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  • #3478
    Carlito
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    Yay, or Nay?

    Discuss.

    #98031
    Carlito
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    I consider the first series to be a forgotten and underrated classic. Then Neil Stuke replaced Ben Chaplin and…. ugh. Series 2 was still pretty good, but series 3 was just boring. Lacked the spark.

    Funnily enough, the writing partnership dissolved after series 2 and one of them decided to go it alone for the last series, with less than satisfying results. Sound familiar? lol

    #98036
    Andrew
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    Is this just another discussion Carl is having with himself, or can other people join in?

    #98039
    Carlito
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    Why do people always make a fuss on here if I post more than once in a row? Nobody is ever bothered by it on any other forum I’ve ever been to, sometimes things just occur to you after posting (or call for an elaboration) and editing the post just throws everything out of sequence in case anyone has posted in the meanwhile. Is it really THAT disconcerting for everyone?

    #98041
    Dave
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    I liked it. I haven’t seen any of it in years and at the moment the only joke that sticks in my head now was about Wee Chlo.

    Neil Stuke & Samantha Janus kept working, the other guy was in an advert recently but other than that, nothing. There’s no justice.

    #98042
    Pete Part Three
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    Yeah, leave Carl alone.

    #98043
    Pete Part Three
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    Agreed.

    #98045
    Dave
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    I tried to change the subject.

    #98046
    Dave
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    I failed.

    #98047
    Carlito
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    Matthew Cottle (the ginger tosser) was in EastEnders about two years ago. It occured to me a couple weeks back that he had been in it, and now Sam Janus is in it… and the very next day I caught a repeat of that very episode on Watch. He played some kind of door-to-door salesman who visited a depressed Jake Moon.

    #98055
    ChrisM
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    >Yay, or Nay?

    Yay for me. Hilarious in places. Saucy. Lots to like. And great how they made a joke about the change of one of the actors.

    #98056
    Carlito
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    It was an amusing joke. Just a shame they so badly miscast the replacement.

    In fact, scratch that. Game On would have been fine if they had cast Neil Stuke from day one (he was the second choice to play Matt, before the part went to Ben Chaplin). It would have been… just… fine.

    But Ben Chaplin made the part his own to such a degree; gave him a realness, made Matt equally cool and flawed, an arrogant, vulnerable git. A guy cool enough you wanted to be him, yet sad enough to make you think again.

    Neil Stuke made him an animated clown.

    Chaplin’s Matt was intimidating enough you felt Martin was actually scared of him (which was quite vital to their dynamic). Contrastingly, the weedy Stuke was about 5 inches shorter than Matthew Cottle and not scary in the slightest.

    If Stuke had been with Game On from the start, it would have been a different show, still okay, but not as brilliant as Series 1 promised it could be. As it turned out, he had big shoes to fill and the recasting changed the entire dynamic of the show and the character of Matt.

    If they had picked Stuke from day one, it would have been fine, but as they went with Chaplin, the recast should have looked for somebody who could have pulled off playing ‘Matt Malone, as made famous by Ben Chaplin’, not go back to the drawing board completely.

    #98057
    Carlito
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    I’m still very much in the ‘Yay’ camp for Game On, however. Even series 3 had it’s moments. But if Chaplin had stuck with the show, I reckon it would have grown to be fondly remembered as an all-time classic today.

    Yes, I’m double posting AGAIN, unless somebody beats me to the punch…

    #98058
    ChrisM
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    I thought they both did well, although I agree Ben Chaplin was the more intimidating of the two and the better version.

    >Yes, I?m double posting AGAIN, unless somebody beats me to the punch?

    Not quite speedy cat. ;)

    #98059
    Kris Carter
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    I always enjoyed the show, although series 3 really petered out. Stuke and Chaplin, well, I see the merits of both, but totally different takes on the character. WOuld have been very interesting to see Chaplin’s take on some of the insane rants Stuke had to bellow out…

    “And I’m blind man! Blind and drowning in filthy black pus, aaaaaaarrrgghhhh!”

    Within my family for a while there be deadpan shouts of “TEA”… that was quite fun.

    There’s a lot of good stuff in that show looking back.

    “Be cool. Wax your board.”

    #98063
    si
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    Never watched it.

    So there.

    #98062
    Carlito
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    “There is a time to surf, and there is a time to wax your board.” That’s very true, good analogy of life.

    The first series had a lot of literary references, which isn’t surprising considering it was co-written by Andrew Davies.

    Best chat up line ever? “Excuse me, is that a turd on a string?”

    #98070
    Turk Thrust
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    I love the first series but can`t watch the other 2. Stuke`s character was just too different for me and it wasn`t the same show anymore.

    #98079
    Steve Harris
    Participant

    One of those shows I found very funny whilst watching it but forgotten soon after..

    The ‘Ginger Tosser’ phrase had some mileage in our house though due to the gingerness of the wifes side of the family..

    #98090
    Seb Patrick
    Keymaster

    Terrible show.

