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  • #224601
    Renegade Rob
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    Over this past weekend, I’ve been processing the reveal of the Series XII flipside cover. As someone who likes consistency but also wants each series to have their own identity, I’ve been trying to figure out how I feel about the color. The pale red bunkroom and pale blue Starbug cockpit made perfect sense for X and XI, but the fact that the Science Room for XII, despite being an obvious choice, still nags at me a bit, so I’ve created this post more as a sounding board to help me work out how I come down on this very important issue.

    I really want each series to feel like it’s own distinct entity with its own identity, and up until now, they have. But let’s face it: the military blue Science Room XII cover is a little close to the ocean blue of the Starbug cockpit XI cover, so that’s 2 pale-blues in a row. Granted, they’re slightly different shades, with XII having more than a dash of light purple. But it’s the equivalent of making Series IV the officers Bunkroom and Series V the old III-V Science Room: same color scheme because of similar production design. If they had made XII yellow with the new Science Room at Yellow Alert, that would’ve been great. Or they could have, as I thought they might do, made XII pale-green with the Starbug 19 interior and echo the pattern of the original 6, so that a Series XIII cover would be even paler beige and so on.
    As it is, two light blues in a row, leaves me a little cold.

    But then I did some more thinking about the cover (What better way is there to spend a Sarurday night?), and the thought occurred that part of XII’s identity is the fact that it’s of a pair with XI. Thet were commissioned together, written together, share sets and even moved scenes, and were basically filmed together. This sort of was one long series split over two, more than possible any pair of series before. Now true, XII is, give or take a Timewave, way better than XI overall, as almost certainly it built off the momentum established by XI to be more bold and confident.

    In that light, it makes some deal of sense to have XI and XII be similar colors, because much of their identity is the fact that they’re intrinsically linked. Like those weird quasi-two-parters from Series 9 of Doctor Who. So I think I’m coming down on the side of “I get it and can live with it” but would have preferred something a little more distinct.

    Thoughts?

    #224602
    bloodteller
    Blocked

    yeah

    #224603

    Until BtE gets re-released with a reversed cover I’m having all my Dave era ones the ‘correct’ way around. So… yeah.

    #224605
    Renegade Rob
    Participant

    That… actually makes a lot of sense.

    #224612
    Rubber
    Participant

    Right but it still has all four of them rather than just Rimming and Fister like the others which is completely aaaaarrrrrggggghhhh.

    #224616
    bloodteller
    Blocked

    back to earth didn’t have just Rimming and Fister on the DVD cover

    #224617
    Rubber
    Participant

    Is there a reversible BtE cover?! Show me!

    #224618
    Rubber
    Participant

    Although I imagine it will be calling itself ‘Red Dwarf IX’ or some such thing.

    #224626
    GlenTokyo
    Participant

    I made this one a while back, but it’s for Region 1, and I can’t remember if I finished the Region 2 one before I had a technical laptop shitting the bed issue</img>

    #224638

    I’ve seen a few BtE ones, but getting a nice printout, cutting it, putting it in a purchased DVD case, and then storing the other BtE case somewhere else is a lot more effort than bitching about a lack of official one here.

    #224649
    bloodteller
    Blocked

    well Back To Earth isn’t really a full series, is it? so it wouldn’t have the normal cover to match all the others.

    what i usually do to get around it is have my I-VIII and X-XI DVDs on my shelf all neatly next to each other in a row, and then i just chuck Back to Earth elsewhere on the shelf, usually sandwiched between Ghostbusters and Bottom Live 5.

    #224651
    Renegade Rob
    Participant

    At some point I scratched my Series III DVD and had to order another one. So what I ended up doing was putting my BTE discs in the old Series III case and switched out the cover with a Series IX cover I made on photoshop. It’s not perfect but it does the trick, seamlessly connecting 1-8 with X and beyond.

    #224655
    Ben Saunders
    Participant

    Do you think they’ll ever do a Just The Shows II eventually, and will it contain BtE?

    #224659

    what i usually do to get around it is have my I-VIII and X-XI DVDs on my shelf all neatly next to each other in a row

    You have a shelf of Red Dwarf DVDs that go I II III IV V VI VII VIII X XI? You are sick.

    Do you think they’ll ever do a Just The Shows II eventually, and will it contain BtE?

    I reckon after XIV we’ll get a Just The Daves box.

    #224660
    Rubber
    Participant

    Home made covers ????

