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  • #10850
    Jo
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    …or Boobs & Dragons to give it it’s correct name ;)
    So who watched it and what did you think?

    Also… one of the men in the cage – Liam Neeson or not? I spotted him straight away and thought it was, but the internet seems divided on whether it’s him or not since it’s been neither confirmed nor denied by the GoT/B&D people.

    #112600
    ChrisM
    Participant

    I haven’t seen it yet, (I don’t think I get that channel) but I’ve read the books, which are great!

    #112602
    peas_and_corn
    Participant

    The show is made of awesome. I’m a little behind right now (ep 6), but really enjoying it. I’ve read the books as well, looking forward to Dances with Dragons!

    #112603

    I don’t have that fancy-pants cable teevee, but I’ve read the books–in fact, for my birthday a few days ago, I got a box set of all the published series so far and a pre-order for A Dance with Dragons. I don’t think it’s spoiling anything to say that it really only gets more awesome from here.

    Favorite characters, anyone? I think mine’s Tyrion–he’s a bit, not much but a bit, like a smaller Edmund Blackadder. Arya and Danaerys are also pretty super.

    #112604
    JEZZMUND
    Participant

    Thanks to teh interwebs – i’m watching ’em right now, Ep 3.
    Must agree – they are pretty bloody good.
    I’ve never read any of the books though – they’re on a definite ‘to read’ list…

    on a similar thread – anyone seen of of that Camelot yet?
    if so – any good?

    #112605
    Jonathan Capps
    Keymaster

    I absolutely love this show. Every single storyline is interesting in its own way, and it’s done a brilliant job of setting up future story lines, creating a palpable interest in and fear of what’s north of the wall. MILD SEASON 1 SPOILERS: It’s gradually growing into the more fantastical elements at its disposal after a first series which almost entirely dealt with humans and human issues. Now, we see things like the White Walkers, Dragons and magic being faced head on, all of which are clearly a threat to the empire that’s been built up by eradicating or hiding from those things. EXCITING.

    #112606
    Jonathan Capps
    Keymaster

    Apparently season 2 is going to be spring 2012. ABOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. With a wait like that, I hope I have the mental strength to only read book 1 and not just power through the rest and ruin the TV series for myself. I’m sure I will.

    #112608
    ChrisM
    Participant

    on a similar thread – anyone seen of of that Camelot yet?
    if so – any good?

    I’m watching the Channel 4 run, and so far, yes, it’s pretty decent.

    I’m not too keen on the Arthur Guinevere thread but the rest is great. I like that Morgan* isn’t just a one dimensional sorceress type character. I.e. she’s responsible for some atrocious things but she has complex emotions (including remorse for certain acts) and understandable motivations.

    *Possibly spelt ‘Morgian’.

    #112617
    performingmonkey
    Participant

    Eva Greene gets her kit off. More do you want what???

    #112618
    Dave
    Participant

    >Eva Greene gets her kit off. More do you want what???

    Eva Greene to fold her clothes neatly in a pile, triumphantly look around, feel a bit silly and then put them back on.

    #112512
    Jo
    Participant

    Awesome Boobs & Dragons rumour alert!

    http://blastr.com/2011/06/rumor-of-the-day-game-of.php

    #112511
    performingmonkey
    Participant

    I’ve just started reading Clash of Kings (the 2nd book) and I must admit I immediately thought of Eccleston for Stannis Baratheon on reading Martin’s description of him. Especially his face…somehow it just fits.

    What does everyone think of the possible Liam Neeson cameo in last week’s finale? He’s in the moving cage around 40mins into the episode…

    #112625
    Jo
    Participant

    Also… one of the men in the cage – Liam Neeson or not? I spotted him straight away and thought it was, but the internet seems divided on whether it’s him or not since it’s been neither confirmed nor denied by the GoT/B&D people.

    What does everyone think of the possible Liam Neeson cameo in last week’s finale? He’s in the moving cage around 40mins into the episode…

    Has it been confirmed as Neeson then?

    #112626
    Jo
    Participant

    I’m of the opinion that it’s him, but as far as I’m aware it’s not been confirmed either way.
    (Screengrabs from http://www.funnyjunk.com)
    http://static.fjcdn.com/large/pictures/97/a5/97a57e_2256730.jpg
    http://static3.fjcdn.com/comments/6c/78/6c78f7e555e81ec7eeff38c945a9487d.jpg

    (Images too large to post here)

    #112627
    peas_and_corn
    Participant

    Him being Stannis makes more sense than playing Greyjoy.

