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  • #3336
    Dessie
    Participant

    Basically post little things you noticed in the episodes that made you smile.

    I liked the photo of Macintyre on the grave stone and of course the lovely tribute to Mel Bibby.
    Also Cats line in part 3 “This is worse than Rimmer World”

    #96368
    Mnoooah
    Participant

    Said it before, but- the price smashers bunkroom.

    #96369
    philmyer92
    Participant

    picture of Listers dads dog, Hannah, in the price smashers bunkroom

    #96373
    Andrew
    Participant

    I highly recommend looking at the TV in background of the Price Smashes bunkroom…

    #96375
    Mnoooah
    Participant

    shoot, don’t recognize it. Somebody?

    #96376
    Dessie
    Participant

    Is it symbolizing the squid?

    #96379
    Andrew
    Participant

    Here’s a clearer photo:

    Photobucket

    #96380
    Dessie
    Participant

    Holly?

    #96382
    Mnoooah
    Participant

    Oh for fuck’s sake, you beaut! Thanks for showing us that!

    #96383
    Dessie
    Participant

    That is brilliant! I wouldn’t of noticed that if i watched it 100 times.

    #96384
    pfm
    Participant

    Those leaves are far too long for a computer. Oh, and what’re those spots in the middle of it’s ‘head’?

    #96385
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Mel Bibby’s picture at the gravestone.

    Didn’t make me smile but it was Hell of a nice thing to do.

    RIP

    #96386
    JamesTC
    Participant

    Normans replacement is a plant.

    #96387
    Mnoooah
    Participant

    Plants are quieter.

    #96388
    SkyAndSun
    Participant

    And I bet it moans if it’s not recast in the future.

    #96391
    Seb Patrick
    Keymaster

    We spotted Hannah, Lister’s grandma and the Jupiter Rise in that scene – and also that it was basically laid out like the bunkroom, though I guess everyone got those.

    As I mentioned on the cast, I liked “We want more life, smegger!” Felt like a rare occasion when using the word was justified. Also, was it deliberately muffled the second time, to match the fact that it’s been said that in the film the muffling was deliberate so that it could be interpreted as either “father” or “fucker”?

    #96394
    Alex
    Participant

    And I bet it moans if it?s not recast in the future.

    I think you?d have to forgive that of an anthropomorphic plant…

    #96395
    hummingbird
    Participant

    There was a guitar in the bunkroom, too.

    #96397
    Mnoooah
    Participant

    Just watching it again, aquired a new appreciation of the people wandering through it.

    #96401
    si
    Participant

    This Special was originally going to be a celebration of 21 years of Red Dwarf, yes? I bet if you got a list of every episode, and ticked them off as they were mentioned or referenced in BtE, you’d have ticked most of them…

    #96402
    Seb Patrick
    Keymaster

    >Just watching it again, aquired a new appreciation of the people wandering through it.

    Do tell? I can’t spot anything about them…

    #96403
    Mnoooah
    Participant

    Oh, just that there are random people in a bunkroom scene. They’re probably only there to maintain the store atmosphere, but the fact that Lister has to stop and wait for the crowd to clear out before he can talk strikes me as funny.

    #96404
    Jonsmad
    Participant

    In the coronation street Kabin Scene. A sign on the counter that says “Actors do not eat the sweets unless scripted to do so – This means you!”

    Which is both a nice nod to the fact they are in the coronation street set,
    and also a nod to the fact that the dwarf crew are scripted by their group halucination.

    #96406
    Nick R
    Participant

    > There was a guitar in the bunkroom, too.

    Lister was also preparing to take it with him through the portal.

    #96407
    Andrew
    Participant

    You’ll see a lot of ‘cameos’ from the crew. Jo Howard and Howard Burden on the escalator in part two, members of the production team in the ‘bunkroom’, Mike Seymour outside the comic shop (with, um, the back of my head, left of frame)…

    #96408
    Mnoooah
    Participant

    The crew surrounded by… the crew. Nice!