    #224672
    flanl3
    Participant

    You have a shelf of Red Dwarf DVDs that go I II III IV V VI VII VIII X XI? You are sick.

    You like a show that goes I II III IV V VI VII VIII X XI XII? That is sick.

    #224686
    Pete Part Three
    Participant

    This goes up to XI.

    Ah, damn. XII now.

    Joke ruined.

    #224692
    Flap Jack
    Participant

    Back to Earth being the only main series DVD spine that doesn’t match is a constant, very mild annoyance, but I still prefer to use the reversible covers over the standard ones. And I can’t countenance putting Back to Earth at the beginning or the end of the row – it’s just not chronological!

    In theory I agree with the “Back to Earth isn’t a proper series” idea, but in practice Dave/GNP insisted on calling the next series of Red Dwarf “Series X” so there’s no good in trying to argue that BtE isn’t Series 9.

    Random thought: for those of you who have it, where do you put The Bodysnatcher Collection on your DVD shelf?

    #224693
    Dave
    Participant

    Back To Earth definitely *is* the ninth series of Red Dwarf, speaking literally.

    It’s just not called “Series 9”.

    (Or “Series IX”.)

    #224694
    bloodteller
    Blocked

    >Back to Earth being the only main series DVD spine that doesn’t match is a constant, very mild annoyance, but I still prefer to use the reversible covers over the standard ones. And I can’t countenance putting Back to Earth at the beginning or the end of the row – it’s just not chronological!

    just bung it on the other end of your shelf, maybe?

    #224697

    As ever, the French DVD of it calls it series IX. Therefore, it’s IX.

    #224705
    si
    Participant

    Random thought: for those of you who have it, where do you put The Bodysnatcher Collection on your DVD shelf?

    My RD DVD shelf:

    #224712

    I enjoy X, but four copies?!

    #224723
    si
    Participant

    I like shiny things.

    #224724
    bloodteller
    Blocked

    where’d you get the US Pilot dvd?

    #224726
    si
    Participant

    It’s a VCD that someone copied for me. Not great quality. Drew the sleeve myself.

    #224728
    flanl3
    Participant

    Is it really series IX? Apart from the fact that it’s not, it’s not really even a series. If somebody asks me about the seasons of BoJack Horseman, I’m not going to go “Well there was season 1, the second season which was the Horsin’ Around credits, then season 3 which was the Christmas special, then the fourth season which they called season 2 and the fifth which they called season 3, then finally the sixth season which they called season 4.”

    Not everything has to be a season, and I am permanently annoyed with whomever designed that French cover.

    #224729
    Dave
    Participant

    It is literally a series of three episodes. So yes, it is the ninth series of Red Dwarf. But that doesn’t make it ‘series IX’.

    #224738
    Ben Saunders
    Participant

    I thought calling it Series X was a meta joke because I’m BtE Noddy calls Series IX the “best series ever”, and it would be funny if we never got to see it…

    Except he actually calls Series Ten the best series ever, which is a complete and total utter fucking shambles and I don’t know what they were thinking

    #224739
    bloodteller
    Blocked

    no he doesn’t

    #224741
    cwickham
    Participant

    The series before Back to Earth was VIII and the series after it was X. Therefore, Back to Earth is IX.

    #224743
    Ben Paddon
    Participant

    One day – some far off distant time way into the future which I hope to live long enough to see – people will stop arguing about whether or not the ninth series of Red Dwarf episodes should be called “series nine” or not.

    #224749

    it’s not really even a series

    Dictionary:

    a set or sequence of related television or radio programmes.

    It’s a fucking series.

    Miniseries probably works, but it’s still a series. Sherlock series are only three episodes long. Series 1 & 2 of The Thick of It were only three episodes long.

    #224750

    Anyone baffled by BtE being a series shouldn’t look at the episode listings for A Touch of Frost, they’ll get ill:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_A_Touch_of_Frost_episodes#Episodes

    #224755
    Ben Saunders
    Participant

    Oh fucking hell, ignore my previous post, he does actually say “season nine” was the best season ever, hence the joke does work.

    I’m putting it down to the Mandela Effect, because I definitely heard him say “ten” on the docco.

    Also what kind of prick says “season” when referring to a British show and actually being British himself

    #224757
    Dave
    Participant

    Imagine my confusion some years back when I started watching the new Battlestar Galactica from the start of season 1, and soon realised there had been a previous series before that, which I should have watched first.

