Red Dwarf: The Musical?

[Jawscvmcdia]

On the 3 June 2018 a trademark was submitted by Doug on the words: “Red Dwarf: The Musical”, “Red Dwarf: The Stage Show” and “Red Dwarf Live!”. The request was filed on the 3 June 2018 but withdrawn two days later. I wonder what this means?

https://trademarks.ipo.gov.uk/ipo-tmcase/page/Results/1/UK00003315087

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[Warbodog]

“Owner(s) name: Douglas Naylor”

If they do a musical, will Chris mime along to Howard Goodall?

[Dax101]

When it was cool to do Musical episodes back in the early 2000s (basically when buffy did it) i thought it would be interesting for them to do a musical episode… now it would feel like Dougs just biting off more then he can chew purely to do everything and anything with the show.

[bloodteller]

“They’re Dead Dave” could be turned into a pretty good song, I think.

[bloodteller]

honestly I think a Red Dwarf stage show could work if it was all a bit silly and sort of larking-about and having fun type thing. like Can’t Smeg Won’t Smeg. everyone having a good time and not taking it too seriously

[bloodteller]

hope to god the cast don’t have to dance if it is a musical though. what with their age and all somebody is going to break their back during tongue tied

[Dax101]

Doug has hinted he may get the cast/characters to do Tongue tied again for the stage show.

Not totally shocked giving the nostalgic pull Doug is going for lately.

But then Doug also said that the cast would be doing old scenes for the stage show aswell as newer ones. so basically somehow the stage show story will somehow get the characters back into old scenes again.

[bloodteller]

it’s Red Dwarf: Unplugged, then?

[Dax101]

Wasn’t red dwarf unplugged just gonna be the cast improvising old scenes? i believe the cast didn’t seem to keen on the improvising stuff. presumably this one is scripted this time

[Dave]

Rastabilly Skank: The Musical

[Taiwan Tony]

Red Dwarf: the Jerry Springer the Opera.

[Ridley]

What d’you mean, Red Dwarf cha cha cha?!

[Ian Symes]

That’s a cracking find, and a great contribution to the forum from… *squints* Jawscvmcdia?!

[Pete Part Three]

The problem with Red Dwarf : The Musical ™(Trademark applied for) was that it was a complete bollocks.

[Plastic Percy]

But why did he merge three stage show ideas into one trademark request?

[Bargain Bin Holly]

I hope it got withdrawn for a reason, a stage show is the last thing I’d like to see next.

[GlenTokyo]

As much as I’m thankful Dave brought Red Dwarf back, they’ll milk a success until the teats are puffing dust. A stage show and all that shite would be a step too far and assuming they still want it to be on TV aswell it’ll stretch Doug even thinner.

Look at Taskmaster. This past series was absolute wank. More episodes a series, more series a year and it suffered. They can do a stage show when they’re old and fucked, they can sit down and have it half play, half an evening with.

[Bargain Bin Holly]

A stage show and all that shite would be a step too far and assuming they still want it to be on TV aswell it’ll stretch Doug even thinner.

Ye, this.

It just seems like a waste of time and effort, I know Doug said something along the lines of he’ll probably adapt the stage play stories to the TV show. I’ve never liked most things to do with stage plays/stage musicals, so this heavily influences my opinion, but just do it on TV and if people want to see it at their own leisure they can buy the Blu-Ray or get Netflix. If you want to see Red Dwarf live, get tickets to be in the studio audience when the new series starts filming.

[Bargain Bin Holly]

A stage show and all that shite would be a step too far and assuming they still want it to be on TV aswell it’ll stretch Doug even thinner.

I may be slow, but I get there in the end.

[flanl3]

If you want to see Red Dwarf live, get tickets to be in the studio audience when the new series starts filming.

You make it sound so easy.

[bloodteller]

i think a stage show could be quite good, maybe.but there’s no real point in doing it. what next, a movie? a remake? a spinoff series? a puppet show?

it might be good, but i think just because it could be done it doesn’t mean it should. although presumably they did “can’t smeg won’t smeg” and “beat the geek” just because they could, and those were quite good.

