One reason why my sister is the best possible sister on this planet

[TheLeen]

She gave me a Pacman board gane for my birthday.

Apparently, she and her fiance spent months cutting, sawing, printing and gluing stuff… including a wooden board, ruleset, box, all sorts of pellets and fruits, special dice, and no less than 300 quiz cards with carefully researched geeky questions and answers.

I’m smitten!

I’ll take pictures some time this week and playtest it, too, as soon as possible ;)

Topic

[Seb Patrick]

> > isn?t it a bit awkward to discuss the casually sexist nature of a term like ?pussy whipped? in a forum wherin everyone calls each other a cunt on a daily basis?

>What Marleen said.

There’s a bit of a difference, though. “Cunt”, when used as an insult, is non gender-specific. When you call someone a cunt, you’re not actually calling someone a piece of female genitalia, nor are you suggesting there’s anything wrong with female genitalia. It’s exactly the same as calling someone “twat”, “dick”, “knob”, “cock” or anything else. Or the way we use “fucking” in a way that has absolutely nothing to do with fornication.

With “pussy-whipped”, however, it’s not the use of the word “pussy” that gets me (although it’s never a word I’ve particularly liked, as it happens) – it’s the phrase as a whole, and what it implies. It does have gender-specific meaning, and it is denigrating towards that gender. It’s the meaning behind the word that matters. I’d consider it far more offensive to call a woman a “whore”, for example, than I would to call her a “cunt”.

[TheLeen]

I get it. Thanks for the clarification.

> ?Cunt?, when used as an insult, is non gender-specific. When you call someone a cunt, you?re not actually calling someone a piece of female genitalia,

This would be differently conceived in Germany/German. Don’t call anyone Fotze. It is very gender-specific, it is very much calling someone female genitalia, and just as tasteless to use as a cussword as calling something gay. Just more offensive.

[Andrew]

I’m not saying anyone’s right or wrong, simply that I concur with the view that when you use one offensive term so constantly, with a sense of justification, it’s hard to blanket-deny someone else’s use of a term that they feel they have justification in using. I don’t especially disagree with the logic, but I DO think it’s a bit awkward (not wrong or right, just complicated) that ‘cunt’ is used so readily while taking against other terms that, for many, carry an equal, or lesser, level of offence. (Regardless of whether they SHOULD carry that level.)

[mick]

Can we get back to the important topic here please peeps.

Marleen, are we or are we not going to get a picture of your sister’s norks?

[Seb Patrick]

>I concur with the view that when you use one offensive term so constantly, with a sense of justification, it?s hard to blanket-deny someone else?s use of a term that they feel they have justification in using

A perfectly valid point; but we were talking specifically about sexist language, not offensive language in general. Plenty of people are offended by strong language, but G&T from the very beginning has set its stall out as a site where you expect to encounter, as the BBFC would put it, “sexual swear words”. However, we’re as one vehemently opposed to language that is “-ist” in any way, and it’s my view (but feel free to argue it!) that “pussy-whipped” falls into that category, and “cunt” doesn’t. And hey, I’m not trying to moderate or censor here – I’m not telling Smeg4Brains (or anyone else) not to say it. Just trying to articulate why I don’t like it.

[Tanya Jones]

What Seb said; and I concur with David Baddiel’s opinion that ‘cunt’ is a far better swear word than a word for female genitalia. I find ‘muff’, or ‘vag’ better terms for my downstairs part.

[Andrew]

Oh, I’m not debating the relative sexism of the terms or anything – I do think they’re debatable, but I don’t disagree with Seb’s position – I’m just agreeing that it’s not straightforward and all rendered more complex given this site’s proclivities.

[Ian Symes]

What Seb said; and I concur with David Baddiel?s opinion that ?cunt? is a far better swear word than a word for female genitalia. I find ?muff?, or ?vag? better terms for my downstairs part.

I don’t think there are *any* words I’m completely comfortable using to describe a ladies area. There certainly aren’t any that are particularly alluring or sexy. My foul fucking mouth has rendered me ill-equipped for sex talk.

[TheLeen]

I quite like “Xena”.

And now we’re way off topic.

[Zombie Jim Undead]

> My foul fucking mouth

That’s what my girlfriend calls hers.

[Phil]

>I don?t think there are *any* words I?m completely comfortable using to describe a ladies area. There certainly aren?t any that are particularly alluring or sexy. My foul fucking mouth has rendered me ill-equipped for sex talk.

And suddenly I feel so much less alone in the world.

[Seb Patrick]

>I don?t think there are *any* words I?m completely comfortable using to describe a ladies area. There certainly aren?t any that are particularly alluring or sexy.

This.

[TheLeen]

Should we invent one? There seems to be a global need.

[Seb Patrick]

I like the sound of “Fotze”, actually. I think we should appropriate that.

Anything’s got to be better than “minge”.

[Zombie Jim Undead]

“Clunge.”

[John Hoare]

A great big hairy fanny.

[Seb Patrick]

I didn’t used to think “fanny” was that bad, but now all it makes me think of is Partridge.