    #112629

    Y’know, I wasn’t initially in favor of it, but the more I see Chris Eccleston recommended for the role of Stannis, the more I can get behind it. He has a fine scowly-face, which is absolutely vital for Stannis.

    But what about Melisandre? And Davos Seaworth, come to that. He’s kind of cool.

    I can’t really think of anyone for the Greyjoys, except to suggest that they look for people skilled at playing awful, horrible, eminently punchable people, just as they are in the books. (I think Theon’s not quite as bad as Joffrey, but it’s a close thing.)

    #111759
    ChrisM
    Participant

    >But what about Melisandre?

    http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-znMA4Fdth34/TZyo2-3VX1I/AAAAAAAACyw/V31jiEcJLYM/s400/catherine_tate_2009.jpg

    Just kidding.

    Certainly fits the first word in the show’s new name though! Phwoar!

    #112630

    >link

    Ah. So she can proclaim, at the end of the scene in the beginning of Clash of Kings with the failed attempt on her life, just how much she’s not bovvered by poison?

    …God, that was awful. I’ll just show myself out.

    #112631
    Jonathan Capps
    Keymaster

    Started the first book yesterday. I’m slightly disturbed at how everyone is about 10 years younger than in the TV show. It has some… disturbing side effects.

    #112632

    Yeah. According to things I’ve read on the interbuttz, the characters started out so young because George R. R. Martin intended to include a time skip of a few years, in order for the lil’ badasses like Arya and Danaerys to sort of grow into their awesomeness. But when he tried to actually write that, he couldn’t make it work–which is why their TV counterparts are older: ‘cos he kind of regrets making them so young in the first place. At least, that’s what I’ve heard…

    #112633
    Jonathan Capps
    Keymaster

    Seems to make sense. I’m yet to work out how in the hell the age difference between Cersei and Joffrey works in the book because I’ve just got a passing mention of both of their ages and it just does *not* add up.

    #112634
    Jonathan Capps
    Keymaster

    In fact, I’ve just checked. During the Banquet for the King in Winterfell, Jon’s observing everyone and Queen Cersei is described as 14 and Joffrey, her son, 12. Am I being monumentally thick, here?

    #112635

    What? I don’t think he ever says anything about Cersei’s age, but she’s definitely older than that. F’rex, she was married off to Robert Baratheon not long after the whole brouhaha with getting rid of the Targaryens (I don’t think it’s spoiling anything to tell you that in book 3, A Clash of Kings, she’s supposed to be I think fifteen when that happens), and that was nearly twenty years before the events in Game of Thrones.

    Joffrey’s around twelve, though. And quite the little shit for his age, too. He’s downright precocious in his shititude.

    #112636

    Jon himself is about fourteen, though, if I recall correctly, and I think Robb’s about the same age. That might be where you got confused, there.

    #112637
    Jonathan Capps
    Keymaster

    Ah. Yes. I blame the wording, but the age of 14 is mentioned but looking back that *is* referring to Jon and not Cersei. Boh.

    #112698

    I just got A Dance with Dragons today. I suppose ways exist to make me happier than I am right now, but I bet they all involve mood-altering substances.

    Also! The very first chapter is a Tyrion chapter.

    Joy.

    #112701
    Jonathan Capps
    Keymaster

    NO SPOILERS EVEN KNOWING TYRION IS ALIVE IN THE FIFTH BOOK IS A SPOILER THANK YOU.

    #112702

    I apologize; feel free to delete or edit it somehow.

    I just thought it was good to find out–just like some people will doubtless be pleased to find out about the explicit sex scene between Hodor and Sirius Black, presided over by a strange new character named “Jorge Q. Q. Blartin”…

    #112704
    Jonathan Capps
    Keymaster

    It’s ok, it was more fake rage than anything. I’m happy he’s still around!

    #112706
    Danny Stephenson
    Keymaster

    fake rage

    We do that a lot around here, dont’ we? We need a name for this. I suggest ‘Fage’…

    #112707
    performingmonkey
    Participant

    In the middle of Clash of Kings and I really don’t want spoilers but the above one will do. If everyone else was dead and that one character still alive I would be happy!