    #96409
    Mnoooah
    Participant

    All the back of andrew’s head wanted was a sitcom… in a biscuit factory.

    #96424
    JamesTC
    Participant

    >This Special was originally going to be a celebration of 21 years of Red Dwarf, yes? I bet if you got a list of every episode, and ticked them off as they were mentioned or referenced in BtE, you?d have ticked most of them?

    Hmm, well let us have a look, I’m watching it now so I will add as I watch –
    Rimmerworld (Cat mentiones it in Coronation Street)
    Out of Time/Tikka to Ride (time drive)
    Polymorph (scene played in the background and the snake is mentioned)
    Back to Reality (isn’t obvious)
    Balance of Power (can only sustain one hologram stuff and Lister’s face down the window thing)
    Timeslides (mentioned in comic shop)
    Marooned (classic car mag stuff, he expressed an intrest in cars in that episode)
    Quarantine (Mr Flibble in his mini cameo in the show)
    Terrorform (Kryten wearing the arm bands)
    Legion (“no way this will work” similar to the end of ‘Legion’ were none of them think it will work)
    Beyond a Joke/Justice (simulant)
    Back to Earth (Yes I am counting this, it refrences itself)
    Demons and Angels (Die screaming with sharp things in your head)
    Most of Series 1 (Mugs Murphy)
    Better than Life/ Me2 (videos replacing DVDs)
    Future Echoes (Lister’s Dog Hannah being in the mini-bunkroom)
    Backwards (Kryten dressing up so as not to look weird)
    Gunmen of the Apocalypse (a picture of Rimmer from the episode in the comic shop)
    The Inquisitor (a head knocker appears)
    Parallel Universe (Holly hop Drive mentioned in comic shop)

    Have I missed any?

    #96425
    SkyAndSun
    Participant

    Munchkins…

    #96426
    JamesTC
    Participant

    I thought of that but I thought it was something to do with Blade Runner.

    #96427
    Pete Part Three
    Participant

    >Beyond a Joke/Justice (simulant)

    Where was the simulant?

    #96428
    JamesTC
    Participant

    Swallow had a simulant costume on.

    #96429
    Seb Patrick
    Keymaster

    >I thought of that but I thought it was something to do with Blade Runner.

    I think it was a bit of both – certainly, making them both Rimmer called to mind Blue!

    Nice list, btw. Pretty sure it can be added to but that’s a good start!

    #96430
    JamesTC
    Participant

    Rachel was mentioned but I can’t remember the first episode she was mentioned, it was Series II or III, possibly ‘Timeslides’ but it might have been mentioned earlier.

    #96432
    Pete Part Three
    Participant

    Yes, I think you’ve proved conclusively that BTE is to Red Dwarf what Die Another Day was to Bond.

    #96435
    Ian Symes
    Keymaster

    A touch I thought I’d imagined on first viewing but confirmed just now – the little meow on the establishing shot of Coronation Street at the start of Part Three.

    #96437
    Mnoooah
    Participant

    What is the meow for?

    #96439
    Andrew
    Participant

    Milk.

    #96440
    Jonsmad
    Participant

    The space corp directive you can add all the episodes that reference that. And the psi-scan.

    The dimension cutter is a bit Dimension Jump like.

    The I’m going to eat you little fishy song from Future Echo’s, Cat’s early entrances and exits from early series. Was his coat the one from Marooned?

    Russian accent hologram very like Holo-ship.

    #96441
    Richey
    Participant

    > What is the meow for?

    A reference to the opening shot of every Coronation Street episode, I believe. I guess they could have had The Cat go ‘Yeeeoooww!’ instead, but I’m glad they didn’t :P

    #96442
    Jonsmad
    Participant

    >Milk.

    ?

    We’re on the cat’s milk?

