DwarfCast 93 – Live Mechocracy Instant Reaction

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Dust off your rosettes and buff up your ballot box, it’s time for the strong and stable podcast that caters for the few, not the many. Mechocracy is this week’s political hot potato, but G&T failed to return a majority, so John Hoare and Ian Symes entered into a coalition of chaos with Joey Newsome and Carrie Parsons of the Fan Club, and independent member Curtis Threadgold.

Topics on the agenda include manipulative mopping, surprise re-appearances, how many times Rimmer has killed himself, smear campaigns, the women of Doncaster, and how many letters there are in the names of various colours. We also find time to squeeze in Some News, look ahead to M-Corp and end on an impromptu examination on how the Dave era is perceived.

DwarfCast 93 – Live Mechocracy Instant Reaction (79.9MB)

A big thanks to our guests Joey, Carrie and Curtis, and as usual, our eternal gratitude to all those who listened along live and commented on Spreaker. We will of course be back next week to discuss all things M-Corp on Friday 3rd November at 9pm. In the meantime, Jonathan Capps is on review duties this week, so his in-depth written thoughts will be here in a few days’ time.

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30 Responses to DwarfCast 93 – Live Mechocracy Instant Reaction

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  1. ♫ You say me-cock-rocy, I say mek-o-cracy, let’s call the whole thing off ♫

  2. There’s quite a lot of moments in XII where people say “oh I didn’t quite understand that” or “oh I had to watch it twice to understand it”, which just leaves me thinking I’m some sort of hyperintelligent superhuman who understands everything first time. Or everyone else is THICK. I’ll leave it up to you to decide which.

    It was the same screen, hence the JOKE.

  3. G&T Admin

    I perhaps didn’t articulate this very well, but I know it was *supposed* to be the same screen, but that the direction left it open to interpretation. I didn’t see the need to keep cutting away from it, as the difference in angle made the direction of Kryten’s movement unclear.

  4. I did feel like the opening meandered a little, but the laughs (and applause!) were big enough to forgive that and the election stuff was pretty snappy and well-paced, I don’t know what else you could add to the second half of the episode other than maybe an acceptance speech from Kryten.

    I would feel more forgiving for the “cut stuff at the start” criticism if the stuff at the start wasn’t fucking hilarious.

    And idk Ian, I didn’t feel like it was open to interpretation at all, i thought the joke was “he goes back to the screen, obviously to check what it said, except no he cleans it more, lol”

  5. I did feel like the opening meandered a little, but the laughs (and applause!) were big enough to forgive that

    But enough about the ‘cast, and on to the episode…

  6. I refuse to believe anybody would actually get upset at the Doncaster line, there are no implications, it’s just riffing on stereotypes like the (much less funny) Mars Bar in Scotland or the (alright) Welsh fish and chip shop

    Women weren’t mentioned, it could be the men going around giving everybody stds, but then you’re putting far too much thought into a quick laugh line

  7. I got crabs from a bloke in Doncaster in 2002, fact fans!

  8. And a despair squid.

  9. Kryten knew the machines were banding together because he’s a machine and he’s on the same wavelength as them, possibly literally. Maybe he’s connected to the ship’s WiFi.

    Also he’s really good at guessing.

  10. Apologies if this was already posted elsewhere, but having just caught up, I did a reverse Google image search for the “living man” featured in part of Rimmer’s smear campaign video.

    Anticlimactically, it looks like it’s a stock headshot from a WordPress design template, e.g. https://wordpressnative.com/thirty_eighth/

    If you roll over the image, you get to see another angle:-
    Stock Headshot
    Stock Headshot

    Oh, the fun(!) I wonder who he really is…

  11. The image of the Skeletons is also a stock photo, as revealed in the official site’s discussion of the episode

  12. The image of the Skeletons is also a stock photo, as revealed in the official site’s discussion of the episode

    That’s bizarre – did they not think to get their own picture when they wrapped Samsara? I assumed that’s what they’d done because it makes some vague production sense…

  13. Apologies if this was already posted elsewhere, but having just caught up, I did a reverse Google image search for the “living man” featured in part of Rimmer’s smear campaign video.

    Anticlimactically, it looks like it’s a stock headshot from a WordPress design template, e.g. https://wordpressnative.com/thirty_eighth/
    If you roll over the image, you get to see another angle:-

    Oh, the fun(!) I wonder who he really is…

    Thanks for looking that up! Have to say that’s a disapointment though. It really should have been someone from the production as a cool easter egg :(

  14. I know who that man is.

    Ronald Littlewood

  15. There were a few things during this where I was really annoyed by something and was very disappointed that I wasn’t listening live and I couldn’t say it on Spreaker. But, here we go:

    – Talkie Toaster was recreated in the bunkroom in the new VIII ship. In then got thrown in the garbage hold shortly after the ship got saved, which was nearly twenty years ago.

    – Rimmer killing himself twice was clearly just Timeslides, as he wasn’t actually the one doing the killing in Only the Good….

    – I was the first one to mention the panels on G&T, I’d just like to point that out.

    – It was a mild shame that they didn’t use a couple of callbacks they could have, such as the vending machine from Only the Good… showing up and exposing Rimmer to the media for who he truly is. As much as I don’t think too many VIII references are a good idea, it would have been a great and easy way to introduce a scandal from many years back dragged back up during an election.

