Dave’s Red Dwarf Weekends: VII Edits

viicuts

Hi babes. Welcome to the second of our LONG-AWAITED – yes, LONG-AWAITED – series of analysing edits UKTV have made to Red Dwarf. Yesterday we took a look at Red Dwarf VIII; today, it’s the turn of VII, as shown pre-watershed on Sunday 9th September. ENJOY IT YOU SCUM, ENJOY IT OR I WILL HAVE YOU KILLED.

Firstly, however, please indulge me with an aside about the fascinating topic of break bumpers. Saturday’s showing of VIII was fairly standard in this regard; it simply used a shot of the ship going into and out of the breaks. (Admittedly, it was the WRONG ship – the 1-VII version, not the VIII model – and it generally looked a bit awkward, but you can’t have everything.) However, VII was broadcast with a complete mishmash. Stoke Me a Clipper, Ouroboros, Blue, Epideme, and Nanarchy used a shot of Red Dwarf itself, as per the VIII showings, whilst Duct Soup and Beyond A Joke transmitted with no break bumpers at all. Tikka to Ride, meanwhile? Well, they used this:

Old Red Dwarf VII bumper

Actually a lovely, if old, design. And totally inconsistent with every other episode! (At least it didn’t have a UKG2 logo on the bottom…)

Now yes, I know the general audience won’t care about what break bumpers, if any, are used. But that’s not the point: the point is, it’s symptomatic of the generally crappy scheduling and transmission that is all over Dave like a rash. So little care is put into things like this, and it’s shameful for what is now one of Dave’s biggest properties. Slapped together with no thought. Pathetic. Even worse, Beyond a Joke managed to snip off the last word from Lister’s line going into the break. It all combines to make the channel look bloody awful.

(For the record, I would have snipped out the break bumpers entirely, and just had each segment have a tasteful fade to black. Reason? The gorgeous shots of the Red Dwarf X ship with the launch date over them which were transmitting that weekend already served as lovely little bumpers in their own right.)

Anyway, onto the edits. For VIII, only three shows were edited in some way; for VII, the total is five episodes: only Duct Soup, Blue, and Beyond a Joke were left completely intact. The irony that two of those episodes are widely considered to be the worst in the series is very much not lost on me.

Tikka To Ride

1) The end of the scene with a newly guilt-free Kryten was snipped; “So uptight!”, and the accompanying gulping of large amounts of alcohol are gone. Presumably due to the usual worries of imitable behaviour. Don’t want the show to be responsible for any dead kids, do we?

2) The following dialogue from when the Dwarfers first arrive in Dallas:

KRYTEN: That is not a giant pizza, sir.
LISTER: It’s eight foot across, man – don’t you think that’s giant? What kind of pizza house have you been going to? [The FatBasteria?
CAT: Hey, look at this! I think we just pulled the gunman out of the window!]

AGENT: FBI! Drop the gun!

3) Really not sure this cut from Kryten’s EXPOSITION-O-GRAM was necessary:

KRYTEN: President Kennedy was impeached in 1964 for sharing a mistress with Mafia boss, Sam Giancana. It was the biggest scandal in American history. Kennedy was sentenced to three years in an open prison in July, ’65. J. Edgar Hoover became president; he was forced to run by the mob, [who had pictures of him at a transvestite orgy.]
LISTER: So America had a president controlled by the Mafia?

Stoke Me a Clipper

4) The following cut from Lister’s jaunt to AR, purely to cut a shot of a shaking tent, of all things. (Which reminds me: the sex starts awfully fast, doesn’t it? Lister clearly made the Queen fucking soaking. Maybe he yelled out LUBEYCHEAT or something.)

KING: If he that calls himself Lister of Smeg has a grain of honour in his soul, that tent will part this very instant…

[Shot of tent, which begins shaking rhythmically.

KING: …and he will return to me my lady, and beg the King’s forgiveness!]
LISTER: Has anybody got any whipped cream?

