Home › Forums › Ganymede & Titan Forum › Back to Earth > ? Search for: This topic has 36 replies, 27 voices, and was last updated 15 years, 10 months ago by Phil. Scroll to bottom Viewing 37 posts - 1 through 37 (of 37 total) Author Posts April 16, 2009 at 11:02 am #3376 Zombie Jim UndeadParticipant Right, so now we’ve had a little time to deliberate, cogitate and digest, where does Back to Earth place on your all-time favourite Dwarf? For me, as far as series are concerned (even though BtE isn’t a complete series)…it goes V>II>IV>III>VI>I>BtE>VIII>VII As for individual episodes, I preferred Back to Earth to: Everything in 7 and 8….apart from maybe Cassandra. Emohawk, Camille, Meltdown, Backwards, Waiting for God. April 16, 2009 at 11:05 am #97039 Turk ThrustParticipant On a similar level to Series VII and below everything else. April 16, 2009 at 11:12 am #97042 NakrophileParticipant teh winnorz > bte > teh suxxorz But final judgement waits for the DVD. April 16, 2009 at 11:13 am #97043 cliffParticipant I still don’t understand why the episodes were not filmed in front of a live audience……..this left the atmosphere cold and in my opinion weakened the whole trilogy. There is a quality in live shows that reflects in the performances and the jokes are certainly times better, i just felt deflated by this. April 16, 2009 at 11:18 am #97045 Pete Part ThreeParticipant I’m unable to view BTE as anything aside from three episodes of varying quality. Even lumped together I’d say that the beginning is ropey, the middle is good and the ending is mostly awful. April 16, 2009 at 11:20 am #97047 siParticipant It definitely works better as a whole. I’m going to have to go away and think about this… April 16, 2009 at 11:21 am #97048 p2p_productionsParticipant V > IV > VI > BtE > I > III > VII > II > VIII April 16, 2009 at 11:25 am #97050 Another PhilParticipant I have provisionally placed BtE 28th (after only one viewing) in my personal all-time list. That puts it above the following Series 1-6 eps: The End, Demons and Angels, Bodyswap, Rimmerworld, Parallel Universe, Confidence and Paranoia, Better Than Life, Waiting for God and Emohawk: Polymorph 2. By series, it goes 4>5>3>2>6>1>BtE>7>8. April 16, 2009 at 11:26 am #97051 Seb PatrickKeymaster I still don?t understand why the episodes were not filmed in front of a live audience I know… if only someone had talked about it anywhere! I think this calls for a G&T Investigation… April 16, 2009 at 11:30 am #97056 Ian SymesKeymaster Considering my rankings for the first six series change on a daily basis, this is very difficult. But I think broadly speaking, I-VI > BTE > VII > VIII. And that’s the best that I could have hoped for. April 16, 2009 at 11:30 am #97055 Turk ThrustParticipant > I have provisionally placed BtE 28th (after only one viewing) in my personal all-time list. That puts it above the following Series 1-6 eps: The End, Demons and Angels, Bodyswap, Rimmerworld, Parallel Universe, Confidence and Paranoia, Better Than Life, Waiting for God and Emohawk: Polymorph 2. As these eps were broadcast individually though, shouldn`t they be judged individually really? In the same way that G&T recently compiled a list of their favourite 52 eps a while ago considering BitR and Pete to be multi-parters. April 16, 2009 at 11:32 am #97057 cliffParticipant release the kracken!…. April 16, 2009 at 11:32 am #97058 cliffParticipant Surely the actors themselves would have prefered it… April 16, 2009 at 11:33 am #97059 Turk ThrustParticipant > I still don?t understand why the episodes were not filmed in front of a live audience In terms of time, money and not wanting stories to leak it was understandable. In terms of the actual episodes, I agree that they should have been filmed in front of an audience. The Back to Reality stuff the audience could have coped with (they did the first time after all) and the dramatic scenes weren`t too dramatic either. After all, other audience sitcoms have effectively dealt with the funerals of cast members in the past and not suffered. April 16, 2009 at 11:36 am #97060 cliffParticipant it also effected the timing of the humour which seemed stale. April 16, 2009 at 11:41 am #97061 cliffParticipant still…Sophie Winkleman eh?………….. April 16, 2009 at 11:44 am #97063 Another PhilParticipant >> I have provisionally placed BtE 28th (after only one viewing) in my personal all-time list. That puts it above the following Series 1-6 eps: The End, Demons and Angels, Bodyswap, Rimmerworld, Parallel Universe, Confidence and Paranoia, Better Than Life, Waiting for God and Emohawk: Polymorph 2. >As these eps were broadcast individually though, shouldn`t they be judged individually really? In the same way that G&T recently compiled a list of their favourite 52 eps a while ago considering BitR and Pete to be multi-parters. Fine, in that case, Part 1 goes in 37th out of 55 (between Rimmerworld and Parallel Universe), Part 3 goes in 29th (between Stasis Leak and The End, just like the whole 3-parter originally did) and Part 2 goes in 26th (between Out of Time and Backwards. Yes G&T, I have OOT in 25th place. Apart from that, though, our lists aren’t massively