Something that’s always bugged me about Tikka To Ride…

[Carlito]

No doubt this has been touched upon (or even extensively debated) on here in the past…. but if the crew has a drive to propell them through both time and space, and they end up on Earth in Dallas, when they finish sorting out the ramifications of their actions (re: JFK), why didn’t they just stay on Earth?

I mean, I thought this was the clearly established objective of the entire show? They were on Earth, and had the ability to move through time. They could have moved forward to the date that Lister originally left Earth, or even three million years to the ‘current day’… Either way, why not just stay, rather than head back to the troublesome sticky situation of being stranded in deep space, with little in the way of supplies or defence against threats?

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[Andrew]

CAT
So let me get this straight: time has returned to the point before we
discovered the Time Drive, right? So what’s to stop us going back on board
the Gemini 12 and picking it up all over again?

RIMMER
We have to avoid all forms of time travel; it’s the only way of breaking
our destiny line and ensuring we don’t end up like our future selves.

[Carlito]

So? They still could have stayed on Earth. That was the objective for Lister. Fiji was still there, and they could have lived out the rest of their lives inconspicuously and in peace, and probably be dead by the time it flooded. Happy days.

[Carlito]

Plus the entire fact that by picking up the time drive again, they undid all the good work of the previous episode, because by picking up the time drive, they were again capable of becoming the future selves they had destroyed when Rimmer blew up the time drive.

[Carlito]

Sorry, I mean when the past crew blew up the time drive… I think. :S

Anyway by that principle, if by killing their past selves, the future crew never existed to be able to kill themselves in the first place, how come JFK did exactly the same thing successfully in the same episode?

[Carlito]

Don’t get me wrong, it’s my favourite VII episode, these are small gripes in the grand scheme of things, but it’s as if at some point Lister’s mission changed because he had achieved what he set out to do, and still returned to Starbug.

[Ridley]

Anyway by that principle, if by killing their past selves, the future crew never existed to be able to kill themselves in the first place, how come JFK did exactly the same thing successfully in the same episode?

Something to do with Jeff Kay not destroying the means with which he travelled back in time in the past and unstable reality from merged “dimensions” possibly. Maybe. A bit.

[Pete Part Three]

>Anyway by that principle, if by killing their past selves, the future crew never existed to be able to kill themselves in the first place, how come JFK did exactly the same thing successfully in the same episode?

Shhh. Sleep now.

[pfm]

Lister liking and only eating curry was funny UP UNTIL this episode.

[hummingbird]

>Don?t get me wrong, it?s my favourite VII episode

It’s the only VII ep that stands up to repeated viewing, if you ask me.

Despite it’s gaping plot holes and contradictions, and the fact that it isn’t nearly as funny as it could have been, I still like Tikka. I wish that they had continued in this direction – more comedy drama than sit-com.
I know the ratings, for VIII especially, are against me, but Dwarf was certainly due for a makeover at the time and going in that direction would have been infinitely preferable to what they gave us.
Just imagine what they could have done had they gone in the same direction as new Who.

But the bit that *really* bugs me about Tikka is the tug-of-war with Lee Harvey Oswald – he’s in the same freakin’ room, how the hell can they not see him?

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[Ben Paddon]

*chloroforms neadercarl*

[Phil]

*chloroforms Ben’s lips*
*makes him kiss neandercarl*

[Ben Paddon]

I’d complain about this, but I’m unconscious.

[Carlito]

Good kiss! Bit sloppy…

[Carlito]

oodles of Tommy Tongue, though, which was nice

[Ben Paddon]

A line of dialogue from the partially-filmed but ultimately aborted Red Dwarf/Fast Show crossover, there.

[Carlito]

I’ve seen it… and it’s spectacular.

[Carlito]

I especially liked the scenes where Lister explained to Kryten that telling a lie was a lot like making love to a beautfiul woman, and the Holly “does my head look big in this?” running gag. Gold.

[peas_and_corn]

Save this for the red dwarf spoilers thread, guys.

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