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  • #214855
    (deleted)
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    Something I’ve been wondering about for ages now – is there still no proper repository of audience recording dates for the BBC era of Dwarf? It’s always struck me as weird that they’ve never been printed anywhere as is de rigeur for most ‘classic’ audience shows, and they’re one of the very, very few things that Andrew Ellard never got around to writing an article on at his peak of paperwork pervery. We know pretty much the recording orders, and virtually the Dave era dates, but the rest is still unconfirmed, is that right? Even a massive book on the making of Gunmen doesn’t have the date it was made, bar stating it was a Saturday. There are also some dates listed in the VIII book, but even considering all the reshooting and shared studio nights they still look very weird and inaccurate (or misleading at best) to me. As for VII, though we know it was shot differently and more loosely to accomodate the revolving cast changes and elaborate set pieces, surely it was filmed vaguely in episode blocks just for rehearsal/production management reasons?

    Would this be a good collaborative project, or even possible? I’m kicking myself for never getting them off INFAX at the time, but maybe someone did?

    Here’s what I found during a ‘can this be done?’ trawl:

    DAVE ERA

    BACK TO EARTH
    Shot between 31/1/09 and 6/3/09

    SERIES X
    Trojan 16/12/11
    Fathers And Suns 23/12/11
    Lemons 7/1/12
    Entangled 13/1/16 (first two thirds), ? (final third)
    Dear Dave 20/1/16 (partial), ? (pickups)
    The Beginning 27/1/16

    SERIES XI
    Twentica 18/12/15
    Samsara 11/12/15
    Give And Take 13/11/15
    Officer Rimmer 4/12/15
    Krysis 27/11/15
    Can Of Worms 20/11/15

    SERIES XII (RX order only, shows 1-5 will likely jumble)
    Show One 29/1/16
    Show Two 5/2/16
    Show Three 12/2/16
    Show Four 19/2/16
    Show Five 26/2/16
    Show Six 9/3/16 (rescheduled from 4/3/16)

    OTHER CONFIRMED DATES

    Smeg Outs 9/9/95
    Identity Within reading 9/5/05
    Grant & Naylor reunion 16/5/07

    WEIRD PROBABLY WRONG SERIES VIII DATES FROM THE BOOK
    Back In The Red Part One 13/9/98
    Back In The Red Part Two 15/9/98
    Back In The Red Part Three 19/9/98
    Cassandra 13/9/98
    Krytie TV 19/10/98
    Pete Part One 29/19/98
    Pete Part Two 7/11/98
    Only The Good 7/11/98

    Also from a G&T news page in 2005:
    “Back In The Red recording” 28/9/98
    “Back In The Red reshoot” 30/11/98

    THINGS OTHER THAN SERIES 1-VII IT WOULD BE NICE TO KNOW
    Smeg Ups
    Six Of The Best
    Red Dwarf Night (apparently it was all done on one day?)
    Xtended
    Bodysnatcher reading
    Children In Need (same day as BITR3?)

    So… is anyone sitting on a big treasure trove of sexy RX dates? Is this worth making a frankly pornographic spreadsheet?

    #214858
    Seb Patrick
    Keymaster

    Uh. They’re all on TOS. In the “Complete Guide” section.

    #214859
    (deleted)
    Participant

    Shit the bed, so they are. I’d never clicked that tab before, always assumed it was a link back to the previous menu. I’ve never got on with that drop-down navigation, which is a shame because all the text is book-quality.

    I swear I spent ages looking for them earlier. Ah well, it was far from in vain, and there are still a few to pin down.

    Permission to… poo myself, sir.

    #214863
    Seb Patrick
    Keymaster

    It is a bit of a fiddly navigation, and something I’ve wanted to fix for a while. Watch this space.

    #214864
    McAleeCh
    Participant

    …Except for Series VII, for some reason. Do we have a list of dates for that series? I know it was shot in a more film/drama-like manner than other ‘Dwarf series (i.e. single camera, no audience) – do we know if the episodes were shot in defined ‘blocks’ at all, or were scenes from multiple episodes shot simultanously? The latter would certainly explain the lack of any recording dates, I guess – would be a nightmare to pin down what got shot when…

    #214865
    McAleeCh
    Participant

    (Above post was supposed to be a reply to Seb’s comment that all the dates are up on TOS – edit function seems to be broken so can’t go back and quote his post to make that clearer. Apologies!)

    #214866
    (deleted)
    Participant

    Series VII would surely have had to have been done in blocks for Chris Barrie reasons alone (block 1 would have to have been Tikka/Clipper/prefilming for Blue & Ouroboros, and the last block seems to have been Duct Soup on its own), but surely it was still rehearsed, which would mean it was kept roughly to an episode order.

    I would buy a book of series VII filming schedules. Not even remotely joking.

    #214869
    thomasaevans
    Participant

    In all seriousness – we’re due a book. Red Dwarf Vault?

    #214871
    si
    Participant

    Well, there’s Total Immersion. I still haven’t got all the way through that. An encyclopedia isn’t thenkind of book that lends itself to a complete cover-to-cover reading. It’s a flick-through-and-see-lots-of-interesting-entries kind of book.

    An updated edition of The Programme Guide would be nice, but I don’t think it unreasonable for there to be some kind of Dwarfy biblio-explosion around the thirtierth anniversary.

    #214872
    si
    Participant

    Well, there’s Total Immersion. I still haven’t got all the way through that. An encyclopedia isn’t the kind of book that lends itself to a complete cover-to-cover reading. It’s a flick-through-and-see-lots-of-interesting-entries kind of book.

    An updated edition of The Programme Guide would be nice, but I don’t think it unreasonable for there to be some kind of Dwarfy biblio-explosion around the thirtieth anniversary.

    #215954
    (deleted)
    Participant

    TOS update features ludicrously prominent RX dates.

    Take a bow.

    #215955
    Ian Symes
    Keymaster

    You’ve basically become some sort of clairvoyant in recent weeks.

    Or a spy. He’s blatantly a spy.

    #215956
    (deleted)
    Participant

    I wish I’d have mentioned on here and not just a Messenger chat with someone the other week about “four Chris Barries in barbershop quartet gear”, but I’m worrying myself too.

    #215958
    Seb Patrick
    Keymaster

    TOS update features ludicrously prominent RX dates.
    Take a bow.

    I know you won’t believe me, but these (and the whole grid-based nav for the Guide in general) were a feature of a layout I proposed last year, that for various reasons didn’t end up happening back then, but which we were able to work into this one instead. I promise you that the timing of this thread was just a coincidence!

    You’ll note that my “watch this space” was no idle boast…

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