    #224761
    si
    Participant

    Who was it – Craig? Doug? – who suggested that series ten should be subtitled ‘The Hunt for Series Nine’?

    #224763
    Seb Patrick
    Keymaster

    >Also what kind of prick says “season” when referring to a British show and actually being British himself

    Every Doctor Who fan for twenty-six years, for a start.

    #224765
    Ben Saunders
    Participant

    It’s seasons of Classic Who, but series of New Who, and of Red Dwarf. I’m not sure why old Who is in seasons, might have something to do with The Sixties, either way hearing “season” is just one of those things that really grates with me, like people calling films “movies”… which is another thing Red Dwarf does. It’s just so American

    #224766
    flanl3
    Participant

    a set or sequence of related television or radio programmes.

    Looking two lines later in this google definition lists “program” and “show” as synonyms, so this definition quite literally does refer to a whole show, not a British season equivalent.

    Seeing as I don’t think this is getting resolved unless Doug himself speaks on it, I do have an interesting other question: what would we be fighting about if the first series after BtE had been entitled series IX?

    #224770
    Flap Jack
    Participant

    That’s a fine shelf you have there, Si. Mine goes Series I-VIII, Beat the Geek, Bodysnatcher, Back to Earth, Series X-XII (i.e. strict release order). I figured that BtE already screwed up the spine continuity, so why not?

    On the subject of BtE, if Doug wanted the name of the first full Dave series to complete the joke of there being missing series, he should have called Series X “Series XI”. But he lost his bottle!

    Of course if the first Dave series was Series IX, then we would have all been happy to regard Back to Earth as a wholly non-numbered special. But that isn’t what happened.

    Yes, this is definitely important enough to warrant lengthy discussion.

    #224772
    Ben Saunders
    Participant

    My DVD shelf goes Just The Shows, BtE, X, XI :(

    #224774

    Look at this loser ^^

    #224776
    Ali Green
    Participant

    My DVDs are ordered I-VIII, X-XII, BtE, Bodysnatcher, Beat The Geek. My OCD still isn’t happy about putting BtE out of running order but I hate it so much that I don’t even consider it canon.

    I had the same feeling about the XII DVD being so similar in colour to XI, my way of accepting this is that XI and XII were both filmed back to back, but I really would have preferred a different colour perhaps the yellow alert science room or something with a pale green in keeping with the I, II and II colours.

    Also no mention of Norman being on the spine for a second time? I would have much preferred it to have continued the pattern of having a guest star on there, Talkie Toaster or the M-Corp lady maybe? Also I believe this is the only spine with black writing which is just bloody annoying compared to the rest! Very tempted to flip the reversible covers for X, XI and XII to the main covers so I can put I-XII in chronological order!?

    #224780
    Lily
    Participant

    I don’t have a shelf as I’m sorta homeless, but this is my box

    View post on imgur.com

    #224781
    Dave
    Participant

    Ooh, you need to get the SPACED boxset for the third disc. It’s worth it.

    #224787
    Lily
    Participant

    In hindsight I should have curated that a little more before posting. I’ve not even watched the second disc of Spaced – only watched the first few shows and didn’t really ‘get’ it. I had to rummage through another box to find Beat the Geek, another disc that’s never been out the box.

    I seem to be the only one leaving X and XI with their original covers. I didn’t like the way the pattern was repeating, BtE causes a break anyway, and I feel the Dave era -isn’t- the same as the original DVD releases so there’s no point in even attempting to be cohesive.

    #224789
    si
    Participant

    My RD:USA cover.

    Ooh, you need to get the SPACED boxset for the third disc. It’s worth it.

    The 2010 Dutch boxsets have a new commentary track. Which is nice.

    #224791
    Ben Saunders
    Participant

    Yeah Lily, seeing them all together like that, I-VIII definitely look like one cohesive unit, and adding to that would just make it look a bit awkward, with the Red Dwarf logo all off to one side. The spilt makes sense, honestly

    #224792
    bloodteller
    Blocked

    you’re right i suppose- the way i have my DVDs lined up means the Red Dwarf logo is off to the left, which will only look even more weird once XII’s dvd comes out

    #224801
    Dave
    Participant

    The 2010 Dutch boxsets have a new commentary track. Which is nice.

    Didn’t the US set have different commentary tracks too (I’m sure I remember reading somewhere that they’d actually got Tarantino on to do a track for at least one of the episodes)?