    #96448
    Mnoooah
    Participant

    > We?re on the cat?s milk?

    No, we ran- oh wait, yeah we are.

    #96467
    Tarka Dal
    Participant

    Beyond all the quotes and visual touches an awful lot of the dialogue at times appeared to skate very close to previous lines. I’m far too tired to pick out examples right now, but I noticed a lot of the Rimmer & Katerina stuff to me echoed earlier episodes.

    Oh another one – Cat interrupting an emotional scene (at the grave) was a retread of the Obs. Dome scene from Better than Life.

    #96469
    si
    Participant

    I’m sure it must have been mentioned elsewhere, but Rimmer’s belt disappeared on Coronation Street.

    #96470
    Tarka Dal
    Participant

    ALIENS!

    #96474
    JamesTC
    Participant

    You think anything weird is aliens, your belt goes missing, “its aliens”, a picture isn’t level on the wall, “its aliens”. That time we used a whole bog roll in a day and I had to dry my arse on a hand dryer, you thought that was aliens as well.

    #96488
    si
    Participant

    *applause*

    #96491
    Muzzy
    Participant

    Was thinking, surely Rimmer should have wanted a sitcom in a leisure centre rather than a biscuit factory… :P

    #96494
    Tarka Dal
    Participant

    See I was thinking something about an ex-footballer.

    #96497
    Dessie
    Participant

    Does anyone else think the portal to the alternate dimension looks a bit like a squid as it opens?

    #96499
    Carlito
    Participant

    Question for Andrew… was that Chloe Annett on the cover of ‘The Lady with a Face’?

    #96501
    dooky
    Participant

    Hmmmm…

    Meltdown (The matter paddle)
    The Last Day (Don’t give me that Star Trek crap)
    It was mentioned in one of the Dwarfcasts, but the way that Katerina appeared had shades of Queeg about it.
    Also, the thing with Lister’s face against the window was Waiting for God.

    #96502
    JamesTC
    Participant

    >Also, the thing with Lister?s face against the window was Waiting for God.
    Oops.

    >Meltdown (The matter paddle)
    For some reason I was thinking it as the teleporter in Series VI.

    #96503
    ChrisM
    Participant

    I thought of the teleporter when they said “We don’t do that” in the comic shop. Not that that wasn’t mostly true. Its not as if they used the teleporter on a regular basis. (Rimmerworld)

    #96504
    dooky
    Participant

    Oooh, just thought of another one. Kryten’s speech at the end about universes seems to echo (and expand upon) Bongo’s speech at the beginning of Dimension Jump.

    Also, mostly unrelated… I was just checking the credits, and it says the male customer in Price Smashers was played by Jon Glover. Is this the same one who portrayed Mr Cholmondley-Warner?

    #96507
    Carlito
    Participant

    ’tis.

    #96612
    Nick R
    Participant

    Dimension Jump:

    The elastic was intact on Carbug’s furry dice, which means they had a slightly less tasteful windscreen.

    #96613
    si
    Participant

    >Does anyone else think the portal to the alternate dimension looks a bit like a squid as it opens?

    We thought it looked like the Freesat logo.

    http://www.google.co.uk/images?q=tbn:oLFjJN34ektlJM::www.digital-tv.co.uk/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/freesat_logo_large.jpg

    #96643
    Ian Symes
    Keymaster

    Rimmer’s response to Katerina asking “is that you?” in the bunkroom. One of the strangest, and yet most quotable, versions of the word “no” ever recorded.

    #96645
    Mnoooah
    Participant

    Missed that completely! Now I like that scene even more.

    #96647
    ChrisM
    Participant

    >Missed that completely!

    Me too!

    #96648
    Danny Stephenson
    Keymaster

    Rimmer?s response to Katerina asking ?is that you?? in the bunkroom. One of the strangest, and yet most quotable, versions of the word ?no? ever recorded.

    I think we missed that too on first viewing, but when we watched it again it was one of those things you wanted to hear over and over and over again.

