Nice touches you noticed in Back To Earth

[Carlito]

Question for Andrew… was that Chloe Annett on the cover of ‘The Lady with a Face’?

[dooky]

Hmmmm…

Meltdown (The matter paddle)
The Last Day (Don’t give me that Star Trek crap)
It was mentioned in one of the Dwarfcasts, but the way that Katerina appeared had shades of Queeg about it.
Also, the thing with Lister’s face against the window was Waiting for God.

[JamesTC]

>Also, the thing with Lister?s face against the window was Waiting for God.
Oops.

>Meltdown (The matter paddle)
For some reason I was thinking it as the teleporter in Series VI.

[ChrisM]

I thought of the teleporter when they said “We don’t do that” in the comic shop. Not that that wasn’t mostly true. Its not as if they used the teleporter on a regular basis. (Rimmerworld)

[dooky]

Oooh, just thought of another one. Kryten’s speech at the end about universes seems to echo (and expand upon) Bongo’s speech at the beginning of Dimension Jump.

Also, mostly unrelated… I was just checking the credits, and it says the male customer in Price Smashers was played by Jon Glover. Is this the same one who portrayed Mr Cholmondley-Warner?

[Carlito]

’tis.

[Nick R]

Dimension Jump:

The elastic was intact on Carbug’s furry dice, which means they had a slightly less tasteful windscreen.

[si]

>Does anyone else think the portal to the alternate dimension looks a bit like a squid as it opens?

We thought it looked like the Freesat logo.

http://www.google.co.uk/images?q=tbn:oLFjJN34ektlJM::www.digital-tv.co.uk/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/freesat_logo_large.jpg

[Ian Symes]

Rimmer’s response to Katerina asking “is that you?” in the bunkroom. One of the strangest, and yet most quotable, versions of the word “no” ever recorded.

[Mnoooah]

Missed that completely! Now I like that scene even more.

[ChrisM]

>Missed that completely!

Me too!

[Danny Stephenson]

Rimmer?s response to Katerina asking ?is that you?? in the bunkroom. One of the strangest, and yet most quotable, versions of the word ?no? ever recorded.

I think we missed that too on first viewing, but when we watched it again it was one of those things you wanted to hear over and over and over again.

[Ian Symes]

How would you spell it? I’m going to go for:

MNOOOAH.

[hummingbird]

It’s more like a NNUURRR

[Mnoooah]

I liked that so much Ian, it’s my new name.

[Ian Symes]

In fact, he likes synthesisers so much, he even changed his name to Synthesiser Patel.

[pfm]

I would seriously change my name to ‘Roland TR-909’ – the greatest drum machine ever created.

[Stabbim the Skutter]

> Have I missed any?

Only the Good – Rimmer going on about finding a girlfriend, bonking her then finding out she’s his long-lost sister.

> Rimmer?s response to Katerina asking ?is that you?? in the bunkroom. One of the strangest, and yet most quotable, versions of the word ?no? ever recorded.

That’s second only to this one:

[Carlito]

The person who made the latex masks was called Swallow.

Swallow… Finch… Swallow… no?

[Danny Stephenson]

No no, The character’s name in Blade Runner is Hannibal Chew.

Chew. Swallow.

I would like to know who provided me with that information this weekend, I believe it was Seb.

Just be thankful it’s not Frank Spitt or something.

[Carlito]

Well then, it’s a double in-joke?

[Zombie Jim Undead]

I liked the mention of the Polymorph having turned into an “aritificial snake”, thus finally excusing the shoddy snake prop!

[Tarka Dal]

> I would like to know who provided me with that information this weekend, I believe it was Seb.

Now all we need to find out is who provided Seb with that information ;-)

[Danny Stephenson]

I liked the mention of the Polymorph having turned into an ?aritificial snake?, thus finally excusing the shoddy snake prop!

I never quite twigged on that but I like that explanation!!

[Phil]

>I never quite twigged on that but I like that explanation!!

Ditto to both. That IS good.

[Danny Stephenson]

It’s like when Futurama are explaining hole in plotpoints. Whereas Red Dwarf hasn’t ever needed to explain themselves in terms of continuity, little things like that are what are making this special very… er .. special.

Cor. Doug’s good isn’t he?

[Zombie Jim Undead]

I’m sure there’s some equally brilliant explanation as to why I spelled it “aritificial”.

[si]

You can’t spell?

[Zombie Jim Undead]

Oh pis of.