    Does Spaced win the award for the sitcom with the highest number of alternate commentary tracks?

    #224803
    flanl3
    Participant

    In the US, we never got reversible covers on the new ones, but at least as consolation we don’t have to have that ugly straight-up-and-down massive season number on the side.

    #224804
    flanl3
    Participant

    Well, except for X.

    #224807

    I seem to be the only one leaving X and XI with their original covers.

    #224808

    Despite the odd issue with the reversible covers, I’m really glad they’re doing them though. They didn’t have to, but it’s a really nice thing to do for fans who’ll appreciate them.

    The only one better is the Doctor Who team, who started doing reversible covers as soon as the BBC logo changed and their classic range spines looked ever so slightly different to the earlier ones. The difference wasn’t dramatic, but they did them anyway, knowing that the show has a fanbase that would appreciate the whole collection being correctly aligned.

    Compare that with almost any other TV show, with which the DVD sleeve designs are all over the place.

    #224814
    Lily
    Participant

    Even on the original 8 it bugs me how they made 4 unique spines, then clearly went ‘fuck it’ and copy/pasted the spine in appropriate colours for the rest.

    Shame the Dave ones can’t even line up the main logos though.

    #224821

    Yeah, the shape of the paint markings on VII and VIII have always looked bloody awful.

    #224822
    Lily
    Participant

    It’s the same paint mark on 5 & 6, the edge is just hidden behind the logo.

    #224825

    Yeah, I think that they’re hidden means I can look at them fine. But that repeating jagged shape is so glaringly obvious.

    #224827
    si
    Participant

    I seem to be the only one leaving X and XI with their original covers.

    That’s why I both both the BluRay and the DVD. Original Bluray covers, reverse the DVD sleeves.
    Also, I like to have things. Hence the two additional RDX Steelbooks.

    #224828
    si
    Participant

    Although I haven’t got the XI steelbook yet, have I? Or the BtE bluray. Tch.

    #225408
    GlenTokyo
    Participant

    BtE isn’t series IX in the same way that the Star Wars Holiday Special isn’t Star Wars Episode V.

    A stand alone, basically a pilot for Dave that we also got to see, it served a purpose but it’s not IX, it’s not even a series really. It’s meant to be one episode. You could call it a mini series I suppose but anyway, being called Back To Earth shows you that it’s not IX, otherwise it’d be called IX wouldn’t it?

    #225409
    Dave
    Participant

    BtE isn’t series IX in the same way that the Star Wars Holiday Special isn’t Star Wars Episode V.

    That analogy would make more sense if The Empire Strikes Back had been billed as Episode VI when it came out.

    #225412
    GlenTokyo
    Participant

    But Series IX is a thing in canon isn’t it? (as much as you can take Red Dwarf canon as reliable), it’s just we haven’t seen it, we know that it’s a transition series between VIII and the Dave era, maybe one day we’ll get a novel about it if not a series.

    #225413
    bloodteller
    Blocked

    i’d rather not see anything connected to VIII ever again

    #225414
    Ben Paddon
    Participant

    Series IX and X are technically things “in canon”, but that has exactly zero bearing on the real world. You’ll note nobody has shot Cliff Richard as of yet.

    BTE is the ninth-produced series of episodes of Red Dwarf. It is followed by a series referred to by Series X, and itself follows Series VIII. Though we may not call it IX, it is the ninth series, and we need to just let that ghost lie. We’ve long since moved past debating whether there are raisins or chocolate chips and are arguing over whether or not the thing is a fucking cookie or not.

    #225415
    si
    Participant

    You’ll note nobody has shot Cliff Richard as of yet.

    My sister hasn’t got a gun.

    #225416
    GlenTokyo
    Participant

    Can 1 episode be a series? As written and as best presented it’s just the one, what would we do then? Advertising is the problem.

    I don’t see why it needs to be referred to as anything but Back to Earth to be honest, it’s only 3 syllables.

    #225417
    flanl3
    Participant

    I don’t see why it needs to be referred to as anything but Back to Earth to be honest, it’s only 3 syllables.

    Same as “Red Dwarf Ix,” and more verifiably accurate.

    #225418
    bloodteller
    Blocked

    Back To Earth is Back To Earth though

    #225421
    Ben Paddon
    Participant

    I agree, Back to Earth is absolutely Back to Earth. It’s not Series IX. But it is the ninth series of Red Dwarf, in the same way that there isn’t technically a series I and II, but we do have a first and second series of the show.