    #96650
    Ian Symes
    Keymaster

    How would you spell it? I’m going to go for:

    MNOOOAH.

    #96666
    hummingbird
    Participant

    It’s more like a NNUURRR

    #96672
    Mnoooah
    Participant

    I liked that so much Ian, it’s my new name.

    #96681
    Ian Symes
    Keymaster

    In fact, he likes synthesisers so much, he even changed his name to Synthesiser Patel.

    #96695
    pfm
    Participant

    I would seriously change my name to ‘Roland TR-909’ – the greatest drum machine ever created.

    #96697
    Stabbim the Skutter
    Participant

    > Have I missed any?

    Only the Good – Rimmer going on about finding a girlfriend, bonking her then finding out she’s his long-lost sister.

    > Rimmer?s response to Katerina asking ?is that you?? in the bunkroom. One of the strangest, and yet most quotable, versions of the word ?no? ever recorded.

    That’s second only to this one:

    #96734
    Carlito
    Participant

    The person who made the latex masks was called Swallow.

    Swallow… Finch… Swallow… no?

    #96737
    Danny Stephenson
    Keymaster

    No no, The character’s name in Blade Runner is Hannibal Chew.

    Chew. Swallow.

    I would like to know who provided me with that information this weekend, I believe it was Seb.

    Just be thankful it’s not Frank Spitt or something.

    #96738
    Carlito
    Participant

    Well then, it’s a double in-joke?

    #96820
    Zombie Jim Undead
    Participant

    I liked the mention of the Polymorph having turned into an “aritificial snake”, thus finally excusing the shoddy snake prop!

    #96823
    Tarka Dal
    Participant

    > I would like to know who provided me with that information this weekend, I believe it was Seb.

    Now all we need to find out is who provided Seb with that information ;-)

    #96824
    Danny Stephenson
    Keymaster

    I liked the mention of the Polymorph having turned into an ?aritificial snake?, thus finally excusing the shoddy snake prop!

    I never quite twigged on that but I like that explanation!!

    #96825
    Phil
    Participant

    >I never quite twigged on that but I like that explanation!!

    Ditto to both. That IS good.

    #96826
    Danny Stephenson
    Keymaster

    It’s like when Futurama are explaining hole in plotpoints. Whereas Red Dwarf hasn’t ever needed to explain themselves in terms of continuity, little things like that are what are making this special very… er .. special.

    Cor. Doug’s good isn’t he?

    #96827
    Zombie Jim Undead
    Participant

    I’m sure there’s some equally brilliant explanation as to why I spelled it “aritificial”.

    #96842
    si
    Participant

    You can’t spell?

    #96843
    Zombie Jim Undead
    Participant

    Oh pis of.

    #96883
    Stabbim the Skutter
    Participant

    Witch me, guys, just witch me.

    #96888
    SkyAndSun
    Participant

    Weird how Doug apparently wrote the best script he’s written solo in a hurry, starting later than he’d planned, in November. Perhaps he is similar to George Lucas, who wrote his best stuff (Star Wars) under pressure and created The Phantom Menace when his resources were unlimited?

    #96892
    Another Phil
    Participant

    Yeah, I’ve always had the feeling that one of the problems with Series 8 in particular was that Doug, with a good but not massive budget, let his imagination outstrip the limits of the budget, coming up with stuff that simply couldn’t be done (like the aborted ‘Earth’) or could only be done poorly (like ‘Pete’), and the series ended up being a compromise that didn’t really work. The solution seems to be either to give him a proper big budget (like the movie would be) and give his imagination free rein, or to give him a really small budget (like BtE) so as to force him to think more carefully about what he is doing.

    #96900
    SkyAndSun
    Participant

    Rewatching some of series VIII recently confirmed that its main problem for me was that it wasn’t funny. It was like My Family in space – vaguely amusing but kind of dumb, and not in a knowing way. Though this is going off topic.

