Home › Forums › Ganymede & Titan Forum › Nigel "Smegazine" Kitching's Red Dwarf references in Sonic the Comic Search for: This topic has 19 replies, 7 voices, and was last updated 2 years, 10 months ago by Jenuall. Scroll to bottom Viewing 20 posts - 1 through 20 (of 20 total) Author Posts September 11, 2017 at 6:25 am #221191 WarbodogParticipant Hello there! Ten-year site reader, first time poster, because when you’ve got something this monumental to share, you don’t keep it quiet for eleven years. It might well be of no interest to anyone apart from me, but there might be some other people here in the Venn diagram of ’90s kids who loved Red Dwarf and comics about blue hedgehogs. Background Nigel Kitching wrote and drew for the Smegazine from Nov ’92 to Nov ’93. His stories were notable for their better grasp of the characters and the feel of the show than the usual Smegazine tat, as well as for their extensive references to episodes and the novels. He was clearly a fan. During this time, he started to write (and sometimes draw) for Sonic the Comic, also published by Fleetway. His early stories include the odd Red Dwarf reference (definite or imaginary) which peter out over time. When I asked him about some of the more obvious examples on an STC forum years ago, he said yeah, it was Red Dwarf. I discovered more last year when I read all the comics again despite being a 30-year-old grown man. Refs Dwarf Here are the comic panels and the episodes they relate to. I’ll assume you know the Red Dwarf bits already, except when I’m grasping. 1. ‘Super Sonic’ v. ‘Polymorph’ 2. ‘Back to Reality’ v. ‘Quarantine’ (And yeah, that title). 3. ‘Megatox’ v. ‘Demons and Angels’ (Holowhip…?) 4. ‘Girl Trouble’ v. ‘White Hole’ The Kintobor computer is modelled after Robotnik before he went bad, but it looks as if bald Holly got the White Hole treatment. I know, these are getting rubbish now, but I’m about to bring it back. 5. ‘Girl Trouble’ v. ‘The End’ Did you spot it, boomers? 6. ‘The Sonic Terminator’ v. ‘Future Echoes’ & ‘The Inquisitor’ Nigel’s explained that the time travel in this story is indebted to Red Dwarf, especially when events catch up and they repeat the same page later in the story from the other Sonic(/Kryten/Rimmer)’s perspective. “get in the beam” = ‘”take the gauntlet and go” “well this had better not be a trick” = “well it probably is deja vu” 7. ‘Who Killed Chuck?’ v. ‘Future Echoes’ Slagging off PE teachers. 8. ‘The Tomb’ v. Starbug This insectoid craft was similarly prone to crashing. I’ve wasted my life. September 11, 2017 at 7:12 am #221192 DaveParticipant I read those comics at the time but never made those connections, despite being a Red Dwarf fan at that time too. Great! (I always loved the way that ‘Sonic Terminator’ story reuses that page. I should have thought of Future Echoes!) September 11, 2017 at 7:44 am #221193 WarbodogParticipant Thanks Dave, you’re helping to validate my life. Here’s the quote straight from the Kitching’s fingers when I asked about The Sonic Terminator’s RD parallels in 2012 on the STC forum: “The Sonic Terminator time travel thing was very directly inspired by Red Dwarf’s ‘Future Echoes’. I love the way the same exchange of dialogue worked equally well from both time perspectives and I really wanted to see if I could write a similar thing. “So yes, Red Dwarf was a big influence when it came to time travel stuff. … I was lucky to get work on the Smegazine – I was a fan of the series so it was great fun. “When I did Red Dwarf I think there was still something of the ‘fan writer’ going on. It took STC to make me really think about what I was doing” September 11, 2017 at 10:15 am #221198 Seb PatrickKeymaster Kitching’s work was always the best stuff in both StC (especially when he had Richard Elson drawing it, which I think a lot of the stuff above is?) and the Smegazine. I see him very much as the forerunner to James Roberts, whose Transformers: More than Meets the Eye is a tremendous character-driven comedy that also frequently works in (sometimes subtle, sometimes not-so-subtle) Dwarf references. September 11, 2017 at 8:37 pm #221214 Ian SymesKeymaster This is excellent, Mr Dog. September 12, 2017 at 12:45 am #221223 HamishParticipant > This is excellent, Mr Dog. A roverostomy, they called it. …sorry, I will go sit quietly in the corner now. May 