    #225422
    Dave
    Participant

    Exactly.

    #225423
    Seb Patrick
    Keymaster

    Why isn’t there technically a Series I and II?

    #225424
    bloodteller
    Blocked

    i think there is a Series I and II, isn’t there? it’s on my shelf, im sure of it

    #225426
    Dave
    Participant

    That technically isn’t your shelf.

    #225427
    Richietee
    Participant

    I love seeing how everyone displays thier DVD collection in an odd way!
    Here’s a pre-XI/XII photo of my Red Dwarf shelf

    I used the custom “Series IX” cover just for uniformity and the rest are customs

    #225428
    Richietee
    Participant

    Also there is not a single bonus feature on the USA bootleg let alone 3 hours! I just wanted to put some “Bonus Material” text on the cover

    #225429
    Seb Patrick
    Keymaster

    I’d have called the main pilot the feature and the promo the Bonus Feature, to get around that.

    #225430
    Seb Patrick
    Keymaster

    >i think there is a Series I and II, isn’t there? it’s on my shelf, im sure of it

    Basically, there’s a long-running G&T argument that the first two series aren’t referred to by Roman numerals, because that way of naming the show only came in with Series III. As such, they’ve always been pedantically referred to around here as “Series 1” and “Series 2”.

    I have never agreed with this, because Roman numerals have been used for the first two series ever since the VHS releases. And the DVD spines refer to them as “Series I” and “Series II”. Whereas I’ve never seen “Series 1” and “Series 2” used in any official context, anywhere.

    #225431
    Ben Saunders
    Participant

    Fucking hell, that’s right up there with the pillocks who refuse to refer to the original Star Wars as “a new hope” or “episode IV” despite not even being born before Return of the Jedi.

    Like people will rank them “Empire > Star Wars > Jedi”

    #225432
    Ben Saunders
    Participant

    The tone of that post makes it seem like every time I see someone refer to Episode IV as Star Wars I break out in a cold sweat and grind my teeth but it’s not that extreme

    #225433
    Dave
    Participant

    Also, John Hurt’s War Doctor means that all subsequent Doctors must now be referred to by different numbers than they were previously known as.

    #225434
    Dave
    Participant

    Anyway, I think the easiest way to solve the Back To Earth dilemma is to acknowledge that there are some undisputed facts about the name of the series, but that what you call it really comes down to personal choice.

    So:

    – It is the ninth series of episodes of Red Dwarf.
    – It has never been referred to officially as Series IX or Series 9.
    – The two series either side of it are series VIII and series X.
    – The official name of the series is Back To Earth.

    Given that we should all be able to agree on those things, who really cares whether we refer to it as Series IX or BTE or whatever in casual conversation or on homemade DVD labels. We all know what we’re talking about.

    Like the numbering of the Doctors, it only becomes an issue if overly-pedantic fans decide to make it one.

    #225435
    Richietee
    Participant

    >I’d have called the main pilot the feature and the promo the Bonus Feature, to get around that.

    Bah! that’s a great idea really wish I’d done that now! :)

    #225436
    bloodteller
    Blocked

    >Fucking hell, that’s right up there with the pillocks who refuse to refer to the original Star Wars as “a new hope” or “episode IV” despite not even being born before Return of the Jedi.
    Like people will rank them “Empire > Star Wars > Jedi”

    this just makes me think of that old joke from back when the Phantom Menace came out about how the Empire Strikes Back was now the fifth of the four Star Wars films

    #225439

    – It has never been referred to officially as Series IX or Series 9.

    Shall I bring up the French DVD again?

    #225440
    Dave
    Participant

    By all means. I think you’ll find that refers to it as ‘Saison IX’, so the statement is accurate.

    #225443
    Ben Saunders
    Participant

    >Also, John Hurt’s War Doctor means that all subsequent Doctors must now be referred to by different numbers than they were previously known as.

    Nah because he wasn’t the Doctor, except he was, but no one called him that, except when they did, because he was a horrible person, except he wasn’t, who did terrible things, until he didn’t. Clear?

    #225444
    flanl3
    Participant

    – It is the ninth series of episodes of Red Dwarf.

    No, it’s one episode that was split up into three parts for the broadcast, wasn’t it?

    #225446
    Dave
    Participant

    No, it’s one part that was split into three episodes.

