Home › Forums › Ganymede & Titan Forum › The official The End of Time thread (will contain pre-broadcast spoilers/speculation and post-broadcast spoilers) Search for: This topic has 154 replies, 25 voices, and was last updated 16 years, 5 months ago by Jonathan Capps. Scroll to bottom Creator Topic December 2, 2009 at 11:47 am #6082 Seb PatrickKeymaster Here you go then, folks. Get your Who fix here for now, and we’ll do a new thread for Moffat-era spoilers when appropriate. But the old thread is still unlocked in case anyone finds some nice new pictures of Karen Gillan, and it’s here: http://www.ganymede.tv/forum/2009/10/doctor-who-in-an-exciting-adventure-with-the-spoilers Remember, if you want to talk spoiler-free, or simply discuss anything that’s already been shown (whether Old Who or Old New Who), you can go here : http://www.ganymede.tv/forum/2009/10/doctor-who-and-the-lack-of-fatal-spoilers Creator Topic Viewing 50 replies - 1 through 50 (of 154 total) 1 2 3 4 Author Replies December 2, 2009 at 5:30 pm #106762 Jonathan CappsKeymaster Apart from the first filming pictures we saw, has anyone seen a picture with Karen NOT in a short skirt? You horny old toad, Moff… December 2, 2009 at 6:39 pm #106766 genericnerdyusernameParticipant Between you and me I hear Tennant is leaving. December 2, 2009 at 6:42 pm #106767 JamesTCParticipant Pfft, I think he’ll stay for the Moffat era. December 2, 2009 at 6:47 pm #106770 genericnerdyusernameParticipant My pizza just arrived and the delivery boy knocked four times. That is not good. December 2, 2009 at 7:21 pm #106773 Michael WarrenParticipant Date and time confirmed – http://www.bbc.co.uk/pressoffice/proginfo/tv/2009/wk51/bbc_one.shtml#bbc_one_doctorwho Doctor Who ? The End Of Time, Part One Friday 25 December 6.00-7.00pm BBC ONE Doctor Who ? The End Of Time, Part Two Friday 1 January 6.40-7.55pm BBC ONE December 2, 2009 at 7:27 pm #106774 genericnerdyusernameParticipant Bah! Christmas presents from family and friends?? You can’t top this one from the BBC and I’m going to tell everyone who gets me one. December 2, 2009 at 7:35 pm #106775 JamesTCParticipant The cast list has been revealed, notable mentions – Roger Bailey (Time Lord) Penelope Wilton (Harriet Jones) Well not that much notable actually, those are for part 2. Matt Smith is also in the cast list but we all knew he was in part 2. Sourse -http://www.denofgeek.com/television/373632/doctor_who_the_end_of_time_cast_list_confirmed_with_surprises_in_store.html Though really it is from IMDB which hardly is the most reliable of sources. December 2, 2009 at 7:45 pm #106776 genericnerdyusernameParticipant >Roger Bailey (Time Lord) Ooooooh! >Penelope Wilton (Harriet Jones) Who, no doubt, turns out to be the Rani. Ha! Seriously though, that would be shit :-) December 2, 2009 at 7:49 pm #106778 John HoareParticipant Hadn’t realised Part 2 was 75 minutes long. Parts 1 and 2 together then are 135 mins. Which is (when you take into account the lack of duplicate opening titles and recaps, and the fact that old Who was a shade under 25 minutes anyway) the equivalent of a full old-style six-parter! December 2, 2009 at 8:58 pm #106780 AndrewParticipant > Penelope Wilton (Harriet Jones) Off-screen deaths. They never take. December 2, 2009 at 9:05 pm #106782 JamesTCParticipant It is Doctor Who, on-screen deaths never take. December 2, 2009 at 9:16 pm #106784 genericnerdyusernameParticipant Between-screen deaths. They’re the only ones you can trust. December 2, 2009 at 9:25 pm #106786 Jonathan CappsKeymaster > Off-screen deaths. They never take. IMDB also used to say something interesting about Norman Lovett. December 2, 2009 at 10:21 pm #106788 Pete Part ThreeParticipant There better be a bloody good reason for Russell Tovey being in this aside from RTD clearly fancying the arse of him. I’d say the same about Jessica Hynes but, no matter how shoe-horned her presence seems as well, a) she at least had a memorable, important, character and, um, b) she’s a lady. December 2, 2009 at 10:55 pm #106789 JamesTCParticipant >There better be a bloody good reason for Russell Tovey being in this aside from