    Regarding the characters’ ages…not sure about the books but Martin said if it wasn’t for the sex and nudity they would have cast Danaerys younger, an 18-year-old actress playing her as 14 as opposed to whatever (the amazing) Emilia Clarke is.

    When I was reading Game of Thrones I thought of them as seeming older anyway. Who’s to say a year in their time equates to a year in ours?

    #112709
    Ben Paddon
    Participant

    ‘Frage’ is better.

    #112710
    ChrisM
    Participant

    When I was reading Game of Thrones I thought of them as seeming older anyway. Who’s to say a year in their time equates to a year in ours?

    I think it does. It’s just they’re forced to mentally grow up quicker due to their environment.

    Concerning Daenerys, in many societies of the past, (ancient times, up until the middle ages*, I believe, the culture of these stories) a girl was considered a woman once she had reached puberty.

    I can’t help wondering how many deaths and complications there were in pregnancies just due to the fact the poor girl’s body still immature. And that’s not even taking into account medieval health care. I’m glad we’ve grown beyond that, and that kids (both male and female) are mostly allowed to remain kids for longer.

    I think ageing her for the film was a good idea.

    *I’m aware that’s a broad time period, which makes it all the more shocking…

    #112711

    It’s ok, it was more fake rage than anything. I’m happy he’s still around!

    Okey-dokey! I blame the limitations of text-based communication online; when I’m not sure of the nuances of a statement, I err on the side of trying not to be an asshole. (Occasionally I even succeed!)

    And I’m every bit as glad as you that Tyrion’s still around. He really is just the awesomest. (I read somewhere that he’s one of the author’s favorites, too. It kind of shows, but not in a bad way.) I don’t think it would be spoiling to say that Jaime has his cool moments as well, but I still think Tyrion’s the best by miles.

    A question: Do we have spoiler tags somewhere, and they’re just not listed with the others, or is that something only you fine folks who run the place get to use?

    #112713
    Jo
    Participant

    Jaime… really? The man who tried to kill a child for witnessing him shagging his own sister? :o/ Granted, I’ve not read the books, but I’m not really sure that you can really redeem yourself after that.

    Based on the TV series (though I do intend to read the books), my opinion is that all the Lannisters are cunts except for Tyrion who is awesome. I seriously cannot wait until someone punches Joffrey in the face. I’d happily watch a whole episode of just that.

    #112714
    ChrisM
    Participant

    >Jaime… really?

    Minor spoilers, so ignore if you like. I’ll leave a few lines.





    I’m not going to spoil much, but I’ll just say that in later books we get to see some of Jaime’s POV his thoughts and inner world, etc. While he has done some despicable things, he’s a lot more three dimensional than one might think.

    That doesn’t detract from what he did, of course. I went through much of the first couple of books finding the character despicable, but well… lets just say there’s more to him.

    #112718

    Jaime… really? The man who tried to kill a child for witnessing him shagging his own sister? :o/ Granted, I’ve not read the books, but I’m not really sure that you can really redeem yourself after that.

    I know–I was every bit as skeptical as you are about developing sympathy for a child-crippling sisterfucker, but the more you get into his head, the more you get to see the reasons why he does as he does, like ChrisM explained.

    For what it’s worth, (VERY MINOR SPOILERS AHEAD) he and Tyrion are pretty close. (Well, up to a point.)

    I seriously cannot wait until someone punches Joffrey in the face. I’d happily watch a whole episode of just that.

    Y’know, I think I have a couple of .gifs and .jpegs that would be right up your metaphorical alley, if you want me to post them for you =D .

    #112720
    Jo
    Participant

    Hmm… that’s gotta be some good writing to redeem Jaime. Look forward to seeing how it’s all explained!

    Y’know, I think I have a couple of .gifs and .jpegs that would be right up your metaphorical alley, if you want me to post them for you =D .

    YES PLZ!

    #112721
    ChrisM
    Participant

    >Hmm… that’s gotta be some good writing to redeem Jaime.

    I wouldn’t say it so much redeems him as… makes him easier to empathize with. (Not that we ever condone what he did to Bran.)

    For an example of his more complex nature in stuff you’ve likely already seen, look at his relationship with Tyrion (as mentioned by Arlene). Then compare with how the other Lanisters like Cersei and Joffrey treat Tyrion.

