Entangled News Posted by Jonathan Capps on 15th August 2012, 14:30 Ah, I remember when this site’s bread and butter was checking the BBFC website for details of forthcoming DVD content. Now, as then, it seems it’s going to be one the main sources of information as we rapidly approach broadcast, probably thanks to the fact that the DVD will be released so soon after. So, first up, episode 4 is going to called Entangled and it will be 29m 46s long… …and, erm, that’s about it. It’s in widescreen, so that’s nice. Oh, yeah, and it’s slightly longer (16 seconds to be precise) than the BBC standard, so that’s also nice. This episode is showing as being classified today so I wouldn’t be surprised if the others start appearing very, very soon and we can start filling in the gaps. Doug previously mentioned on Twitter that episode 3 was called Lemons but that was at the writing stage so it could well have changed since then. So, Entangled, what could it be possibly mean? Please feel free to guess below unless you *do* know what it means, in which case please feel free to keep your mouth shut. Credit must go to Andrew Ellard for being the first to spot it and inform the Twitter masses. Thank you, Ellard. Thellard.
Not that it’s a huge deal but Andrew’s said he got it from the TOS forums and Soundableobject’s forum thread on here first, so credit where it’s due to Holly (not that one) and SO. Tholly and Thoundableobject.
Actually, Gazpacho Soup make a good point about the episode rating. Looking through the BBFC site, this is the first episode to be rated 12 since the DVD edition of Marooned and only the second to ever be rated higher than PG for its first home release. SHUT UP THIS IS INTERESTING.
A cock’s out on TV and its NOT Robert Webb’s?! “Iain Lee’s television career began in 1998 with The 11 O’Clock Show.”
It’s rated 12 for ‘moderate language and sex references’, in case anyone couldn’t be arsed to click the links…
>Just wait until you see the rating for the episode where Craig got his cock out. Who’d have guessed that he kept it under Kryten’s flip-top lid…on his head! Kryten’s head, not Craig’s
Adj. 1. entangled – deeply involved especially in something complicated; “embroiled in the conflict”; “felt unwilling entangled in their affairs” embroiled involved – connected by participation or association or use; “we accomplished nothing, simply because of the large number of people involved”; “the problems involved”; “the involved muscles”; “I don’t want to get involved”; “everyone involved in the bribery case has been identified” 2. entangled – twisted together in a tangled mass; “toiled through entangled growths of mesquite” tangled – in a confused mass; “pushed back her tangled hair”; “the tangled ropes” 3. entangled – involved in difficulties unfree – hampered and not free; not able to act at will 4. entangle- The title for the fourth episode of the eagerly anticipated Red Dwarf X television show I’m going to guess that some kind of incident on a par to a Star Trek transporter accident occurs leaving Lister and Cat merged together as a single entity. Kryten figures out a way to separate the pair into their individual selves…but Lisat/Caster doesn’t want his new found life to end. This proves to be a problematic dilemma, but Rimmer decides “Fuck you. I owe you nowt” and hits the keypad returning the Lisat/Caster being to Cat and Lister.
The title reminds me of when they pass through the Omnizone in the Better Than Life novel and all become spaghettified and… well, entangled.
> Actually, Gazpacho Soup make a good point about the episode rating. Looking through the BBFC site, this is the first episode to be rated 12 since the DVD edition of Marooned and only the second to ever be rated higher than PG for its first home release. So, yeah, this is all pretty much bollocks. Loads of episodes have been rated 12. As you were.
The title reminds me of when they pass through the Omnizone in the Better Than Life novel and all become spaghettified and… well, entangled. Yeah, that crossed my mind too. Also, when Alex posted on the other thread that he’d thought the title at the shooting was Entanglement, it put me in mind of the Enlightenment holoship. I’d love to see Nirvana Crane return somehow.
>I don’t think Star Trek: Voyager is as shit as people say it is. It got me back into Star Trek having missed the whole TNG boat.
>Also, when Alex posted on the other thread that he’d thought the title at the shooting was Entanglement, it put me in mind of the Enlightenment holoship. I’d love to see Nirvana Crane return somehow. Wouldn’t that qualify as milking previous episodes for ideas?
Yeah, it’s not uncommon for an episode to be higher than PG. The point I was getting at was that it’s just higher than the majority of episodes when you take the show as a whole, as barring Series VIII you’d normally have no more than two a series. From memory, Back to Earth was all PG while Series VII had the most 12 rated episodes with 3 entires, so I’ll be interested to see which way Series X leans.
Yeah, God knows where I got that Marooned was the only episode to be rated higher than PG. It’s not even a series I-VI thing since there are episodes rated 12 in series VI, too. I’m just tired. So tired.