[Danny Stephenson]

?Clunge.?

That has to be among the worst words in the world. But we do need the word “cunt” as it’s the only word I can think of to describe Iain Lee.

I’ve found that “Faff” is not a particularly vulgar word to me.

[Danny Stephenson]

i would also like to apologise to Marleen on behalf of the management for the direction this thread has taken…

[Zombie Jim Undead]

“Ms. Pac Man”

That’s not offensive is it?

[Jonathan Capps]

I expected this thread to be one big argument, but instead I find lots of words for fannies. I approve.

[Jonathan Capps]

THE ANTI-PENIS.

[Zombie Jim Undead]

> THE ANTI-PENIS.

HOW DARE YOU SUGGEST THAT WOMANHOOD IS NO MORE THAN THE ABSENCE OF MANHOOD.

YOU FUCKING COCKLESS TWAT.

[Zombie Jim Undead]

(Tee-hee.)

[ChrisM]

The little furry bud of lurve…

Bit of a mouthful though. The line. The line.

[Jonathan Capps]

Elliot from Scrubs always calls it a “bajingo”, which I’ve always liked.

[Dave]

Life’s abyss

[Smeg4Brains]

Gateway to her guts.

[Pete Part Three]

Hairy axe-wound.

[Ian Symes]

Vertical bacon sandwich.

(With monthly dollops of tomato ketchup.)

[Phil]

>Life?s abyss

…and then you die?

[TheLeen]

Xena!

[Tanya Jones]

Actually, Xena is the best suggestion we’ve had so far. My mum used to refer to my muff as a ‘min’ when I was little, which was presumably short for ‘minge’. Imagine my childish sniggering when I had to email a Chinese colleague who, for some reason, had decided that was the perfect abbreviation of her name for non-Chinese people.

[Danny Stephenson]

The Goon Show would never sound right again.

[mick]

This thread has brought me nothing but disappointment, I’m off to play with my man boobs…

[Arlene Rimmer BSc SSc]

Fuck. I spend one night, one night, not staying up on the intertubes like a weirdo and this is what I miss–feminist debate and names for ladies’ bits. Goddamnit, why do I even bother with sleep at all?

[Dave]

Intertubes

[James]

Last chicken gibblet in the shop look?

I prefer the Swedish translation of the word C, it’s “Fitta”

Anyway, the Pac-person game is wonderful.

[TheLeen]

I was outbid for the MB Pac-Man game! How annoying :[

In other news, I have written a proper (I think) review for my sister’s game.

[ChrisM]

Did you see The Wrong door?

There was weird pack-man (and other computer game) related stuff in the last episode…

A very strange series that. I quite like it.

[TheLeen]

I don’t know it… I think you probably have to be in the UK to have seen it, too. If it was on recently.

[ChrisM]

>I don?t know it? I think you probably have to be in the UK to have seen it, too. If it was on recently.

Yeah, I didn’t expect you had really (although you might like to seek it out if you like surreal stuff.) I meant ‘you’ in the general sense, i.e. anyone who read the post.

That’s the think about English, we have the same word for singular you and plural… Most other European languages have both (i.e. French, tu and vous etc.)

Anyhow, it’s a sketch show sort of set in a parallel universe. A lot of it seems to be sci-fi or fantasy related. Some of the sketches are genuinely funny, others kind of… just out there. For example there was a sketch where a girl is sitting in a tube station (I.e. London Underground) and she hear’s a strange noise and several huge 3-D CGI pac-man type characters come trundling past down the rail. There is another where she is crossing a zebra crossing and a section of the road shoots up in front of her freaking her out (like in a Mario game). Another sketch where anyone who orders “Death by Chocolate” for afters in a restaurant get’s killed by a CGI ninja in strange chocolate related ways… and a weird Alice in Wonderland spoof set in an office.

Not everyone’s cup of tea, although I quite like it. (I’ve seen more consistently funny stuff elsewhere though.)

[TheLeen]

Sounds good!

[Ian Symes]

It’s not.

[TheLeen]

But I want it to be!

[pfm]

> My mum used to refer to my muff as a ?min? when I was little, which was presumably short for ?minge?.

I don’t know how I’m managing to type this cause I can hardly breathe with laughing…:)

OK back to the word ‘cunt’. It’s definitely more offensive in America because it IS seen as more of a derogatory term for a woman rather than for both sexes. You only have to read some Stephen King to get that.

[Jonathan Capps]

> You only have to read some Stephen King to get that.

Do I have to?

[Andrew]

> > You only have to read some Stephen King to get that.

> Do I have to?

He’s great – or at least he was. So :-p

[Phil]

>He?s great – or at least he was. So :-p

NOT. AGAIN.

[Dave]

Joss Whedon said of the word ‘Cunt’ that it sounded disgusting and derogatory in an American accent, but in a British accent it sounded cool.

I looked for the exact quote to no avail, but of course all I could find were articles by idiots entitled Joss Whedon is a cunt.

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