    #112722
    Jo
    Participant

    I wouldn’t say it so much redeems him as… makes him easier to empathize with. (Not that we ever condone what he did to Bran.)
    For an example of his more complex nature in stuff you’ve likely already seen, look at his relationship with Tyrion (as mentioned by Arlene). Then compare with how the other Lanisters like Cersei and Joffrey treat Tyrion.

    *shrugs* Even if the incestuous attempted child killer is nice to his brother, based on season 1 my opinion is that Jaime, Cersei, Tywin and Joffrey are all cunts. That *may* change when I read the books/see the next season, I can’t really say, but not being a prick to your sibling isn’t really exceptional behaviour, regardless of how the rest of the family acts.

    #112723

    Here, let me make everyone happy with a couple of scenes of Tyrion keeping his Imp hand strong on Joffrey’s head:

    http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g57/baramosnet/tyrionslap.gif

    http://oi56.tinypic.com/290r8m0.jpg

    Downright hypnotic, aren’t they?

    (It almost makes me feel bad for the actor playing Joff, though–you can kind of see him flinch just before the hand connects. By the end of the second season, that kid’s gonna have a permanent dent in his head in the shape of Peter Dinklage’s fist.)

    edit: Okay, so these are links instead of images because for some reason, these wouldn’t show up when I tried using the [img] tag.

    #112724
    Jonathan Capps
    Keymaster

    > edit: Okay, so these are links instead of images because for some reason, these wouldn’t show up when I tried using the [img] tag.

    Regarding this and spoiler tags, we don’t support those at the moment and you common, non-admin scum can’t use any HTML you like, but I’ll try hack something in for spoilery comments.

    #112725
    Jonathan Capps
    Keymaster

    Oh, excellent gifs, by the way! Yeah, I feel sorry for the actor – it can’t be easy to know that someone saw your face and thought you’d be perfect to play a horrible little shit cunt bag.

    #112726

    In the interest of full disclosure, it’s not like I made those .gifs or anything; I just saw them on another one of my favorite messageboards and decided that I really liked seeing Joffrey Baratheon getting backhanded over and over and over again.

    While on one level it must kind of suck to know that you’re widely considered to have the perfect face to convey total assholishness, in the business of acting that might be turned to your advantage–after all, there’ll always be a need for villains…

    edit: I almost forgot! Are any of you Game of Thrones nerds also Arrested Development nerds? If so, you guys might just go for Arrested Westeros. Some of these are pretty inspired, actually.

    #112727
    Jo
    Participant
    #112729
    ChrisM
    Participant

    but not being a prick to your sibling isn’t really exceptional behaviour, regardless of how the rest of the family acts.

    I totally agree. I was just providing an early indication there’s more to him that didn’t spoil anything, if that makes sense.

    I guess I’d also make a distinction between finding a character interesting and redeemable.

    I won’t say any more on it as I don’t want to get into spoiler territory. Keep watching/reading though, I’m sure you’ll enjoy the ride whether your opinions change on him or not.

    #112732
    Jonathan Capps
    Keymaster

    The soundtrack for season 1 is now on Spotify and it has considerably improved my day.

    Also, this is one for the experts out there, is the TV show definitely going to continue being called Game of Thrones, even though that’s just the subtitle for the first book? It’s only just occurred to me that the books are actually the A Song of Ice and Fire series.

    #112736
    Jo
    Participant

    I imagine that they’ll stick with Game of Thrones, so as not to confuse the simple people.

    #112734
    performingmonkey
    Participant

    Yep the show is called ‘Game of Thrones’. Technically that’s not even the first book’s title cause it misses out the ‘A’ :P

    #112735

    YOU GUYS YOU GUYS YOU GUYS

    THEY CAST STANNIS AND MELISANDRE

    AND BRIENNE OF TARTH AND MARGAERY TYRELL

    AND…well, I’m a teensy bit bummed it’s not Chris Eccleston, but NEVERTHELESS THIS IS PRETTY AWESOME NEWS GUYS

    WOOOOOOOOO

    #112733
    Jonathan Capps
    Keymaster

    Excellent. I wonder if they’re trying to save some money on the big stars from now on, since the show’s now fully established.