  16. Oh, and also, there is no way that the Mega Corps and M-Corp are the same thing, as noted by the fact that CORP AND CORPS ARE NOT THE SAME WORD AND DON’T HAVE EVEN REMOTELY SIMILAR MEANINGS AND ARE NOT SAID THE SAME. Mega Corps seem not to be a corporation but instead a corps, while M-Corp seems to be very much a corporation.

    I will gladly Skype into the M-Corp Dwarfcast and eat a sock live on air if I am explicitly proven wrong by the episode.

  17. CORP AND CORPS ARE NOT THE SAME WORD AND DON’T HAVE EVEN REMOTELY SIMILAR MEANINGS AND ARE NOT SAID THE SAME.

    To phrase it another way, why do you keep combining two words into one, though?

  18. G&T Admin

    Right, I have finally watched the scene again, and yeah, they do mention the election *after* they turn Talkie on, not before.

    THIS IS MY ADMISSION IN THE COMMENTS, AS I SAID I WOULD MAKE, I HAVE DONE IT

  19. Oh, and also, there is no way that the Mega Corps and M-Corp are the same thing, as noted by the fact that CORP AND CORPS ARE NOT THE SAME WORD AND DON’T HAVE EVEN REMOTELY SIMILAR MEANINGS AND ARE NOT SAID THE SAME. Mega Corps seem not to be a corporation but instead a corps, while M-Corp seems to be very much a corporation.

    But it’s not “Mega Corps” in Samsara, is it?

  20. – Talkie Toaster was recreated in the bunkroom in the new VIII ship. In then got thrown in the garbage hold shortly after the ship got saved, which was nearly twenty years ago.

    All we know is that at some point Talkie Toaster was rebuilt, don’t see any need to overthink it.

  21. Oh, and also, there is no way that the Mega Corps and M-Corp are the same thing, as noted by the fact that CORP AND CORPS ARE NOT THE SAME WORD AND DON’T HAVE EVEN REMOTELY SIMILAR MEANINGS AND ARE NOT SAID THE SAME. Mega Corps seem not to be a corporation but instead a corps, while M-Corp seems to be very much a corporation.

    But it’s not “Mega Corps” in Samsara, is it?

    Of course it is, as corp is pronounced with the p.

  22. >Of course it is, as corp is pronounced with the p.

    But she may just have pronounced it wrongly, as sometimes happens. Until we see a script I don’t think you can state for definite whether they’re talking about a corporation or a military corps. To me, the context of the line read much more as talking about a corporation, because it’s corporations that tend to have visions and values and that sort of thing.

  23. But she may just have pronounced it wrongly, as sometimes happens. Until we see a script I don’t think you can state for definite whether they’re talking about a corporation or a military corps. To me, the context of the line read much more as talking about a corporation, because it’s corporations that tend to have visions and values and that sort of thing.

    That is true, but it really annoys me. It certainly seemed corps-y to me, though.

    I still stand by them not being the same, not the least because we didn’t see Samsara covered in M-Corp logos.

  24. Just re-watched Samsara and the only logo I could see anywhere was the ship one. Curiously I noticed this time that the Captain had a bible on his table, so showing they’re specifically Christian values being imposed …

    Watched the walkthrough of the game. The text is written as such : “According to the mobo a Mega-Corp owned weapons research and development station.” and “Mega-corp falls under the alliance agreement”

    Finally, deleted scene Rimmer pronouces the above live Mega Corp with a hard P.

    Considering how forgetful Doug is, I’m not expecting any link between the two at all :)

  25. Umm… Uhh…. Erm… They’re all mistakes. Whoops. Silly actors/gamedigits/doug.

  26. I listened to this on Monday night. Just thought I’d add that though it’s sad to not get the full G&T line-up every episode, I am quite liking the different line up of G&T & guests for each ep this series. Joey, Carrie and Curtis did a great job.

  27. I listened to this on Monday night. Just thought I’d add that though it’s sad to not get the full G&T line-up every episode, I am quite liking the different line up of G&T & guests for each ep this series. Joey, Carrie and Curtis did a great job.

    I concur, it’s been GOOD. :)

  28. I should have mentioned but Thanks For The Memory has clips from series 1 in the hologram simulation suite. This is in answer to where clips have been used in the show before.

  29. I’m always late to the reaction Dwarfcast party, but great job as usual!

    The only major point I disagree with you all on is Cat’s glasses subplot. True, the idea of reading glasses being uncool and embarrassing IS old hat and a worn out comedy premise, BUT: this is completely in character for The Cat.

    Cat often loudly complains when he has to wear something functional or something which hasn’t been meticulously crafted by him to match his fashion sense, to the point of being actively distressed in some situations. Of course Lister, Kryten and even Rimmer wouldn’t really think that Cat looked uncool in reading glasses, but Cat would still be ashamed to be seen in them, because they don’t match his personal standards for fashion.

    I thought it was kind of nice how Cat was genuinely really interested in reading despite his anti-specs instincts. It’s always cool to see more layers to a character, even one who’s so purposely superficial.

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