    #225448
    Ben Saunders
    Participant

    Well, is Back in the Red one episode? Is Pete? Was BtE really just split into three episodes seemingly at random, or was consideration given to structure and breaks, etc? I think it was the latter, given the delete bunk scene originally intended for part three. Therefore, it was made into three episodes and broadcast as such, with the director’s cut coming later.

    It is both one episode and three episodes.

    #225451
    flanl3
    Participant

    The idea with Back to Earth was that it was meant to be continuous with the director’s cut to be the definitive version, whereas with Back in the Red and Pete the plan with those, upon broadcast, was to leave those as the definitive versions, and they only combined three parts into the one for the DVD, if I’m not mistaken about all of this. Which I very well could be.

    #225452

    Anyway, as per my Frost link above, some shows have ‘series’ that consist of one episode. Given that BtE was broadcast and released on DVD as three separate episodes, it’s a bloody series. Given that it came between VIII and X, and no other material has been called series IX, it’s the ninth series. Given that all the other series are generally referred to by Roman numerals, and some people like continuity in what they say and write, it’s not an absurd leap to call it series IX.

    Anybody who genuinely thinks that is an issue needs a smack.

    #225454
    pfm
    Participant

    I remember Doug or one of the cast mentioning ‘series nine’ so that’s good enough for me. :p

    Also it IS ‘1’ and ‘2’ because they never had an official title, as opposed to the proceeding series’ which were actually known as ‘Red Dwarf III’ etc. technically all of them are ‘3’ ‘4’ etc. but people use the numerals for III onwards cause it was the actual title. Video releases MAY retcon that but whatever it’s still….a bone of contention (i.e. WRONG :p).

    New Doctor Who is officially classed as a different show to the classic series (granted, this is probably solely due to boring stuff like rights renegotiations etc.), so it is and always will be wrong to call it ‘season 27’ and on, despite the fact people continue to do so.

    fuck anyone in the face three times who disagrees bellend pricks suck

    #225455
    Dave
    Participant

    Scoff all you want, but I’m greatly enjoying series 1,693 of Eastenders this week.

    #225456
    Seb Patrick
    Keymaster

    Also it IS ‘1’ and ‘2’ because they never had an official title, as opposed to the proceeding series’ which were actually known as ‘Red Dwarf III’ etc. technically all of them are ‘3’ ‘4’ etc. but people use the numerals for III onwards cause it was the actual title.

    Wellllll only Series III uses “Red Dwarf III” onscreen – none of Series IV, V or VI do so. So is “Red Dwarf IV” any more correct than “Red Dwarf I”? Only if you give the Radio Times listing more authority than the onscreen title card.

    And even if you are going by the Radio Times argument, the “Red Dwarf [Numeral]” discussion is entirely separate from the “Series [Numeral]” discussion. I can understand doing this:

    Red Dwarf (series 1)
    Red Dwarf (series 2)
    Red Dwarf III
    Red Dwarf IV
    Red Dwarf V
    … etc

    … although I wouldn’t do it myself. But I can’t see any justifiable basis for this:

    Red Dwarf Series 1
    Red Dwarf Series 2
    Red Dwarf Series III
    Red Dwarf Series IV
    Red Dwarf Series V
    … etc

    … since, unless anyone wants to correct me, the first time “Series [Numeral]” was officially used to designate the series was on the DVD releases. And in that instance, they all used numerals.

    #225457
    Ben Saunders
    Participant

    Now this is the kind of anality I signed up to this site for

    #225458
    Dave
    Participant

    since, unless anyone wants to correct me, the first time “Series [Numeral]” was officially used to designate the series was on the DVD releases.

    Interestingly (no, really), the Red Dwarf Remastered VHS release of all three series refers to ‘Series I-III’, and predates the DVDs.

    The individual Remastered VHS releases refer to ‘Series One’, ‘Series Two’ and ‘Series Three’ though, without numerals.

    #225459
    Dave
    Participant

    Oh, and the VHS releases of the original unremastered series are labelled ‘Red Dwarf I’ etc., although not ‘Red Dwarf Series I’.

    #225460
    cwickham
    Participant

    Apart from “Backwards” using “Series III” in the Star Wars crawl, the only other series to have the Roman numeral onscreen are the ones from after Rob left. I wonder if this was something Doug was particularly keen on? I wonder what the impetus for marketing the first series in over three years with a giant “VII” was?

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