    #112738
    Jo
    Participant

    Arlene’s link led me to this: http://grrm.livejournal.com/ George R.R. Martin’s regularly updated Blog! I’ve not seen any on my quick scan through, but there may be spoilers within, so be careful!

    #112739
    peas_and_corn
    Participant

    He’s also known for writing really long posts.

    #112842
    Jonathan Capps
    Keymaster

    Ok, so I was intending to save reading the second book until I’d seen season 2, but… I failed. It was triggered by comments from one of the show’s Producers saying they’re going to be diverging more and more from the books, so it should be fresh enough to me anyway. Also, the second season is AGES away.

    So, a couple of chapters in, and my initial non-spoilery thoughts:

    • Joffrey is the BIGGEST SHIT
    • Sansa’s not boring me as much as the first book
    • Ayra’s still ace, obviously
    • Tyrion is obviously also ace, and I really like the story that’s been set up for him
    • I really hope Caitlin doesn’t bore the arse off me again
    • Very interesting overarching ‘thing’ set up right at the start of the book

    THAT IS ALL.

    #112844

    Clash of Kings is probably Tyrion Lannister’s finest hour in the series so far, and the book that cemented his place in my personal list of The Best Characters Ever. That said, a bit of warning, in as not-spoilery a way as I can possibly express it: I’m working through Storm of Swords, which comes after, and, well…Tywin Lannister is the biggest fucking asshole, is all I’ll say of it.

    For what it’s worth, however, in the second book Catelyn does actually go and do stuff. Also: You meet Stannis yet? He’s pretty assholish too, although not much more than about .6 Joffreys on the Song of Ice and Fire Assholishness Scale that is totally serious and which I really didn’t just now make up.

    #112847
    Jonathan Capps
    Keymaster

    Yeah, I’ve had a good dose of Stannis already. That story’s started out in a way I didn’t really expect, too. Looking forward to seeing what Dany’s up to.

    #112859
    ChrisM
    Participant

    New Game of Thrones RPG.:

    http://www.collegehumor.com/video/6579356/game-of-thrones-rpg

    Well… sort of.

    #112861
    Jonathan Capps
    Keymaster

    That’s excellent!

    There is a proper RPG that’s going to come out at some point, I think, after they’ve done the RTS. LOOKING FORWARD TO.

    #112876
    Ridley
    Participant

    #112917
    Jonathan Capps
    Keymaster

    Just to keep you updated, I’m now starting the fourth book. I can’t even believe I intended to stop at A Game of Thrones.

    I know there’s likely more to come, but I see now what Arlene and Chris meant about Jaime. In fact, he’s the perfect example of why I love GRRM’s character work – he’s been expanded and explained but his past actions are never forgotten in a way that devalues what’s gone before. I know it’s a cliché, but so many characters are different shades of grey; see also Sandor Clegane and, to a lesser extent, even Dany.

    I think so far the third book is my favourite of the ones I’ve read. It’s so bloody massive that every story has great room to breath and a LOT of shit goes down in very satisfying but mainly horrifying ways. The producers say that this book won’t be a single season and I can see why and I’m glad they’re not going to try and squeeze it too much and lose some important stuff.

    Oh, and Jon Snow is probably my favourite character at the moment. Arya runs him close, but I have a few small issues with her story in the third book that I can’t really go into without spoilering.

    #112910
    Ridley
    Participant

    Oh, and Jon Snow is probably my favourite character at the moment. Arya runs him close, but I have a few small issues with her story in the third book that I can’t really go into without spoilering.

    NO SPOILERS EVEN KNOWING TYRION IS ALIVE IN THE FIFTH BOOK IS A SPOILER THANK YOU.

    :'(

    #112911
    Jonathan Capps
    Keymaster

    For all you know, the storyline I didn’t like was Arya’s horrible death!

    #112912
    Ridley
    Participant

    I know I’m on the second book though. ;)

    #112913
    Jonathan Capps
    Keymaster

    It’s a fair cop.

    #112930

    And now I expect you see what I meant by Tywin Lannister being the biggest fucking asshole, right? I mean, I know Sansa’s kind of a twit (after all, she’s a teenager), but nevertheless…neither party in that arrangement deserved what happened to them. And that’s not even the most important one of its kind in the book!

    On the bright side, however, his final scene, with Tyrion–not to spoil things for others, but I suppose you could call it “gut-wrenching”, huh?

