen? Because ‘jerk’ suggests this is about ‘the guy’ rather than ‘the work’. (In the same way that Sean Connery’s a jerk, but he’s also an Oscar winning legend.) A lot of the backlash seems to be because he got famous fast while being, generally, wisecracking and young? I get why that irritates people, but it doesn’t bug me at all. If based on the work, what’s the problem? If it’s just a taste thing, fair enough – though ‘irritating’, ‘wooden’ or ‘unlikable’ would seem more appropriate than a personal slight like ‘jerk’ if that’s the case. (I used to find Clive Owen flat and uninspiring as an actor, then one day I just kinda…tuned into what he was doing, and now I really enjoy watching him.) I found Shia really accessible and tonally spot-on in Bay’s Transformers flick. Plus he was fab in Holes, which is one of the best kids movies ever. But if it’s just a taste thing, fair enough – just wondering what sparks a negative reaction rather than an average/indifferent one? February 11, 2008 at 3:02 pm #120318 pennyParticipant I my god! I completely forgot he was in Holes…good film! The whole story line reminded me of a drama series called the Slave Story (I think) about the journey of a boy taken from Africa to be a slave in America, after a few years he ends up working on a big farm and then finally legit it way…don’t know what happened next as I couldn’t find the rest of the series, but I imaged that maybe that could have been a way it could have ended. Sigourney Weaver was good in that as the bad guy. It’s was a great change for her I think. It’s another film like The Goonies where the kids just come together to find the treasure…sticks in your mind. February 11, 2008 at 3:07 pm #120319 BazParticipant Saoirse Ronan should have got best supporting actress. Ah well, even though it wasn’t an “effects” film, it still helps Mike having Atonement on his CV even more now. Ho for the Oscars! February 11, 2008 at 3:20 pm #120320 TheLeenParticipant > Do you mean on-screen or off-screen? Because ?jerk? suggests this is about ?the guy? rather than ?the work?. (In the same way that Sean Connery?s a jerk, but he?s also an Oscar winning legend.) Yes, I mean from interviews. Maybe it’s only the impression *I* got, but to me he comes across as an arrogant, full of himself prick. Certainly not likable. His on-screen performance… well, most things with him I haven’t seen, but what I have (including Transformers) just didn’t impress me. So, in the context of “the big screen”, not good, not bad, mediocre. :\ February 11, 2008 at 4:11 pm #120323 pfmParticipant > The Golden COmpass for Special Effects??? WHAT? Pirates was an outstanding achievment! I’m guessing Compass had more British involvement so they favoured it. Pirates probably won last time anyway (and so they should have, if only for the amazing Davey Jones) February 11, 2008 at 5:18 pm #120331 AndrewParticipant > Certainly not likable. I meant on-screen, when acting. As an accessible performer with whom an audience can identify and empathatise. It’s rare, if ever, that you’ll see me comment about ‘the person’ rather than their work. February 11, 2008 at 5:33 pm #120335 Seb PatrickKeymaster I’ve not seen Shia in much (amusingly, he was the yellow kid in an X-Files Rachel showed me a little while back), but given how much of a slap-in-the-face his character (as written/adapted) was in Constantine, he himself was remarkably un-annoying in it. From what I know of him, though, he strikes me as pretty good casting for what I know of the role in Indy IV… February 11, 2008 at 6:56 pm #120349 ChrisMParticipant I quite liked transformers mainly for the big robots and effects. (Sad I know. The story actually wasn’t too bad but there was some major cheese in there.) I found the Shia La Beouf character irritating though. That not to say that he was poorly acted, in fact his acting was pretty good. I just didn’t like the character much. I haven’t seen Shia in much else that I remember, so it’s probably not fair to judge him until I do. (I’ve seen Constantine, but I didn’t know the actor and just didn’t recognize him.) From the interviews I saw on the transformers DVD, I admit my reaction was kind of like Marleen’s. Not that he was particularly nasty, but you know how some people can just rub you up the wrong way? To be fair that may be a fault with me rather than him though. Oh funny thing (well not that funny) when I first saw his name advertised in connection with Transformers I thought it was female. I thought it was the name of the actress who played the hot girl. February 11, 2008 at 7:01 pm #120351 DaveParticipant I haven’t seen Transformers, I’ve only seen Shia in a kids show. Not an amazing piece of television, but it was clearly constructed around his comic abilities. He’s funny. February 11, 2008 at 9:00 pm #120361 Pete Part ThreeParticipant I think you’re referring to Even Stevens. I always found him slightly annoying in this; over-playing his lines in much the same way he does in Transformers. Haven’t seen any of his other stuff, mind. February 12, 2008 at 12:07 am #120363 pfmParticipant People should relax about his involvement in Indy 4. Spielberg can direct. February 12, 2008 at 1:52 am #120366 Mr FlibbleParticipant Can I just point out that Juno is great? February 12, 2008 at 1:39 pm #120379 Seb PatrickKeymaster Please do, because it is. Author Replies Viewing 22 replies - 1 through 22 (of 22 total) Scroll to top • Scroll to Recent Forum Posts You must be logged in to reply to this topic. 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