RED DWARF vs STAR TREK QUIZ – tomorrow night

[Richey]

Come along and be part of either the Red Dwarf team or the Star Trek team. Great prizes up for grabs (apparently). Quiz starts at 5.00pm at Borders in the Bullring Shopping Centre, Birmingham. Should be a good laugh so come along if you can.

Topic

[Carlito]

I like the idea of fabulous prizes to be won, but I refuse to betray my family and friends.

[pfm]

Some potential questions –

Which has more decks, Red Dwarf or the Enterprise?

What is Uhura’s first name?

What is Rimmer’s full name? (that question never fails to appear FFS)

Including the new Abrams movie, how many times has the word ‘fascinating’ been used within Trek canon?

How many more films than Red Dwarf does Star Trek have?

In the Red Dwarf episode Better Than Life, what is the episode timecode at the beginning of the scene where the Dwarfers first appear on the beach?

Name every single episode featuring Q (including Voyager etc.).

In which Jim Carrey film is the Kirk/Spock duel to the death from Amok Time (TOS s02e01) parodied?

How many times is it possible for an adult male to ejaculate during a single sitting of The Best of Both Worlds pts. 1 (s03e26)& 2 (s04e01)?

Name the Associate Producer of the recent Red Dwarf special, Back To Earth. (isn’t it funny that this came to me just after a question about wanking)

Even though we don’t see him onscreen, which Heroes actor played young Kirk’s stepfather in the new Abrams movie?

Who has the better neural network, Data or Kryten?

What is better, Red Dwarf or Star Trek?

[JamesTC]

>What is better, Red Dwarf or Star Trek?

The questions need to be harder than that.

[pfm]

> The questions need to be harder than that.

What are the Physical Consequences of Perelman’s Proof of Thurston’s Geometrization Theorem? Can profound theoretical advances in understanding three dimensions be applied to construct and manipulate structures across scales to fabricate novel materials? And how does the Theorem apply to the method in which Spock created a no-win scenario in his programming of the Kobayashi Maru training excercise in JJ Abrams’s new movie? Oh and Red Dwarf.

[Kris ‘Drivaaar’ Carter]

What is your name? Quest? Favourite colour?

Damn, wrong franchise.

[SeeYouAtThePartyRichter]

Blue – no! ARRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHH …

[Ben Paddon]

Here’s one for you – how many times in its 21-year run has Red Dwarf directly referenced Star Trek?

And another: Which Star Trek television series shares several key elements with Red Dwarf?

[Dave]

>how many times in its 21-year run has Red Dwarf directly referenced Star Trek?

I think it’s six on telly: Backwards (the same generation), Bodyswap (Spock’s urine), The Last Day (“that Star Trek crap”), Camille (Tales of the Riverbank: The Next Generation), Tikka To Ride X-Tended (Voyager’s Title sequence flush) & Back To Earth Part Two (“that’s Star Trek”)

Infinity features a Captain Kirk.

I’m discounting the references to Starfleet.

>And another: Which Star Trek television series shares several key elements with Red Dwarf?

I suppose Voyager is the obvious answer: light years off course, accident in opening episode killing many crewmembers and a hologram.

But then TNG had over a thousand in the crew, an android and a cat.

[JamesTC]

>And another: Which Star Trek television series shares several key elements with Red Dwarf?

Star Trek TAS has a cat alien I think.

[Nakrophile]

I assumed it was TNG given Patrick Stewart’s aborted phone call to his lawyer.

[Pete Part Three]

It’s quite obviously DS9, which starred Terry Farrell.

[Ben Paddon]

The answer is Voyager.

[Kris ‘Drivaaar’ Carter]

Light years from Earth, hologram main character, female computer… uhm… modelwork later replaced with CGI… probably more… maybe?

[Ben Paddon]

Tom Paris is also fairly analogous of Lister. Like Lister, he just seems to want to bum around and have a laugh despite the woeful predicament the ship finds itself in.

[Dave]

>Star Trek TAS has a cat alien I think

Yep

[JamesTC]

Plus you know both Dwarf and Voyager had a hologram.

[Carlito]

Why did Patrick Stewart even consider calling his lawyer? Besides the fact that Red Dwarf was originally conceived before TNG ever hit the screen (okay, he almost certainly wasn’t to know that), what was he; the creator, writer, producer and director of TNG or summat?

[Andrew]

It’s almost as if the ‘calling my lawyer’ story is some kind of comic exaggeration.

[Carlito]

He seemed pretty serious to me.

[Ian Symes]

He seemed like he was reading the story for the first time off an autocue to me.

[Dave]

>He seemed like he was reading the story for the first time off an autocue to me.

Onscreen.

[Ben Paddon]

I can only imagine how that phone call with his Lawyer might have gone, had it happened.

“Hello, Duie, Cheatem and Livingston, how may I direct your call?”
“I AM CAPTAIN JEAN-LUC PICARD OF THE FEDERATION STARSHIP ENTERPRISE.”
“Yes. Right. One moment.”
[Hold music]
“Patrick! Hi, Jeff Cheatem here.”
“I AM CAPTAIN JEAN-LUC PICARD OF THE FED–“
“Yes, yes, very nice. What can I do for you?”
“I have been monitoring media frequences in this Quadrant…”
“You mean Shoreham.”
“Yes, the Shoreham Quadrant. And I have come across a transmission on your Bee Bee See Two that seems to be plagiarizing several key aspects of my own adventures aboard the FEDERATION STARSHIP ENTERPRISE.”
“Alright, Pat. Calm down. Let’s have a look. [Fzzt] Oh, this is Red Dwarf.”
“Yes.”
“Started in 1988.”
“I am unfamiliar with human history during this period, but yes.”
“Which is, I don’t know, about year before The Next Generation began airing.”
“Right. So get it off the air. It contravenes Federation Directive 62948.”
“62948? ‘Anyone caught using the Captain’s Yacht to host sexy parties will be immediately discharged without trial’?”
“Oh, wait, no. Something has happened on the screen to make me laugh. And… I’ve got it. I’ve got the joke, and I immediately get what the show is about.”
“What?”
“Make it so, evasive maneuvers, Tea Earl Grey Hot, Engage!” [click]
“…What a strange man.”

[Pete Part Three]

TNG began in 1987.

[Carlito]

So would Red Dwarf have, were it not for strikes. Plus it was written in about 1984, wasn’t it?

[Pete Part Three]

Which is nice, but you’re questioning the validity of Patrick Stewart’s (jokey) anecdote, not whether it truly was a rip-off.

So, Pat sits down to watch The End (“a new show”) in February 1988. (he didn’t really). And then he sees the similarities and, understandably, assumes that, since this is a new show, it must have been created before TNG (he didn’t really) as TNG has already been airing for a few months. He thinks it’s a rip-off (he didn’t really). He considers phoning his lawyer (he didn’t really).

It’s not completely unlikely but, to reiterate, it is just a story.

[Dave]

Make it sue

[Danny Stephenson]

Make it sue

Nice one.

[pfm]

More like ‘make it stop’.

[Nakrophile]

> ?Make it so, evasive maneuvers, Tea Earl Grey Hot, Engage!?

This made me go haha inside.

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