(I am amused that a shaking tent is deemed unacceptable, but conjuring up the idea of spraying whipped cream all over Sarah Alexander’s genitals is FINE.)

5) A couple of seconds of the tent moving again, when we cut back to AR after Ace’s line “Understood computer. Prepare to jump.”

Ouroboros

6) The entire scene with Kochanski putting the Cat in the microwave… sorry, Disintegrator. Definitely cut in case any kids were inspired to do a Hale & Pace. Out of all the cuts made to the series so far, this is the one that I think there is the strongest case for pre-watershed.

7) After the ad break, Kochanski’s line “I thought I’d lost you” is, erm, lost, and the scene starts with her kissing Lister. A pointless cut.

8) During the climax, both the close-up of the spear puncturing Kochanski’s leg is removed, along with her grimaced “Bastard!” The most irritating edit of the lot for me in this bunch: picking away at the impact of the climax of episodes pisses me off especially.

Epideme

9) An absolutely bizarre cut, this one, from when the crew enter the Leviathan:

KRYTEN: It’s the Leviathan, sir. A 23rd century JMC supply ship. Engines are dead: power overload; looks like they were running from something. Wait! I’m picking up a lifesign.
LISTER: Are you absolutely sure?
KRYTEN: Certain.

[Cut to inside of chamber:

KOCHANSKI: I’ve never seen anything like this!
LISTER: You weren’t around for my last party, were you?]

KRYTEN: Look at their twisted, tortured faces! The sheer blind terror.

I can’t understand the reason for this edit at all – and it looks really awkward, as well. A quick fix to cover some video or sound damage, perhaps?

10) The following delightful dialogue:

LISTER: They just have a different perspective on pain, Kryten. [As would you if, every summer, you had to pour hot wax on your crotch and rip out half your thatch.
CAT: He’s right, I hate doing that.]

KRYTEN: The tests are complete…

THATCH.

Nanarchy

11) Now, this is an interesting one. Kryten’s “Last week on Red Dwarf… something terrible happened to Mr. Lister! Watch this!” is removed. The section isn’t cut entirely though – just the dialogue is gone, whilst the music remains in the background. And what replaces the voiceover? This caption:

Last Time on Red Dwarf

I have QUESTIONS about this. Who prepared it? Was it GNP, for overseas sales? If so, you’d have hoped they’d have done a better job; the text looks a bit awkward, and whilst the main one is removed, a slight bit of irrelevant audience laugh is still on the soundtrack. Ideally, there should have been a separate “Last time on Red Dwarf” voiceover prepared at the time for overseas/satellite sales. (Mind you… it does make you wonder why they didn’t just have Kryten say “Last time on Red Dwarf…” for all showings, and avoid the problem entirely.)

12) The opening of the Lister/Cat draughts scene. An especially odd edit, seeing as Cat saying “son-of-a-bitch” later in the exact same scene is left intact:

[CAT: It’s a real son-of-a-bitch about your arm, bud.] Losing an arm… that is one terrible thing.
LISTER: Your move.

And that’s your lot. No episode has been edited as extensively as Back In The Red – Part Two, and no episode has an edit made as irritating as removing some of the best jokes from Cassandra. But the edits are spread across more episodes, and it’s still bloody annoying. If they had to show cut episodes during the day, why couldn’t they have done a late-night repeat that showed the episodes in full?

Answer: because Dave clearly don’t care that much about these repeats. And when they’re pushing these Red Dwarf weekends as much as they are, and spending the kind of money they’re spending on Red Dwarf X, that’s frankly bizarre.

Tags: , ,

17 Responses to Dave’s Red Dwarf Weekends: VII Edits

Jump to bottom

  1. As I said on Twitter at the time, it’s astonishing that “The world loves a bastard” stayed in on Sunday, but “The Fat Bastarderia/Basteria” (whichever it is) was dropped.

  2. G&T Admin

    ‘My plans have all gone tits up’ stayed in in the morning broadcast as well. I wouldn’t mind if it was consistent…

  3. > Lister clearly made the Queen fucking soaking. Maybe he yelled out LUBEYCHEAT or something.

