Doctor Who and the Lack of Fatal Spoilers

[Seb Patrick]

Right, so this thread (also known as “The Ian Symes Memorial Thread”) is for talking about Doctor Who – “classic” series or new – but without spoilers. Our rule here is that if it’s been broadcast, OR it’s been in official publicity (e.g. BBC website, Radio Times), then you can discuss it here. Anything else, and you need to take it to the other thread.

Just before we shut down the old thread, Phil1034 was asking :

Just curious anyone going to ‘Novelcon’ at The Lass O’Gowrie in Manchester on Sunday?

http://www.kasterborous.com/news.asp?ac=8&id=2898

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[hummingbird]

> also known as ?The Ian Symes Memorial Thread?

Ian Symes is dead?

[JamesTC]

>Ian Symes is dead?

He died peacefully in his jeep.

[Ben Paddon]

Not like everyone else in the car who were shouting and screaming for dear life.

[si]

Because Ian says it’s okay.

[Dave]

I hate it

[JamesTC]

‘Planet of the Daleks’ episode 3 in colour = brilliant.

[Jo]

si / Tue, 2009-10-06 08:43 / #

Because Ian says it?s okay.

What the fuck is that monstrosity?

DO NOT WANT!

[Tarka Dal]

It’s very ruthless and to the point, it’s also very retro. No bells and whistles at all. Is that a sign of the Moffat reign to come? Hope so.

[Danny Stephenson]

It?s very ruthless and to the point, it?s also very retro.

I have to agree with Karl here, it does have that ‘old-school’ look about it, and from what i’ve seen of the photos and such it does look as if they’re aiming for a more nostalgic look to Doctor Who…

I’m not liking the DW Tardis thingy, it’s not completely terrible. But I hope that THAT picture we’ve got there is not the logo, seems too crowded. I do agree with the idea of using it for book spines and the DVDs and such stuff though, that would work well.

I have to point out that these are not the opinions of a die hard fan, more of a casual outsider, peering in every now and then seeing what’s buzzing around. I’m not a massive fan of Doctor Who, I don’t hate it but I know that i’d just get sucked in if I did start watching it properly…

[Somebody]

Given that it has no fewer than two lens flares (and a couple of other spotlights that don’t quite flare out in the static version, but may do so when animated), I’m not sure you can call it entirely bells & whistles-free.

It DOES make me wonder about the Moffat-era theme tune though. Presuming they keep some variation of the traditional theme, there IS a lot of room to strip things back, even if they don’t exactly take it back to the very base.

[Nick R]

SFX has an alternative version with “the logo” and “the insignia” combined together.

I like it.

[ChrisM]

Den of Geek have done a video compilation of the previous logos. Obviously we can find them easily enough but it’s nice for comparative purposes.

[Seb Patrick]

>Den of Geek have done a video compilation of the previous logos

Or, rather, DoG have posted someone else’s compilation ;-)

Anyway, I had speculated about the possibility of the text being done on one line in some form, so this is unsurprising. Looks nice, too. I like the idea of the elements being able to be combined in different ways – but I still hope the “main” logo is the text-on-top-of-one-another variant.

I can sort of imagine the insignia swooping into the text in the title sequence, though…

[The PerformingMonkey]

The insignia will spin into view then unravel into the title.

[Phil1034]

What are people’s favourite logos of old? Personally I’ve always been rather fond of McCoy’s. Yeah I said it.

[hummingbird]

Tom Baker’s.

[Ben Paddon]

Get out.

[Dave]

>Personally I?ve always been rather fond of McCoy?s. Yeah I said it.

Me too, I think it gets an unnecessarily bad rap. I don’t like the Season 18 to 23 ‘neon’ one.

[Ben Paddon]

McCoy’s logo is far too 80s for my liking. Personally I like the Pertwee/McGann logo rather a lot.

[JamesTC]

Pertwee and McGann for me, simple but effective. Though I like both the 80s ones too.

