J.J’s Trek Trailer

Me: big trekkie. Huge trek person.

The last one was so bad that there is not even a word for how bad it was.

This one might be good!

It’s also Star Trek’s last chance ever.

If it’s good, it’ll probably spawn toys, animated series and so on!
If it sucks, it’s all over!

God, do I hope that Abrams doesn’t screw up.

But anyway, what we’ve got to read and see so far… gets one’s hope up :)

> I can?t say that it?s worth it

Yet!

My guess is that it’ll be built up over time. There’s one year left till the release. I think this kind of cryptic teaser website is a *brilliant* marketing tool.

If this is the end for Trek it’ll probably be far more satisfying than the last episode of Enterprise.

Must.resist.urge.to.quote.The.Last.Day

It was hardly great, but it was more than watchable.

> It was hardly great, but it was more than watchable.

Maybe you watched a different one.

I knew it was going to be the last TNG film and I was absolutely determined to enjoy it, no matter what they do. And I live in my own little world, normally when I’m determined to enjoy myself, I manage! But it was impossible for me because it was lousy beyond words.

I wrote a lengthy review back then for a Star Trek forum that I can’t find now – and I’ve only seen Nemesis this once so I can’t even tell you in detail why exactly I hated it so much (and it got worse each minute of the film) – but I still remember some things… such as:

Issues that are too trivial to actually cock up and they still managed to… cock them up. I.e. they give aliens elaborate masks but don’t think of handing Tom Hardy some contacts. Resulting in Picard and his clone to have different coloured eyes… which is really nasty when you show their faces next to each other in close-ups.

And totally unnecessary nuisances, like recycling storylines from TNG like the fans have never seen the actual show. I’m not even talking about Data finding his older brother (no mentioning of Lore there, was there?) but troy being remote-mind-raped… it was exactly like in that TNG episode.

The entire movie ended up seeming a lot cheaper than it actually was. Like a B movie version, a caricature of itself.

And I TRIED REALLY HARD to like it.

is this really the end for trek, or will they remake the entire kirk series with these new actors? Kinda like a restart, just like battlestar galactica just did. Where the series is *similar* but not necessarily the same.

I’m not sure what i’d think about this, as I like continuity – but this screws it all up. But if it starts a new continuity…. it might actually be okay!

hehe I liked it. Not much, admittedly. But it had some good bits.

I freedly admit to watching all the trek movies over the years multiple times….all except nemesis. What a total and utter waste of film that was, I’d sooner haev watched a hour video of myself being sick. I’ve seen it once and have avoided it like a plague ridden whore ever since.

Weak, feeble, and utterly baffelingly written tripe…. well I could go on but I think the points made. Nemesis was the lump of hardened shit on the arse of a dog that was the star trek universe. JJ better not fuck this one up… although I’ll reserve judgement till I actually see it.

But I need my Star Trek!

Deep inside, I’m still sad that TNG ever stopped.

To be frank I feel that some new writers are needed with some freshideas if the franchise is ever going to keep running. Your right that they have been rehashing the same storylines for long nough now….for gods sakes write something fresh and new!

I have a feling that JJ will ‘try’ at least to bring something fresh and original to the writing, whether it turns out to be good or something that grates on the viewer is soemthing we’ll have to wait to find out.

There does seem to be a thing for recasting well known actors in very well known roles of late…take the up coming new freddy movies…with freddy kruger NOT played by Robert Englund!! WTF?

Well, Voyager started out wiht a bunch of adventurers on board, but the whole Marquis storyline was quickly ditched when everyone became nie and sober and very starfleet. ;)

I am popping my head round the door of this thread to declare that I care not a jot for Trek in any of its forms; but despite the fact that the last time Abrams was let loose on someone else’s property he wrote what was by all accounts a downright insulting Superman script, I think this film could be pretty cool. Mainly because of Pegg.

Um, as you were.

Just think how cool Voyager would have been if it had all been like Year Of Hell, pristine Starfleet ship gets shit kicked out of it for seven years and is forced to integrate alien technology to carry on.

Yep, it really would. They’re a great couple of episodes, but they point towards how the show should have been rather too uncomfortably.

It?s very telling that many on your list are Doctor episodes, and not for example, Harry Kim ones.