    > Conjuring up the idea of spraying whipped cream all over Sarah Alexander’s genitals is FINE.

    Thank you John for making me both LOL like a cretin be burdened with an erection at work.

  4. An especially odd edit, seeing as Cat saying “son-of-a-bitch” later in the exact same scene is left intact

    Presumably because in the later instance, he’s talking about a male dog, who *is*, technically, a son of a bitch.

  5. Mind you… it does make you wonder why they didn’t just have Kryten say “Last time on Red Dwarf…” for all showings, and avoid the problem entirely.

    It’s Robert Llewellyn, the original line probably DID read last time.

  6. >It’s Robert Llewellyn, the original line probably DID read last time.

    Last week on Red Dwarf, something terrible happenned to Mr Lister’s arm! [Now I won’t spoil anything but this week the crew finds Red Dwarf, which had been turned into a planetoid by Kryten’s nanobots shortly after meeting the Despair Squid. Oh yes, that reminds me. There, they find Holly who has been reverted to his male, ink drinking form. When Starbug goes in to land on the remade ship they find they’re comically small. I won’t say how small. Mosquito. Also, the movie won’t happen.] Watch this!

  7. The Epideme cut that you suggested was an audio/video issue was because of the frozen dead bodies perhaps?

  8. G&T Admin

    The Epideme cut that you suggested was an audio/video issue was because of the frozen dead bodies perhaps?

    I *did* wonder about that, and the scene does start with a close-up of a dead body. But it’s not that gross, you can still see them all anyway in the UKTV edit, and all the Caroline Carmen stuff later in the episode was kept, so it didn’t seem to make much sense.

    Mind you, a lot of these cuts don’t make any sense…

  9. G&T Admin

    As I said on Twitter at the time, it’s astonishing that “The world loves a bastard” stayed in on Sunday, but “The Fat Bastarderia/Basteria” (whichever it is) was dropped.

    It is completely mental, isn’t it?

    I suppose you *can* edit out the Tikka line, whereas it’s actually difficult to edit out the BITR1 line without completely wrecking the climax of the episode. But it’s still odd.

    Sometimes I wonder whether these edits were done just so if they get into trouble, UKTV can say to Ofcom “Look! We edited this, this and this, so we are trying!”

  10. I wonder if there’s anybody in Canada who’s seen the BBC Kids edits? I’m convinced now more than ever that it’s those edits we’re watching, here.

  11. G&T Admin

    I wonder if there’s anybody in Canada who’s seen the BBC Kids edits? I’m convinced now more than ever that it’s those edits we’re watching, here.

    It can’t be the BBC Kids edits – didn’t you say they were for 30 mins with adverts? These are in 40 minute slots.

  12. Hm. Further research may be required. I’m going to reach out to BBC Kids, see if I can get any information from them.

  13. G&T Admin

    I’m going to reach out to BBC Kids

    !

  14. Over here we call that grooming.

  15. It’s funny, incidentally, how UKTV seem to have such problems with the actual broadcast of the shows given how much care and attention goes into their trailers. The “countdown” trailers have been superb – well-picked clips relevant to each individual series, and a good variety (i.e. different trailers all using different clips).

    The “Flash!” ones for Blackadder are great, too.

  16. I don’t watch live TV a great deal but am staying with a friend at the moment. We watched something on Dave and I was very happy to see 3 Red Dwarf adverts in 4 ad breaks! Admittedly 2 were just the short flyby shots with the date but I was happy to see that it the series is really being plugged. I remember having to go through 3 hours of recorded TV to find the first trailer not too long ago.

    I generally think Red Dwarf is undervalued compared to other classic sitcoms so to see a TV channel treating it’s return like something that everyone should be excited for really makes me smile.

  17. G&T Admin

    The “Flash!” ones for Blackadder are great, too.

    Coupled with Brian Blessed doing the link for the series, of course :)

Jump to top / Jump to 'Recent Comments'

Leave a Reply