    #113336
    Jonathan Capps
    Keymaster

    First clips from season 2:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pE12H1HorUU

    Very impressed with Renly’s new look. They’ve managed to make him look the image of a young Robert. Also, I have a feeling I’m really not going to get on with Natalie Dormer’s face, but she definitely looks like a Tyrell.

    Excitement!

    #113337
    Jonathan Capps
    Keymaster

    Also, several months late (slightly spoilery)

    And now I expect you see what I meant by Tywin Lannister being the biggest fucking asshole, right?

    In all honestly, when it comes to his family I’ve not seen him do anything that’s *too* far removed from what any great Lord would do. I have more issues with how he conducts his wars :-S

    I mean, I know Sansa’s kind of a twit (after all, she’s a teenager), but nevertheless…neither party in that arrangement deserved what happened to them. And that’s not even the most important one of its kind in the book!

    Without wanting to utter any spoilers from the fifth book, let alone the second, as far as Sansa and Tyrion’s problems go, I’d say both of them are currently in worse positions.

    On the bright side, however, his final scene, with Tyrion—not to spoil things for others, but I suppose you could call it “gut-wrenching”, huh?

    Where *do* whores go?

    #113587
    Jonathan Capps
    Keymaster

    EXCITING:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBrsM_WlfV8&feature=youtu.be

    Dillane sounds like he’s going to be an excellent Stannis, but in my mind he still should look like Christopher Eccleston.

    #114673
    Jonathan Capps
    Keymaster

    I realise discussion of this had ground to a halt, but A PROPER TRAILER! EXCITING!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOzXsqoJhtE

    Varys and Tyrion are going to steal the show this year, clearly.

    #114675
    Bob Loblaw
    Participant

    That looks bloody fantastic. Although it will be strange putting new faces to characters. I’d always imagined Stannis as Christopher Eccleston, and from that decided Renly would be David Tennant. Even my imagination is lazy.

    #114676
    Jonathan Capps
    Keymaster

    In the first season, Renly was quite different from his descriptions in the book but from what we’ve seen of his new look, they’ve done a much better job of making him look like a young Robert.

    Stannis looks good to me, but that could be because I’d seen Stephen Dillane had been cast before I read the second book so it’s always been his face in my mind.

    #114704
    UncreativeUserName
    Participant

    Reading the first book after watching the pretty damn amazing series.
    Joffrey really is the most hatable fuck ever.

    #114720
    performingmonkey
    Participant

    It looks soooo good, doesn’t it??! Emilia Clarke may be a little old for book Daenerys but she’s pretty perfect all the same. And the girl they cast as Arya…just so right! All the cast are bang on really. Tyrion and Varys yeah…an immense double act! I also can’t wait for those Tyrion/Cersei scenes.

    Just read the first 200 pages of A Storm of Swords… it just gets better :D

    #114755
    Jonathan Capps
    Keymaster

    Oh man, Storm of Swords superb. I hope the rumours about them splitting it into two seasons (shot back-to-back) are true, because it’s the only way to do everything that happens in that book justice. Conversely, they could easily squeeze A Feast for Crows and Dance with Dragons into one season.

    #114756
    Jonathan Capps
    Keymaster

    By the way, anyone listened to the new Roy Dotrice audiobook for A Feast for Crows? It seems he’s plain forgotten most of his original voices…

    #114767
    performingmonkey
    Participant

    > Conversely, they could easily squeeze A Feast for Crows and Dance with Dragons into one season.

    Wow. I know they supposedly drag but…two massive books crammed into one season??

    Incidentally, I love how right this moment my life choices consist of – reading two more chapters of Storm of Swords or watching episodes 3 & 4 of Alcatraz. So, Bullseye on Challenge it is then… ;P

    #114769
    Jonathan Capps
    Keymaster

    > Wow. I know they supposedly drag but…two massive books crammed into one season??

    Well, that’s perhaps an exaggeration on my part. There’s tonnes of stuff I love in those books, but I get the feeling by the time we get there on TV, there’s going to be plenty of reasons and opportunities for some severe re-working / cutting.

    #115111
    Jonathan Capps
    Keymaster

    PROPER SEASON 2 PHOTOS:

    http://winteriscoming.net/2012/02/the-first-publicity-photos-from-season-two/

    Brienne looks *perfect*, as does… well, everyone else. Davos especially looks like he’s going to the best thing on telly ever.