    #96908
    Pete Part Three
    Participant

    It’s ok, you’re allowed to criticise VII and VIII round here. People only get tetchy if you whine about BtE.

    #96909
    hummingbird
    Participant

    “Tetchy”?

    #96910
    NoFro
    Participant

    I’ve never mentioned my feelings towards VIII on here but here’s where I felt it went wrong:

    One of the problems with series VIII is that Doug did things just because he was able to. I’m pretty sure he said in the doc. that Pete was written because Chris Veale said he could do a dinosaur. Seems a pretty shit reason to do an episode if you ask me. Without the fx we wouldn’t have been able to have Pete, the dancing blue midget or the going up a rats arse section.
    Hardly great losses.

    But yes, I think the main problem with VIII is that the comedy was hit and miss to great extremes (with some jokes actually being really good, to others being unbelievably weak… BTE had none of the latter in my opinion) and the lack of decent stories. “Only The Good…” was pretty much a series of weakly linked sketches with a cliffhanger at the end. Other episodes (such as Pete) seemed to do the same thing.
    Not to say all those sketches were bad.

    Oh, and the character based dislogue and jokes went for the most part.

    Back on topic, BTE had a decent Dwarf plot that was written with a limited budget in mind, resulting in the script having to be stronger and in my opinion it was. I think fan expectation is what made Doug realise that he had to have some good character based stuff in there and we got a lot more of it than we get in most Dwarf episodes as a result, in my opinion.

    Rimmer’s rant about how he’s described on the DVD boxes and him buying his ticket (where’s first class?) on the bus was some of the most Rimmer like lines we’ve heard in a long time in my opinion. Very Dwarf, very good.

    Now I expect my opinions to be ripped to shreds by some sarcastic smart arse…

    #97070
    Andrew
    Participant

    > who wrote his best stuff (Star Wars) under pressure

    Well, hardly. He developed that script for years. And what made a lot of it work in the end was…the (uncredited) rewrite by two other writers.

    #97224
    littlesmegger
    Participant

    Aaaand bringing it back onto topic… mostly for selfish reasons, ahem… where abouts did Mr.Flibble appear? Unless he’s the merchandise in the shop?

    #97225
    Carlito
    Participant

    Was it Chloe on the cover of The Lady with a Face then?

    #97232
    Mnoooah
    Participant

    its a safe bet.

    #97241
    hummingbird
    Participant

    > where abouts did Mr.Flibble appear? Unless he?s the merchandise in the shop?

    Yes, he’s in the shop.

    #97248
    Andrew
    Participant

    > Was it Chloe on the cover of The Lady with a Face then?

    No. And it wasn’t Sophie, either.

    #97250
    Tarka Dal
    Participant

    > No. And it wasn?t Sophie, either.

    Them, I had no idea you looked so good in make-up Mr Ellard sir.

    #97255
    Seb Patrick
    Keymaster

    Well, hardly. He developed that script for years. And what made a lot of it work in the end was?the (uncredited) rewrite by two other writers.

    Plus, Empire was better, and that was written by Hurley.

    #97256
    Tarka Dal
    Participant

    > Plus, Empire was better, and that was written by Hurley.

    Are you quoting?

    #97258
    Ian Symes
    Keymaster

    Paraphrasing LOST.

    #97259
    Tarka Dal
    Participant

    Oh. I thought it might be something good.

    #97274
    si
    Participant

    As I’ve already pointed out elsewhere, Mr Flibble’s in the bottom right corner of the left hand window in the external shot of them entering the shop.

    #97343
    hummingbird
    Participant

    > Plus, Empire was better, and that was written by Hurley.

    He didn’t get them to cut the Ewoks from Jedi, though, did he? Sheesh!

    #97360
    Jo
    Participant

    >Oh. I thought it might be something good.

    I thought *you* might be something good. I was wrong.

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