Without the Doctor and Seven, I wouldn’t be defending the show, yes.

Harry was a waste of time. So was Kes. So was Chakotay. And good characters like Torres, Paris and Tuvok didn’t get nearly enough to do, either. Oh, for what could have been…

I think Baz’s idea would make a brilliant and fresh Star Trek series, I’ve had a similar idea actually. I think it would work because Star Trek has set up such an established universe that we know and love now. Following just a few characters as they traverse it would be much better than an entire crew of people who are underused.

I think firefly worked cos you only had a few characters to follow, and you can get to know them better. The series 1 of any Trek series is bad because they have to do so many character-building episodes for their large cast.

Larger casts can work too of course, BSG has a fair few. But is good because they all have very different roles, not just ANOTHER bridge officer.

Has anyone ever read or heard of the Star Trek New Frontier books by Peter David? They are brilliantly action packed, and he describes his characters with witty colourful brilliance. It’s another ship, and another crew in the Next Gen / DS9 universe, but it works because they’re all so diverse and… bonkers. Theres quite a few in the series and it’s a good read from book 1.

I had a few ideas for new Star Trek spinoffs

Starfleet Academy: Saved by the bell – Some smart-ass teenagers and their days at the academy

Starfleet Top Gun: About some hotshot Starfleet pilots

Section 31 Files: Agents Dulmer and Lucsley (from that DS9 episode) investigate strange things across the Federation

USS Tribulation: The adventures of the Federation’s only crew of Tribbles

Any good? :-P

Peter David’s work is generally good. He did write the first four-issue set of Little Mermaid comics, in fact he went to the Marvel Execs and threatened to break their legs if they didn’t let him. Being a bit of an Arielholic myself, I approve.

Wonder if someone could persuade Joss Whedon to write a Trek series, apparently Michael J Stracsynski had a script for 3 series of a new franchise all ready to go, but they turned him down.

Joss Whedon would be great becauase he’d focus on the characters, which have always been a bit watery in Trek, and JMS would be good cos he’s really use the existing alien races and focus on the politics.

I think a new series should definately be like a mini-series, and focus an entire season on a proper ongoing story – not individual episodes. I think Enterprise got much much better when it had the ongoing story rather than rubbish single episodes.

I still stick by my idea that Peter David’s new Frontier should be turned into a miniseries. It’s full of action and whacky characters. The budget would have to be pretty high cos a lot of actiony things happen, maybe a 3D animated series would be okay?

I think they should STOP THE MADNESS and rest the bloody thing for…well, ever, actually. But a couple of decades, anyway. Let the cash cow die.

> Oh God, I read this and now I remember all the horrible details.

That was brilliant!

Still, two episodes of TNG and five of DS9 a week is pretty damn good, although I do wish the former would end before the latter. As for continuing it, I would definitely take the current continuity over some bullshit new one.

I still firmly believe the TNG crew deserve one more outing rather than ending with the lame duck of Nemesis. The story could culminate in the introduction of the Next NEXT Generation.

As for Abrams’s film, it’s looking to be pretty good but I still can’t get over some of the casting. The one decision they SHOULD make is having Shatner’s Kirk appear at the end. It seems so crap to me that it’s a movie about Kirk, Spock etc. and Leonard Nimoy is in it but NOT Shatner!? Screw Kirk’s death in Generations! It could be easily explained away – just say it was an alt-Kirk that died, that the Nexus spewed out another Kirk somewhere else, perhaps in the past timeline that Abrams’s movie deals with!

> And I?m bloody glad Shatner isn?t?

lol. I wouldn’t want him to have a large role in it, just a cameo at the end would be a fantastic nod to all the fans who hated his death in Generations. I doubt it will happen though. And there’s a good chance Nimoy’s Spock will die in the new film, leaving Zachary Quinto firmly as the new Spock (you just KNOW if this is successful there’ll be sequels).

This is a prequel. It seems to be set before the original series, but isn’t strictly speaking a “reboot”. Not if my information is accurate, at least.

Yes, that’s it.

Maybe he’s going to play Spock’s dad or relative…but I thing the flashback is more likely.

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It involves Spock time-travelling and helping his younger self to avert a Romulan plot to assassinate a young Kirk / alter history.

Apparently the time-line is changed somewhat, which allows for a reboot of the franchise.