    #115192
    Ridley
    Participant

    #115193

    :-D

    Hodor, hodor ^_~ .

    #115694
    Bob Loblaw
    Participant

    A few bits and pieces:

    New trailer (with contemporary music and everything!): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVkr9oYsIbo

    The young actors singing the theme tune on one of the commentaries: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t92ukx0A2fk

    The Simpsons GoT intro: http://io9.com/5890410/watch-the-simpsons-game-of-thrones-intro

    #115695
    Danny Stephenson
    Keymaster

    HAHAHA…… i dont’ get any of these references :P

    #116055
    Jonathan Capps
    Keymaster

    Excellent recap of season 1 / preview of season 2:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Dku_Uya8Ygc

    I AM EXCITED.

    #116132
    UncreativeUserName
    Participant

    I haven’t been this fucking excited for a show since Back To Earth.

    #116133
    Jonathan Capps
    Keymaster

    Everything I’ve seen suggests this is going to be amazing and even better than what they did in season 1. It also helps that it’s based on my favourite of the books.

    #116149
    Jonathan Capps
    Keymaster

    Anyone watch episode 1 yet? I bloody loved that. The TV writers really seem to have nailed the skill of compressing the book’s story, keeping the good stuff and adding its own scenes to deal with the necessary exposition.

    Was massively impressed with the CG, too. The dragon and direwolves looked amazing for a TV show. On top of that the matte paintings are beyond brilliant. King’s Landing seems so much bigger this season with those establishing shots, and they did a great job to show the vast wilderness the Night’s Watch are currently trudging through.

    #116150
    ori-STUDFARM
    Participant

    I spent most of the episode trying to remember who was who….Can’t believe how shoddy my memory has become…

    But yeah. Really enjoyed it. Although I now just want giant dragons and more direwolves. The direwolves actually looked so much more than standard wolves this episode.

    #116112
    Ridley
    Participant

    I’d rather they kept real dogs considering how more CGI will be needed as the show goes on. Plus the eyeline with Drogon was off.

    Nice to get an expanded map:

    http://i.cdn.hbo.com/custom-assets/enrichments/series/game-of-thrones/r3/images/map/s2/maps/worldview_regular.jpg

    #116110
    performingmonkey
    Participant

    > I spent most of the episode trying to remember who was who

    I’m so glad I’ve been reading the books, otherwise I know I would’ve been ‘who the hell are they talking about??’ some of the time.

    I reckon they got Craster and his daughters exactly right. Beyond the Wall is gonna be awesome this and, indeed, next series! The Dragonstone scenes weren’t how I imagined though. I’m not sure of Stannis and Melissandre’s casting. It should have been a strong, dramatic opening to the episode like how it opens the Clash of Kings book.

    #116155
    Jonathan Capps
    Keymaster

    > I’d rather they kept real dogs considering how more CGI will be needed as the show goes on.

    Well, they need to deal with the fact that they’re now getting very big and will soon be bigger than any actual wolf. I think even though it’s obviously very difficult and expensive to use CG and green screen for the wolves now, at least it means they know any big important scenes can be done exactly as they want, rather than dealing with live animals.

    > The Dragonstone scenes weren’t how I imagined though. I’m not sure of Stannis and Melissandre’s casting. It should have been a strong, dramatic opening to the episode like how it opens the Clash of Kings book.

    Yeah, I was amazed how flat the Burning of the Seven was. It really wasn’t portrayed as being as big a thing as it is, and Cressen was really mishandled. Still, I’ve got a feel Stannis and Mel are going to be awesome this season, so I’m not too worried about them botching the introduction.

    #116210
    Jonathan Capps
    Keymaster

    Second episode was GOOD. Ghost looked awesome but it’s a shame we’ve not seen him with Jon. Ghost should be either off hunting or basically stuck to Jon’s side, but I guess it’s just as hard to CG a wolf into every scene than it is to include a real one. It’s a shame for the second episode running we only have a token Dany scene, too, but presumably that will change soon.

    Only big problem I’m having is the Dragonstone story. First they completely fuck up Maester Cressen’s story in episode 1 and now they’ve locked Queen Selyse in a tower and are explicitly showing Stannis and Mel fucking. I suppose it’s probably too much to ask HBO to be too subtle when it comes to anything to do with sex.