different.) April 16, 2009 at 11:44 am #97064 Pete Part ThreeParticipant >As these eps were broadcast individually though, shouldn`t they be judged individually really? In the same way that G&T recently compiled a list of their favourite 52 eps a while ago considering BitR and Pete to be multi-parters. QFT April 16, 2009 at 11:46 am #97065 PhilParticipant I preferred Back to Earth to: Waiting For God Only the Good Pete (the episodes and the forum-visitor) Beyond a Joke That might about do it. April 16, 2009 at 12:03 pm #97067 PhilPagettParticipant VI-II-V-IV-III-VII-I-BTE-VIII April 16, 2009 at 12:16 pm #97069 RicheyParticipant I-VI > VII > BTE > VIII April 16, 2009 at 12:28 pm #97071 DessieParticipant V-III-IV-BtE-II-VI-I-VII-VIII April 16, 2009 at 2:36 pm #96717 JoParticipant >I still don?t understand why the episodes were not filmed in front of a live audience Based on the fact that you didn’t show shock and surprise to Nick’s post which stated what the majority of us already knew… that it was down to the timescales and the massively tight budget, clearly what you meant to say was that you do understand why they didn’t have an audience but you wanted to complain about it again anyway. And whether the actors would have preferred it is irrelevant since them wanting an audience doesn’t create more time or increase the available budget to make this possible. Also in answer to the original question… I don’t know. I’ve not decided yet. I’m finding it hard to place it, I really enjoyed BtE but at the same time I don’t feel as though it fits in with Red Dwarf as a series… April 17, 2009 at 5:15 pm #97306 JamesTCParticipant VI>III>V>IV>BTE>II>VIII>VII>I I prefer BTE as a whole to most Red Dwarf stories, not as good as ‘Backwards’, ‘Back to Reality’, ‘Out of Time’ or ‘Meltdown’ but still pretty high up. April 17, 2009 at 6:09 pm #97307 littlesmeggerParticipant Not only in my opinion was lack of audience down to budget, but I can’t really see an audience do it’s job properly when 50% of it was filmed on green screen… they wouldn’t have a clue what was going on! Plus the plot would’ve been online quicker then a ‘celebrities’ sex vid. And that’s pretty darn quick! And as for it fitting in within the series… it isn’t a series, it’s a standalone special. So for that reason alone I feel it doesn’t fit in anywhere. When Series X comes along, THEN we can rate the new standard… April 17, 2009 at 6:12 pm #97308 NitroChrisUKParticipant vi-iii-ii-iv-bte-v-i-vii-viii April 17, 2009 at 6:24 pm #97309 SkyAndSunParticipant For me the important thing is, as the guys said on the podcast, BTE can hold its own against series I-VI. That’s a first for a Doug solo script, in my view. April 17, 2009 at 6:54 pm #97311 Danny StephensonKeymaster it isn?t a series, it?s a standalone special. So for that reason alone I feel it doesn?t fit in anywhere. This. All i know is that i enjoyed it more than VIII but not as much as some parts of VII. That’s not to say it was crap, far from it. But in terms of Doug-solo Dwarf, it’s better than VIII. IMHO April 17, 2009 at 10:20 pm #97348 Stabbim the SkutterParticipant II> IV> V> BtE> VI> III> VII> VIII> I Woot for nonconformism! Though I need to re-watch VII and VIII, I’m not quite sure where they sit at the moment… April 18, 2009 at 1:26 am #97366 MuzzyParticipant II-I-III-IV-VI-BTE-VII-V-VIII April 18, 2009 at 1:43 am #97368 Ben PaddonParticipant This is quite a ridiculous and impossible task. April 18, 2009 at 3:13 am #97370 CarlitoParticipant V > VI > II > III > BTE > IV > VIII > VII > I April 18, 2009 at 3:15 am #97371 MnoooahParticipant I…. uh…. gah, jury’s still out for me. I definately place it before VIII, but beyond that… I’ll have to watch it again. April 18, 2009 at 9:11 am #97383 AnonymousInactive VIII is the weakest series IMO and BtE ranks alongside it. April 18, 2009 at 12:48 pm #97403 siParticipant I decided the only way to do this was to (re-)rate Red Dwarf episode by episode rather than series by series. When that proved impossible, I decided upon: IV > III > II > V > BtE > VI > VIII > I > VII Although Queeg remains possibly my fave episode. Bearing in mind my fave episodes of each series are Future Echoes, Queeg, Marooned, Justice, Quarantine, Gunmen of the Apocalypse, Stoke Me A Clipper and Cassandra, the idea of placing all the episodes in order is ridiculous as, for example, I prefer Cassandra over lots of series VI. Y’see, this is why I never really got involved in the ‘Top 51…’ thread… April 18, 2009 at 2:05 pm #97408 Nick RParticipant V VI IV II III I Rimmer episodes of VII Cassandra Rimmer-free episodes of VII Back to Earth [[[Everything above this line is watchable]]] All of VIII except Cassandra . . . . Pete Part 2 Bearing in mind my fave episodes of each series are Future Echoes, Queeg, Marooned, Justice, Quarantine, Gunmen of the Apocalypse, Stoke Me A Clipper and Cassandra, That’s close to my list, although I’d have Dimension Jump instead of Justice, and possibly also Me^2 instead of Future Echoes. April 18, 2009 at 5:08 pm #97425 PhilParticipant >my fave episodes of each series are Ooh, I like this game. 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