[GlenTokyo]

You make it sound so easy.</blockquote

It probably would be easier. Assuming that it’ll be a one off, probably in a small to medium sized theatre in London which would sell out quickly.

If you live in Kentucky or something you’re probably fucked either way.

[GlenTokyo]

Bollocks

[Bargain Bin Holly]

what next, a movie? a remake? a spinoff series? a puppet show?

I think a movie could still work tbh, I at least want to see those movie drafts one day

[Bargain Bin Holly]

It probably would be easier. Assuming that it’ll be a one off, probably in a small to medium sized theatre in London which would sell out quickly.

If you live in Kentucky or something you’re probably fucked either way.

Ye this

[Plastic Percy]

Honestly, I don’t think Red Dwarf has the flexibility to be too much beyond a half-hour sitcom.

[GlenTokyo]

Someone like HBO would do wonders with The End/ Infinity Welcomes Careful Drivers. It wouldn’t be funny but it’d be great.

[Dax101]

>i think a stage show could be quite good, maybe.but there’s no real point in doing it. what next, a movie? a remake? a spinoff series? a puppet show?

It does seem like at times Doug just wants to explore every horizon with the show as possible just to see whether they can do it and whether its another above average success that makes above average profit.

I am all up for a video game. infact WHY DON’T WE HAVE A VIDEO GAME YET! but when it comes down to stage shows, cartoons, musicals, and spin offs i think it may go abit far.

Although it would be funny if after the show ends Doug is talking about his involvement with a remake ;p

[Dax101]

A movie doesn’t sound like a bad idea to me… Back to earth didn’t really help things but the idea of seeing Red Dwarf on the big screen with a film budget is kinda exciting. whether its abit too late for that now i don’t know but i am sure Doug would still happily make the same reboot movie with the current being in their 50s/60s and not really care.

[GlenTokyo]

A proper videogame with a story and everything would be the obvious way to go for my money but it’s not going to happen now, so expensive compared to the PS2 era and I think the entire industry is heading for a crash to be honest, the costs and the conditions for the programmers is ridiculous. I think the best we could hope for is a Bossa Studios made Red Dwarf VR game where you piss about in the bunkroom, reassemble Kryten, shoot polymorphs on a polymorph coconut shy and play unicycle polo.

VR games/experiences are cheaper to make.

[bloodteller]

well we already had the Red Dwarf XI- The Game. and that was a videogame

[bloodteller]

>A movie doesn’t sound like a bad idea to me… Back to earth didn’t really help things

i thought Back To Earth really helped things- if Doug can make something look that good on a shitty budget, imagine what a movie would look like in terms of visuals.

[Lily]

It probably would be easier. Assuming that it’ll be a one off, probably in a small to medium sized theatre in London which would sell out quickly.

Last interview I saw discussing a Live event Doug was saying he’d want a week at the O2 arena type event.

Can’t say I’d be first in line for a ticket though. I find Can’t Smeg Won’t Smeg a painful mess to watch. The guys might enjoy the feedback of a live audience when doing a normal show, but Chris especially seemed super uncomfortable having to just wing it for 30 minutes with no real script to follow.

Even if it is super tightly scripted, remembering lines has hardly been a strong point for half of them and increasing age can’t help with that problem.

Another TV series please sir.

[Dax101]

>i thought Back To Earth really helped things- if Doug can make something look that good on a shitty budget, imagine what a movie would look like in terms of visuals.

There are some nice visuals in BTE since they got a good effects guy and they were very careful with spending, but somehow BTE still feels tired to me.

The cast blame it on the fact that there is no audience but i don’t believe thats the issue for a moment.

[Ben Saunders]

BtE picks up as soon as they stop pretending it’s an audience sitcom and get on with the fucking made-for-TV short film. Basically as soon as Mother Russia turns up

[GlenTokyo]

Can’t see Dave paying for the O2 arena tbh. They’d have to charge £60 a ticket and I doubt if they charged a fiver enough would get there to fill it

Doug dreams big though, fair play.

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Red Dwarf would *definitely* sell out arenas. I don’t know why anyone is assuming it wouldn’t.

Look how fast the League of Gentlemen tickets went last December, and that’s a lot more niche in terms of ratings and fanbase.

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