[Phil1034]

See I don’t think of McCoy’s logo as 80s, rather 90s. To me whenever I see it I always think of the New Adventures novels first. Always thought it was weird how long Virgin held on to it, while most BBC products used the coloured-in diamond- very inconsistent branding.

[The PerformingMonkey]

> very inconsistent branding.

You are Alan Partridge.

[Seb Patrick]

I like the McCoy one, too. And yeah, I don’t think it’s very “80s”. The neon tubing one is far more so.

[Dave]

I’ve seen it referred to as the Kellogg’s logo, although quite accurate isn’t meant to be complimentary.

[Jonathan Capps]

McCoy’s logo is an abomination.

[Dave]

The Special Weapons Dalek is an abomination.

[Jonathan Capps]

What’s more, the Abomination is insane.

[si]

I liked McCoy’s logo, because he was my Doctor (I was 8-10 years old when he was on), and that’s what I remember.

[JamesTC]

>The Special Weapons Dalek is an abomination.

No.

[Dave]

>No.

I’ll rephrase:

The Special Weapons Dalek is the Abomination.

[JamesTC]

Barry Letts, the producer of Who from 1970-1975 and 1981 who also cast the Third and Fourth Doctor sadly passed away.
Doctor Who has lost one of the most influential men in the show’s 46 year history, he will be missed dearly.

RIP Barry.

[si]

Aaww. RIP.

[Squeaky Gibson]

very sad news, I hope the do a dedication to him at the end of ‘The Water of Mars’, that would be nice touch.

[Phil1034]

We all raised a glass for Barry Letts at Novelcon and Paul Magrs read from his Third Doctor Novel.

Also just one of many interesting facts I discovered today: Paul Cornell doesn’t think Moff ripped off Benny when creating River Song, beyond their profession he fails to see the comparison.

[JamesTC]

Anyone watched the latest SJA? Jolly good fun I thought, a great improvement on the last series (which was a great imnprovement on the previous which I switched after the Slitheen episode). I especially liked the Judoon staying within the speed limit and then pulling a gun on the guy playing loud music.

[si]

Recorded it. I always forget it’s on, so I’ll watch it when I’ve recorded them all.

[JamesTC]

Or you could watch it on Iplayer.

[Ben Paddon]

Or at a pinch, we could watch it on iPlayer.

[si]

Ah, but I like to *own* them. But I don’t want to buy them.

[JamesTC]

Well SJA are very cheap, about ?13 for the set. Saying that I still don’t own either series.
I am considering buying the complete set of Torchwood though, the big boxset is going for as little as ?40 which is pretty good for 13 or 14 discs.

[JamesTC]

Was that the Zodin getting a mention in SJA from today, as in the terrible Zodin mentioned by the Brig, the Second Doctor, Peri and the Sixth Doctor but never seen?

[JamesTC]

That episode of SJA that aired today was just bloody brilliant, never thought SJA could be that well written and entertaining.

[si]

Not watched it yet, although I now have two full two-episode stories, something I’ve never acheived so far with SJA. I’ll just about forget next week, when it really matters.

[Dave]

We gave up on this just when I thought we’d need it the most.

[Seb Patrick]

It’s because everyone but Ian actually WANTS spoilers.

[Ian Symes]

It’s also because you spazzes are posting all the actual non-spoilery discussion in the spoiler thread.

[JamesTC]

If you read the spoiler topic then what is the point in this one?

[Ian Symes]

There doesn’t seem to be much point at the moment, you’re right. I think we should have more clearly defined what exactly should have been kept out of this thread – things like the title of the Christmas special are fine; they’ve been officially announced and so we’re supposed to know them at this stage. It’s only things that the production don’t want me to know that I object to seeing in advance – paparazzi pics and snatches of overheard dialogue and the like. Not that I haven’t seen almost of these anyway.

[Dave]

[Tarka Dal]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00pgv4j/Never_Mind_the_Buzzcocks_Series_23_The_Doctor_Who_Special/

Did anybody watch this? It’s worth it just for Bernand Cribbins.

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