    #98113
    Nakrophile
    Participant

    I remember it slightly, its now confused in my mind with Coupling.

    #98115
    Carlito
    Participant

    At least Coupling had the decency to change the characters name when they recast for series 4. Even if it was essentially the exact same personality.

    #98116
    Andrew
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    There are serious differences between Jeff and Oliver, though; not the same personalities at all. ‘Nervous around women’ isn’t their sole defining characteristic.

    Oh, and Game On was decent fun. I don’t mind the recasting, though it inevitably leads to using the ‘B’ choice for the part. And I have a lot of time for any show that works to create its own language within the dialogue.

    #98117
    Seb Patrick
    Keymaster

    >I remember it slightly, its now confused in my mind with Coupling.

    *slaps*

    #98118
    Nakrophile
    Participant

    One of the two had Samantha Janus in. That’s about all I can remember.

    #98119
    Carlito
    Participant

    > There are serious differences between Jeff and Oliver, though; not the same personalities at all. ?Nervous around women? isn?t their sole defining characteristic.

    But it is a major component of their actions within the show. Jeff was a much better rounded character, but then he had three seasons to grow. They play the same role, one is slightly different to the other, but they are not by any stretch markedly different.

    #98131
    Andrew
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    > But it is a major component of their actions within the show.

    Christopher Eccleston and and Ricky Tomlinson filled the same role within the format of Cracker, and both shared some ‘disliking Fitz’s methods’ which formed a key, recurring reaction. But those are genre tropes as much as anything. As is ‘prone to getting himself into trouble’ within a farce. They may fill the same gap in the story, but I don’t think that makes them ‘exactly’ the same.

    #98139
    Seb Patrick
    Keymaster

    >One of the two had Samantha Janus in. That?s about all I can remember.

    One of them is brilliant, one of them is rubbish. Neither deserves to be compared with the other.

    #98142
    Tanya Jones
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    I hated Game On when I first saw it, then I saw it again a few years later and realised that it was actually rather good. I don’t have any great preferences between series, but ‘rubbish’ really isn’t fair.

    #98157
    pfm
    Participant

    > unless somebody beats me to the punch?

    Surely they’d be more inclined to slap you?

    I used to love Game On. I don’t think I watched the first series originally so I didn’t even realise there was a recasting for a long time, then seeing a repeat I was like ‘who the fuck is that??’ (well, I probably didn’t swear, but there’s nothing like a good embellishment of a remembered reaction). Neil Stuke is in the new Martin Clunes Reggie Perrin, which I’ve seen nothing of apart from the trail. Samantha Janus is in some programme where people get run over. The little ginger fucker crops up every now and then in shows. I always confuse him with that other ginger waste of time, he was the copper in that People Like Us episode and he was also the policeman in Ideal, and he was just in Moses Jones but perhaps most people here would know him from The Unicorn and The Wasp Who episode where he was the wasp *spoiler* reverend.

    #98163
    Ben Paddon
    Participant

    The theme to Game On makes an appearance in the film Dumb & Dumber.

    FACT.

    #98164
    Pete Part Three
    Participant

    Or, to be more precise, “Where I Find My Heaven” by Gigolo Aunts was in Dumb and Dumber, and later became the theme tune of Game On.

    #98168
    Last Caress
    Participant

    Laugh-out-loud funny for two series, curiously flat (and vaguely depressing) for much of the third. Didn’t mind the changeover from Chaplin to Stuke, thought they were equally good (though admittedly v. different), and didn’t mind them breaking the fourth wall to acknowledge the changeover in S2E1 either.

    #98215
    pfm
    Participant

    > Or, to be more precise, ?Where I Find My Heaven? by Gigolo Aunts was in Dumb and Dumber

    You can’t triple stamp a double stamp.

    #98217
    Kris Carter
    Participant

    Tell her I have a rapist wit.

    #98227
    Carlito
    Participant

    Watched it last night on Comedy Central. Still great.

    #98255
    Al
    Participant

    Have to weigh in on this one – Game On was a truly excellent programme. Puerile and silly in places, but it wasnt meant to be high drama. That might also be a defence often used for things being utter shit (like Hardware) but in this case, as a reaction to all the PC bullshit of the 80’s Game On must’ve been a breath of fresh air, and I think it still stands the test of time.

    The three (four) leads acted their roles well and their delivery of certain lines was just sublime.

    “Are you…. ripping the piss… out of The Fury?”

    #98257
    pfm
    Participant

    The fact that Matthew is listening to the Manics’ Gold Against The Soul album in one episode automatically makes it a good show. That and Samantha Janus looking great.

    #98261
    ChrisM
    Participant

    Then there was the episode with the vacuum cleaner.

    (I found it very funny though. But then for me puerile humour doesn’t equate to not funny. I hasten to add, I don’t JUST like that kind of humour though. Different things make me laugh.)

    #98269
    Carlito
    Participant

    Hmmm… the vacuum cleaner was series 3… best forgotten about.

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