RTD clearly fancying the arse of him. A bad pun to do with his characters name. December 3, 2009 at 12:05 pm #106792 NitroChrisUKParticipant http://blogtorwho.blogspot.com/2009/12/bbc-chrsitmas-ident.html December 3, 2009 at 12:25 pm #106793 Jonathan CappsKeymaster Hmm. December 3, 2009 at 1:20 pm #106794 JamesTCParticipant Beats ‘Time and the Rani’. December 3, 2009 at 3:18 pm #106796 Jonathan CappsKeymaster Good idea. *beats ‘Time and the Rani’* December 3, 2009 at 3:29 pm #106797 SomebodyParticipant > http://blogtorwho.blogspot.com/2009/12/bbc-chrsitmas-ident.html Ah, this would be the thing that RTD apparently demanded on the 2nd of January this year after seeing Wallace & Gromit get last year’s Xmas idents, followed by 16m viewers + a 7m+ viewer repeat… December 3, 2009 at 4:34 pm #106798 Jonathan CappsKeymaster To be fair, Who does need a bit of a help with ratings. Anyone care to hazard a guess by exactly how much TEoT is going to smash previous ratings records? December 3, 2009 at 4:46 pm #106799 AndrewParticipant I’d just like to say: I like that ident. December 3, 2009 at 5:04 pm #106800 Pete Part ThreeParticipant >Hmm. What does “Hmm” mean? It’s awesome. December 3, 2009 at 5:13 pm #106801 Jonathan CappsKeymaster > What does ?Hmm? mean? It?s awesome. It means I’m not convinced. December 3, 2009 at 5:54 pm #106802 Pete Part ThreeParticipant It’s cheesey, it’s overblown, It’s Christmas. December 3, 2009 at 6:28 pm #106803 AndrewParticipant I have a slight issue with the way the shot of the Doc sat on the TARDIS crosses the line when cut with the rest of the footage. Other than that, it’s lovely. Cartoony, but as Pete says: Christmas. December 3, 2009 at 8:59 pm #106810 Seb PatrickKeymaster Can we just stop for a moment to consider how fucking INCREDIBLE the notion that BBC ONE’S CHRISTMAS IDENTS are themed around DOCTOR FUCKING WHO is? I was flicking through the issue of DWM from the 35th anniversary recently (the one with that bloody brilliant Roger Langridge-drawn story in it), and aside from being amused by merchandise adverts, the main feeling was one of wanting to shout at all the people writing for it “YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT’S COMING IN LESS THAN A DECADE, HANG IN THERE FOLKS!” December 3, 2009 at 9:00 pm #106811 Seb PatrickKeymaster Also, I think the ident’s brilliant, so there. December 3, 2009 at 9:03 pm #106812 Seb PatrickKeymaster Also, speaking of anniversaries… there’s a pretty decent likelihood that Moffat’s still going to be in charge at the time of the 50th, isn’t there? At least, if he does the job for as long as Russell. Just think on THAT one for a moment. December 4, 2009 at 7:06 am #106813 Ben PaddonParticipant Somebody get me a towel. December 4, 2009 at 6:27 pm #106817 steven87gillParticipant >Off-screen deaths. They never take. True. I have an odd image (probably miles off) of the Doctor turning up in harriet jones’ flat and saving her after the screen goes fuzzy. I’m sure CE’s Doctor made a comment about HJ leading britain into a golden age, that implied that he’d seen it and was .possibly. a fixed point in time that Doc 10 altered. December 4, 2009 at 7:18 pm #106818 NitroChrisUKParticipant http://blogtorwho.blogspot.com/2009/12/end-of-time-bbc-preview.html looks interesting. at 1st look the questions i ask are what will this gate be and why is the master wearing a collar. i hope this all lives up to expectations. December 4, 2009 at 8:06 pm #106819 Pete Part ThreeParticipant Can’t say I’m particularly enamoured with The Master shooting laser bolts from his hand. December 4, 2009 at 8:21 pm #106820 JamesTCParticipant >Can?t say I?m particularly enamoured with The Master shooting laser bolts from his hand. He’s a robot/cyborg. I don’t understand why he is wearing a dog leash near the end of the clip. December 4, 2009 at 9:10 pm #106821 Pete Part ThreeParticipant >He?s a robot/cyborg. Can?t say I?m particularly enamoured with The Master being a robot/cyborg. He’s a Time Lord, why do they need to resort to this to explain his return? December 4, 2009 at 9:26 pm #106822 AlexParticipant We don’t know that they’ve