Original Fly-by’s lost?

[thomasaevans]

Actually watching Back To Earth with Doug’s commentary for the first time (would you believe) and he just said that they tried to get the original fly-by shots from the BBC archive for use In Back To Earth – but they were lost.

So what’s on the DVD release? Are they video tape versions of the 35mm film?

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[Jonsmad]

You’ve found them! well done.

[Pete Part Three]

Fly-by’s lost what?

[thomasaevans]

Themselves.

[ori-STUDFARM]

Should never have used breadcrumbs as a way to chart the route they had taken…It never works!

[Jonathan Capps]

I would guess all the model rushes we say on the DVD were from video transfers rather than the original film, yeah. They’d need the original footage so they could re-digitise it all in HD, so that’s probably what Doug’s referring to.

I still think they did a good job on the CG ship in BTE, though.

[thomasaevans]

I think the pencil Dwarf on the menu’s of the Bodysnatcher collection Is the best CG dwarf. The lighting Is superb!

[Jonathan Capps]

Andrew’s confirmed the slightly worrying fact that the model shots on the DVD *were* transferred from the original film by BBC Worldwide but since then they’ve gone missing somewhere. Slightly worrying, but that explains why they couldn’t use them for BTE.

[thomasaevans]

Really? How did they go missing?

So they were part of the BBC archive. Then Grant Naylor took possession. Did they go back? Or did GNP keep hold of them?

[Jonathan Capps]

You can see the conversation Andrew had with us on Twitter, but the short story is no one knows where they’ve gone, and they’ve always been in BBCWW’s possession, even when transferring them for the DVD. GNP never had them.

[thomasaevans]

I wonder whether Grant Naylor can/should/will archive all BBC possessed Red Dwarf material?

[thomasaevans]

BBC archive have a terrible reputation… granted It’s not easy, but man they lose EVERYTHING! And If they don’t loose It, they’ve taped over It. They should of popped the security tab on the cassette!

[si]

In 40 years, expect the fly-bys to turn up in somebody’s attic. “I found them in a skip outside the BBC in the early 1990’s…”

[Danny Stephenson]

They should of popped the security tab on the cassette!

Someone at the BBC: OMG a bit of the video has fallen off, i’ll just use this bit of sellotape over the hole to stop water getting in…

FFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUU…..

[Jo]

Danny made me do a LOL! :o)

[pfm]

I remember thinking that maybe the BBC ‘couldn’t find them’ because they were gonna be used for a non-BBC production… Of course, if it was Worldwide that had them then they would have every incentive to dig them out, surely.

The reality could well have been someone (it’s always someone…) thinking ‘oh, they’ve been archived on the DVDs, so now we might as well dump em…’ You’d like to think not but…

[Mr-Stabby]

Would the models actually stand up to HD? They are great models, but i think an HD scan of them would show up their defects, i.e. the model kits stuck on afterwards, the different paint job, the lack of detail in places. Especially as the camera was so close to the models in most of the flybys.

[thomasaevans]

I say to you Mr-Stabby…. watch Moon. End of discussion.

[A Bailey]

It’s possible that some of the extremely close up shots might have some problems, but the majority of shots would be fucking glorious in HD.

[ChrisM]

Yeah. Model bits are designed to LOOK like bits of vehicle after all. As long as they’re utilised right they should look part of the ship.

[Mr-Stabby]

I have to admit, after just purchasing ‘The Next Level’ Bluray preview of Star Trek The Next Generation in HD, and seeing those ILM miniatures of the Enterprise in HD, i have to say i really am looking forward to seeing some HD models of Red Dwarf and Starbug. So SO much more realistic than CGI. Quite astonishing just how good those Enterprise beauty passes are in HD.

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