13, 2021 at 9:03 pm #266571 DaveParticipant Not quite on-topic but I couldn’t be bothered to create a new thread for this either. I was reading Mark Millar and Dave Gibbons’ “The Secret Service” (aka Kingsman) for the first time tonight and this panel made me chuckle – one of the subplots revolves around various sci-fi celebs being kidnapped by the main villain: May 13, 2021 at 9:24 pm #266573 WarbodogParticipant I just reuploaded the lost images from the top, but the link-heavy post got caught in the spam filter as anticipated. May 14, 2021 at 10:40 am #266577 JenuallParticipant I would be very interested in seeing the re-uploads as I definitely fall into the crossover part of the Venn diagram! May 14, 2021 at 11:36 am #266581 WarbodogParticipant Here they are: https://imgur.com/a/Us1jqeK I was always curious about that Transformers series Seb mentioned, but being born a year or so too late for Transformers to be in my nostalgia, I haven’t got around to it. May 16, 2021 at 1:43 pm #266605 MoonlightParticipant No wonder every Red Dwarf fan I ever met played Sonic on the Mega Drive growing up. They were indoctrinated into the show by the Sonic comic via subtle references. May 16, 2021 at 2:22 pm #266607 WarbodogParticipant Dubious Red Dwarf in Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye, Book 1 It’s probably safe to assume that the British Transformers writer who sent a dysfunctional crew four million years into deep space to get on each others’ tits was also a Red Dwarf fan growing up, but scouting for references only turned up the vaguely familiar. He also doesn’t name the series among the influences in his introduction, going with things like “Dark Star meets Star Trek” instead. They were quite fun, anyway. No wonder every Red Dwarf fan I ever met played Sonic on the Mega Drive growing up. They were indoctrinated into the show by the Sonic comic via subtle references. I think the UK was more of a Mega Drive (and Master System) than SNES nation generally, something about release times. Sonic was also a natural successor in the wisecracking American-voiced action hero mutant animal thing slot when the Turtles got old and other attempts like Bucky O’Hare and Toxic Crusaders didn’t take. May 16, 2021 at 3:01 pm #266609 MoonlightParticipant Genesis was king here for a while, but Master System had no ground compared to the NES. There’s a reason it was called the Console Wars over here, with the NES taking the lead first but SEGA curbstomping Nintendo by introducing a 16-bit console years before the SNES. Sonic was a huge part of maintaining that too because it completely blew traditional platformers like Mario out of the water on a technical level and sheer “wow” factor for the time. Sonic 2 has always been one of my favorite games and I still regularly boot it up even if I just play a few zones. May 17, 2021 at 10:21 am #266626 JenuallParticipant Wow those scans are great! I remember quite a few of these from back in the day so that was an excellent nostalgia hit! :D August 28, 2021 at 1:34 pm #266572 WarbodogParticipant I’ll take your bump opportunity to reupload the original images I accidentally deleted from Blogger, since it’s the only worthwhile thing I’ve contributed here! February 23, 2022 at 7:47 pm #271839 DaveParticipant Reading Bryan Talbot’s Grandville at the moment, and this jumped out. February 24, 2022 at 11:18 am #271854 Ian SymesKeymaster Is the title an Open All Hours reference? February 24, 2022 at 11:45 am #271855 DaveParticipant Sadly not, it’s a reference to the 19th-century anthropomorphic animal artwork of J.J. Grandville. (Whereas the Open All Hours version would surely be G.G.Grandville.) There are lots of fantastic references and allusions scattered throughout the series though. I won’t spoil them here in case anyone wants to read it for themselves, but it’s an amazing blend of influences. A bit League Of Extraordinary Gentlemen in that sense. Tons of fun anyway, one of the most entertaining comics I’ve read in ages. February 24, 2022 at 12:11 pm #271856 WarbodogParticipant I remember enjoying it. February 24, 2022 at 1:09 pm #271857 JenuallParticipant Author Posts Viewing 20 posts - 1 through 20 (of 20 total) Scroll to top • Scroll to Recent Forum Posts You must be logged in to reply to this topic. Log In Username: Password: Keep me signed in Log In