resorted to anything. Let’s be honest, we haven’t got a clue whats going on really. December 4, 2009 at 10:49 pm #106823 AndrewParticipant > He?s a robot/cyborg. This is an assumption not a fact, though, surely? Based on a misinterpretation of the skeletal effect in the teaser clips? The Master gaining Emperor-type powers makes sense to me. If I was gleefully evil, I’d want ’em. December 5, 2009 at 12:14 am #106824 JamesTCParticipant Assumptions make the world go round. Plus it isn’t a misinterpretation, it looks like a metal endoskelaton type structure, it is repeated in the latest clips, he is clearly not normal inside. That is unless it is just really shit CGI, if that is true though they wouldn’t repeat it so much in clips. Also note the a Gallifrey type logo thing behind the Master when he is at the computer, similar to the one Dalton was wearing in that picture from a while back. December 5, 2009 at 12:19 am #106825 NitroChrisUKParticipant few more promo pics up http://blogtorwho.blogspot.com/2009/12/end-of-time-promo-pics.html December 5, 2009 at 12:38 am #106826 ChrisMParticipant Achoo! Achoo! December 5, 2009 at 12:50 am #106827 Tarka DalParticipant Part of me will really miss RTD Era Who. Another part of me see’s rubbish looking creations like > Achoo! Achoo! and is glad it’s ending soon. December 5, 2009 at 12:52 am #106828 AndrewParticipant > Plus it isn?t a misinterpretation You don’t know that. Regardless, it’s certainly not a fact. There’s a world between “not normal” and “robot” – not the least of which is the bizarre conclusion-jump from a blue-hued human skeleton to definitive robot. I suggest the resurrection looks significantly more complex than you’ve decided, and stating ‘cyborg’ like it’s been definitvely established isn’t any way to convince otherwise. I mean, to me it looks like an attempt at resurrection that don’t wholly work and so was augmented, in the outer appearace, by a hologram. But I’m not stating that as a fact, despite it maybe gelling with the quotes in the Radio Times, since other theories could work equally well. December 5, 2009 at 1:01 am #106829 Tarka DalParticipant http://images.digitalspy.co.uk/09/49/550w_doctor_who_s5_filming_1.jpg Cappsy’s theory (theorem?) about Moffat being a randy old goat appears to be holding. Another outfit, another mini-skirt. Oh there’s a pic of 11 too. http://images.digitalspy.co.uk/09/49/550w_doctor_who_s5_filming_2.jpg December 5, 2009 at 1:09 am #106830 JamesTCParticipant http://s368.photobucket.com/albums/oo121/SoundableObject/?action=view¤t=Master.jpg >There?s a world between ?not normal? and ?robot? – not the least of which is the bizarre conclusion-jump from a blue-hued human skeleton to definitive robot At which point did I say he was a definite robot, from the evidence I think he is a cyborg, I never said he was definatly one, it may have been better to say “he might be”, I have already elaborated that it is not a normal skeleton and we can both see that from the above picture, unless it is bad CGI work. December 5, 2009 at 1:12 am #106831 JamesTCParticipant The Master is Kamelion. December 5, 2009 at 1:32 am #106832 AndrewParticipant > At which point did I say he was a definite robot, from the evidence I think he is a cyborg, I never said he was definatly one “He?s a robot/cyborg.” In case you’re unaware, the apostrophe condenses the phrase “he is” – rather than, say, “I think he might be but it’s wholly conjecture based on a couple of CG shots which could end up being any number of things.” December 5, 2009 at 1:45 am #106833 JamesTCParticipant >it may have been better to say ?he might be? December 5, 2009 at 1:29 pm #106837 AndrewParticipant So we agree – stated as fact, shouldn’t have done, that’s that. So, short skirts, eh? December 5, 2009 at 2:05 pm #106838 ori-STUDFARMParticipant As long as he isn’t a “droid”. George Lucas owns the rights to the use of the word “droid”. Wouldn’t want to be unnecessarily lining his pockets any more than!! December 5, 2009 at 4:03 pm #106841 JamesTCParticipant >So, short skirts, eh? Something for the dads. 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