    #116198
    ori-STUDFARM
    Participant

    You leave the HBO sex policy alone! I’m fine with how it is :)

    #116265
    performingmonkey
    Participant

    > It’s a shame for the second episode running we only have a token Dany scene, too, but presumably that will change soon.

    I was hoping they were gonna bring forward some of her story from Storm of Swords (book 3) into this season (she has so little going on in Clash of Kings) but it doesn’t look like that’ll be the case…

    #116219
    Jonathan Capps
    Keymaster

    > I was hoping they were gonna bring forward some of her story from Storm of Swords (book 3) into this season (she has so little going on in Clash of Kings) but it doesn’t look like that’ll be the case…

    Yeah, she should really be at her next proper destination by now, especially since her actions aren’t particularly tied to the Westeros timeline at this point so there should be plenty of room to compress as they want.

    In other unsurprising news season 3 has been announced and GRRM has said it will cover roughly the first half of Storm of Swords. Excellent news that they’re giving that book two whole seasons, because it really is tremendous.

    #116288
    Ridley
    Participant

    She’s the Jon Snow of Season 2.

    If the show gets that far, presumably Seasons 5-8 would be books four and five merged?

    #116289
    performingmonkey
    Participant

    Surely it needs to be split in two, otherwise the series is gonna catch up with Martin’s writing too quickly! I reckon we can now guess what the last shot of season 3 will be…

    I think an idea, to pad things out a bit if needed, would be to shoot some flashbacks of the last days of the Mad King, with younger cast as Rhaegar, Jaime, Robert and Ned Stark. Heck, the Battle of the Trident is film-worthy.

    #116297
    Jonathan Capps
    Keymaster

    > Surely it needs to be split in two, otherwise the series is gonna catch up with Martin’s writing too quickly!

    I think after A Storm of Swords that’ll be where the TV show will start diverging more drastically from the books because while I love A Feast for Crows it’s got *so* much in it that I can see them cutting. They can probably almost entirely dispense of Dorne (even though I love that story).

    > I reckon we can now guess what the last shot of season 3 will be…

    The great thing about ASoS is that it has so many big events that there’s more than enough to share between two seasons. I believe the event you’re referring to happens about half way through the book, too, so it makes sense to have that at the end of season 3.

    > I think an idea, to pad things out a bit if needed, would be to shoot some flashbacks of the last days of the Mad King, with younger cast as Rhaegar, Jaime, Robert and Ned Stark. Heck, the Battle of the Trident is film-worthy.

    Love this idea. One of the big draws of this series for me is the history and it’s a shame that most of it has been relegated to the odd mention in the show. They could definitely get a lot of mileage of having an episode or two (or more?) of pure flashback to Robert’s Rebellion because you’ve got The Battle of the Trident, the Siege of Storm’s End, the Iron Island Rebellion AND the mysterious events that took place in the Tower of Joy in Dorne.

    Aside from that, though, I really want a Dunk & Egg mini-series.

    #116315
    Jonathan Capps
    Keymaster

    Really looking forward to tonight’s episode. Everyone who’s seen the first 4 episodes as part of the press pack have said it’s their favourite.

    In the meantime, this is awesome:

    http://www.gameofthronesmap.org/

    It keeps track of all the characters positions as per the TV show. I think it might’ve been updated since episode was shown last night in the states, but I can’t see anything spoilery in there aside from characters bios for some people we’ve not met yet.

    #116334
    Jonathan Capps
    Keymaster

    BRILLIANT EPISODE. I’d really like to see more of Bran and Winterfell, though, because the brief scene in this episode was probably my favourite. You had another Bran / Summer moment and Maester Luwin talking to Bran about magic was really nice.

    Also, Yoren was fucking ace in that final scene. But now he’s dead.

    #116336
    TheLeen
    Participant

    I set my alarm to 6:30 Monday morning so I could watch this before work. I really love it.

    What scares me is that we’re only at the beginning of vol. 2 and it’s already so many characters that many of them only get a few minutes screen time (if that); and the trend continues, yes? My friend said that GRRM keeps throwing more people at her while she’s really most interested in what happens to the people from the first book. I think that’ll be a problem for the tv show before long.

    That being said, so far I haven’t had any problems keeping up with the who’s and when’s and what’s.

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