[Stabbim the Skutter]

Witch me, guys, just witch me.

[SkyAndSun]

Weird how Doug apparently wrote the best script he’s written solo in a hurry, starting later than he’d planned, in November. Perhaps he is similar to George Lucas, who wrote his best stuff (Star Wars) under pressure and created The Phantom Menace when his resources were unlimited?

[Another Phil]

Yeah, I’ve always had the feeling that one of the problems with Series 8 in particular was that Doug, with a good but not massive budget, let his imagination outstrip the limits of the budget, coming up with stuff that simply couldn’t be done (like the aborted ‘Earth’) or could only be done poorly (like ‘Pete’), and the series ended up being a compromise that didn’t really work. The solution seems to be either to give him a proper big budget (like the movie would be) and give his imagination free rein, or to give him a really small budget (like BtE) so as to force him to think more carefully about what he is doing.

[SkyAndSun]

Rewatching some of series VIII recently confirmed that its main problem for me was that it wasn’t funny. It was like My Family in space – vaguely amusing but kind of dumb, and not in a knowing way. Though this is going off topic.

[Pete Part Three]

It’s ok, you’re allowed to criticise VII and VIII round here. People only get tetchy if you whine about BtE.

[hummingbird]

“Tetchy”?

[NoFro]

I’ve never mentioned my feelings towards VIII on here but here’s where I felt it went wrong:

One of the problems with series VIII is that Doug did things just because he was able to. I’m pretty sure he said in the doc. that Pete was written because Chris Veale said he could do a dinosaur. Seems a pretty shit reason to do an episode if you ask me. Without the fx we wouldn’t have been able to have Pete, the dancing blue midget or the going up a rats arse section.
Hardly great losses.

But yes, I think the main problem with VIII is that the comedy was hit and miss to great extremes (with some jokes actually being really good, to others being unbelievably weak… BTE had none of the latter in my opinion) and the lack of decent stories. “Only The Good…” was pretty much a series of weakly linked sketches with a cliffhanger at the end. Other episodes (such as Pete) seemed to do the same thing.
Not to say all those sketches were bad.

Oh, and the character based dislogue and jokes went for the most part.

Back on topic, BTE had a decent Dwarf plot that was written with a limited budget in mind, resulting in the script having to be stronger and in my opinion it was. I think fan expectation is what made Doug realise that he had to have some good character based stuff in there and we got a lot more of it than we get in most Dwarf episodes as a result, in my opinion.

Rimmer’s rant about how he’s described on the DVD boxes and him buying his ticket (where’s first class?) on the bus was some of the most Rimmer like lines we’ve heard in a long time in my opinion. Very Dwarf, very good.

Now I expect my opinions to be ripped to shreds by some sarcastic smart arse…

[Andrew]

> who wrote his best stuff (Star Wars) under pressure

Well, hardly. He developed that script for years. And what made a lot of it work in the end was…the (uncredited) rewrite by two other writers.

[littlesmegger]

Aaaand bringing it back onto topic… mostly for selfish reasons, ahem… where abouts did Mr.Flibble appear? Unless he’s the merchandise in the shop?

[Carlito]

Was it Chloe on the cover of The Lady with a Face then?

[Mnoooah]

its a safe bet.

[hummingbird]

> where abouts did Mr.Flibble appear? Unless he?s the merchandise in the shop?

Yes, he’s in the shop.

[Andrew]

> Was it Chloe on the cover of The Lady with a Face then?

No. And it wasn’t Sophie, either.

[Tarka Dal]

> No. And it wasn?t Sophie, either.

Them, I had no idea you looked so good in make-up Mr Ellard sir.

[Seb Patrick]

Well, hardly. He developed that script for years. And what made a lot of it work in the end was?the (uncredited) rewrite by two other writers.

Plus, Empire was better, and that was written by Hurley.

[Tarka Dal]

> Plus, Empire was better, and that was written by Hurley.

Are you quoting?

[Ian Symes]

Paraphrasing LOST.

[Tarka Dal]

Oh. I thought it might be something good.

[si]

As I’ve already pointed out elsewhere, Mr Flibble’s in the bottom right corner of the left hand window in the external shot of them entering the shop.

[hummingbird]

> Plus, Empire was better, and that was written by Hurley.

He didn’t get them to cut the Ewoks from Jedi, though, did he? Sheesh!

[Jo]

>Oh. I thought it might be something good.

I thought *you* might be something good. I was wrong.

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