When I saw ‘Entangled’ I found myself thinking of the squid. (As in, entangled – grabby tentacles, etc…) BtE ended with them saying they would find an ocean moon to leave her on… it made me wonder if the episode will deal with that, things not working out as they hoped. I doubt very much this will be the case however. I’m sure it will be an off-screen occurrence. Especially as we’ve had two squiddy stories,although this one might not involve another group hallucination as they may be entirely immune now. It’s just what occurred to me. It’s more likely to do with the (Dwarf or one of the shuttle craft) getting caught in a giant energy space net thing with a countdown to simulant or gelf captors arrival. Actually that rings a bell with Star Trek too. Although I think I’m probably way off there too. More likely != likely.
> I don’t think Star Trek: Voyager is as shit as people say it is. Don’t give me that Star Trek crap, it’s too…oh, it’s quarter past six in the evening, never mind.
>It’s more likely to do with the (Dwarf or one of the shuttle craft) getting caught in a giant energy space net thing with a countdown to simulant or gelf captors arrival. Actually that rings a bell with Star Trek too. Although I think I’m probably way off there too. More likely != likely. That has to be the best suggestion I’ve heard so far. Certainly better than mine that involved a secluded corner of the ship, a giant evolved spider and a riddle competition reminiscant of Bilbo and Gollum between the spider and Cat…
It appears to have been removed from the site. It still shows up when you search for it, but the actual entry no longer exists.
Bah, that’s a shame, presumably it will disappear from the search once that’s reindexed, too. Episode titles are fairly harmless, especially when we’ll know them before transmission anyway!
Perhaps they are supposed to only upload the titles when all of them are passed (As they do with most other series) and the one posted today was in error? It’s a possibility.
Either way, fortunately I think it’s probably the least spoilery title of the remaining five (i.e. not including the one that’s already been floating around out there). Despite what Andrew said on Twitter about episode titles not being that spoilery – and none of them are especially – I’d say that maybe two of them give a fairly decent sense of what the ep is actually about.
They would be “Back In The Green” where the crew find Starbug and “Back In The Blue” where they find White Midget. The title being a deliberate curve ball made to make you think it’s all about the T.A.R.D.I.S when it isn’t.
>I’m going to guess that some kind of incident on a par to a Star Trek transporter accident occurs leaving Lister and Cat merged together as a single entity. Kryten figures out a way to separate the pair into their individual selves…but Lisat/Caster doesn’t want his new found life to end. This proves to be a problematic dilemma, but Rimmer decides “Fuck you. I owe you nowt” and hits the keypad returning the Lisat/Caster being to Cat and Lister. >I don’t think Star Trek: Voyager is as shit as people say it is. Tuvix?
>>I don’t think Star Trek: Voyager is as shit as people say it is. Sit through at least 5 complete runs of every single episode with your spouse, and you *will* change your mind.
Other episodes have taken their plots and titles from speculative scientific concepts like nanobots and terraforming, so maybe this one was inspired by the idea of quantum entanglement? Sci-fi stories sometimes use it as a technobabble explanation for how teleportation could work (like Half-Life 2, which had a chapter called “Entanglement”), and I can imagine it being a phrase that might be dropped into Kryten’s exposition dialogue.
> I’d say that maybe two of them give a fairly decent sense of what the ep is actually about. I honestly know nothing about the episodes (apart from set reports and a friend of mine, who saw episode 5, saying she liked it, though I stopped her giving me details!) but I’m gonna hazard a guess that one of the titles is a guest-character’s name, one that will click with fans…?
Entangled is the first fantasy adventure novel from the bestselling non-fiction author of The Sign and the Seal, Fingerprints of the Gods, Heaven’s Mirror and Supernatural. “This is a fantasy adventure time-slip novel, and as you can see this is quite a departure for me – fiction instead of non-fiction. But between the lines of what (I hope) is a non-stop action narrative there are a lot of controversial ideas on subjects like consciousness, time-travel, out-of-body experiences, near-death experiences, Ayahuasca, DMT, telepathy, parallel realms, and much more.” – Graham Hancock More information and a preview of the first 4 chapters are available on the Entangled website: http://www.entangledthebook.com/ And a short video promo can be seen here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQiN-4zY-l4&feature=PlayList&p=6C01AB3E0EE918BF&index=2
It’s back, and with a spoiler alert for the Extended Classification Information. Annoyingly (or luckily depending on how you look at it) there seems to be fuck all there when you click on it: http://www.bbfc.co.uk/AVV293063/
So we’ve got 1. Ripe Salad 2. Space Sex Witch 3. Lemons 4. Entangled 5. Lynam’s Ringpiece 6. The Cat’s Out the Bag Now
There’s got to be an episode title that begins with “Back…”. About 13% of Red Dwarf episodes do. Back…something, something, something.
> Other episodes have taken their plots and titles from speculative scientific concepts like nanobots and terraforming, so maybe this one was inspired by the idea of quantum entanglement? After reading up on it using my number one source for advanced physical concepts (Simple English Wikipedia), I’m loving the idea that Doug used this as a premise for an episode. As good as he is, he could take this concept in about 12 different directions.
I can hear Danny John Jules having a field day on the commentary to ‘Ripe Salad’ already. Red rag. Bull.
I have come to conclusion that I should probably stop refreshing the BBFC page and start doing some work.
