Exploder 8.0 beta.

[James]

Just playing with the new version, and it’s not compatable with G&T! You have to use compatablity mode for it to use the go “Go to bottom of thread” link, and also some of the text gets overlapped. Yeah I know it’s my fault for downloading it! And yes better browsers available, Just thought you might like to know.

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[Danny Stephenson]

There’s a “Go to Bottom of thread” link?

[pfm]

It’s like they’re determined to make you angry at them. ‘You experienced Vista. You thought we couldn’t annoy you anymore? You thought wrong. This is IE8.’

OK, there IS a decent feature. Even though it seems they’re desperate to find something to ‘improve’ for no reason. –

It can be difficult to keep track of many tabs at once. Internet Explorer 8 introduces Tab Groups, which make tabbed browsing easier. When one tab is opened from another, the new tab is placed next to the originating tab and color coded, so that you can quickly discern which tabs have related content. If you close a tab that’s part of a group, another tab from the same group is displayed, enabling you to remain within the context of the current task rather than suddenly looking at an unrelated site.

By right-clicking on any tab, you can close the tab, close the tab group, or remove the tab from a group. From the same menu, you can refresh one or all tabs, open a new tab, reopen the last tab closed, or see a list of all recently closed tabs and reopen any or all of them.

By the time you’ve thought about whether you want to close an individual tab, a tab group, or whether you’d consider removing the tab from that group and merging it with another, you’ve probably already closed the browser completely and had a little cry.

[ChrisM]

Firefox for me!

It’s pretty decent. I had some annoying problems with a Megaclick infection (from a link I was directed to here actually…. not that I’m blaming anyone, my fault for clicking the wrong thing.) It would wait a while the redirrect me to a blank page and an error. GRRRR! Uninstall didn’t work. Deleting related cookies in Firefox only worked temporarily. Even deleting related tags from regedit didn’t work.

In the end the resolution turned out to be rather simple: there is a separate uninstall option in Firefox itself (to be fair the windows uninstall should have taken care of than… maybe it would if I’d used their own IE browser.) So far no more problems… So far…

I prefer to keep away from IE if I can help it though. I’ve had other problems with that in the past. (And I’m not really a Microsoft fan. Gotta admit the reduced price on the Xbox 360 tickled my fancy though. Not that I can afford one either.)

[Jonathan Capps]

Ooh, downloading now.

If nothing else, though, Microsoft *have* finally realised that properly rendering to modern CSS standards is important. They were reporting it as passing the ACID2 test ages ago.

Still, as my dear grandma always says, never underestimate the ability IE has to be rancid balls on a stick.

[Jonathan Capps]

Also, I’ve always liked to call it Internet Exploiter. Heh.

[Kevin G]

Thank goodness IE 8 is finally supporting the CSS tables everyone else has been supporting forever. I’ve been waiting ages for those to become relevant.

…Though, that still won’t entirely happen until IE 8 is widely adopted, and IE 6 (which doesn’t even support PNG alpha transparency) still has a significant userbase, due to Vista being such a flop. And at the same time that Microsoft is coming out with its Acid2 passing browser, Firefox should be releasing a browser passing the Acid3 test (on which IE gets by far the lowest score of any modern browser, even in IE 8).

It really sucks that Microsoft has to be dragged kicking and screaming to support all the standards that everyone else has been supporting forever.

[Jonathan Capps]

> Firefox should be releasing a browser passing the Acid3 test

To be fair, it’s only just released one that passes Acid2!

And, Jesus Christ, why does it have the same layout at 7? It’s ASS.

[Jonathan Capps]

I’m getting a lot of messages promting me to run sites in compaitbility mode. And NTS is mildly broken, too.

Now, either IE8 is so UBER up-to-scratch with it’s radical standard compliance that it’s exposing site’s design shortfalls or… or well, it’s a bit broken.

[John Hoare]

Hmmm. It confuses me that G&T/NTS is broken in IE8. They work in Firefox, Opera, Safari. Still, as Cappsy says, it doesn’t mean that it definitely isn’t my fault!

Will sit down with Capps and have a play.

[Pete Part Three]

Can you take a look at IE8 when you’ve finished?

[John Hoare]

No.

[Jonathan Capps]

Turns out NTS *isn’t* broken. It just was the last time I looked (and after loads of refreshes). IE8, there.

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