Russell Two Davies

[Nick R]

Apparently, today there was some news about a change to Doctor Who’s production staff, in some obscure behind-the-scenes role. I don’t know if anyone else heard about it?

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[Dave]

Either way, Paul McGann is great in the role and he should get to come back if he wants to and there’s a good opportunity.

This is probably the crux of it. He’s really good and people have always wanted him to have more of a shot at the role, and at a time when the show is in flux and it might be hard to get any actor to commit to being the next Doctor given the uncertainty, a throwback with an old Doctor who can still credibly play the role (and who isn’t David Tennant again) might be the best way of plugging that gap.

[Ridley]

Narratively useful that his screen time is next to zero too.

[sleepey]

Maybe he’s doing the CBeebies thing? The original post just said he’s “acting”, could be voice acting

[Renegade Rob]

Paul McGann would be a fantastic Sixteenth Doctor though. And later on, an excellent Twenty-fourth Doctor. Every eighth Doctor should be Paul McGann, really. 

[Dave]

Has anyone else been watching The War Between The Land And The Sea? It’s four episodes in now with just one to go (this Sunday).

I think RTD should be embarrassed by this series. Because it’s written by someone else and it’s head and shoulders above what he’s been doing with the main Doctor Who show for the past couple of years.

It’s still not amazing top-tier TV, but it’s telling an engaging story in an entertaining way, with good performances and makeup/effects and some interesting ideas at the heart of it.

It also manages to incorporate progressive aspects (particularly when it comes to environmental stuff) without beating you over the head with it or being overly blunt.

Even Russell Tovey is likeable in it!

I wish Doctor Who had been more like this for the past couple of years. 

[Ben Saunders]

I watched the first two episodes, and they weren’t enough to convince me to keep watching. But I might tune in if everybody says it’s amazing or something. So far it’s a lot of standing around, and someone said if they really did that to the sea then millions of people would probably die, which I believe based on almost nothing.

[Ben Saunders]

Also, everybody is unbearably smug, in a really offputting way. Kate Stewart is smug, Salt is smug, UNIT are all smug. Smug. Smug smug smug smug smug.

[Rushy]

Also, everybody is unbearably smug, in a really offputting way. Kate Stewart is smug, Salt is smug, UNIT are all smug. Smug. Smug smug smug smug smug.

New Who and post-2017 Trek in a nutshell really

[Dave]

Also, everybody is unbearably smug, in a really offputting way. Kate Stewart is smug, Salt is smug, UNIT are all smug. Smug. Smug smug smug smug smug.

I know what you mean with Kate, but I found that episodes three and four pushed back on this a bit.

[Warbodog]

New Who and post-2017 Trek in a nutshell really

And pre-2017 Trek.

[Ian Symes]

I’ve only watched the first two episodes, has Russell Tovey shagged the big fish yet?

[Dave]

I’ve only watched the first two episodes, has Russell Tovey shagged the big fish yet?

That’s no way to talk about Kate etc. 

[Nick R]

I’ve only watched the first two episodes, has Russell Tovey shagged the big fish yet?

I don’t know, but he has shagged (worked with) the Big Fi(ni)sh.

[Dave]

I’ll be delighted if this entire miniseries ends up as an origin story for Jim the Fish.

[Dave]

Unfortunately the fifth and final episode was terrible. Felt like a different show entirely and threw away all the potential of the preceding episodes. What a shame.

[Ben Saunders]

“We got owned… we got rusted” and the whole bit leading up to that had me saying “ooohhhhhhhh nnnooooooooo” out loud. I haven’t seen cringe like this in a long time.

[Ben Saunders]

Listen, I’m not saying the Sea Devils got what was coming to them, but…

Episode four was my favourite, because for a very brief moment it felt like the show wasn’t being so bloody self-important and serious.

Episode five didn’t feel much different to me in the way Dave says, although I do have to ask why Doctor Who/TWBTLATS is so bad at the “emotional ending set to pop music” thing that American shows are often so good at. It was shit in Rosa and it’s shit here.

There was a line where Barclay’s mate said “she’s sushi mate”, and I genuinely thought he meant it like she’s fit/sexy, but I think he actually meant she’s dead.

[Ben Saunders]

Kate Stewart is insane. She should be locked up. She’s a danger to herself and others.

[Technopeasant]

There was a line where Barclay’s mate said “she’s sushi mate”, and I genuinely thought he meant it like she’s fit/sexy, but I think he actually meant she’s dead.

[Ben Saunders]

This guy is awful. Generic character, generic dialogue, and I can’t tell if that’s his real accent, but it better be otherwise idk what he thinks he’s doing.

[Ridley]

Colin McFarlane has a pretty distinctive voice.

[Ben Saunders]

Well he’s at least a little less wooden there

[Dave]

Yeah, I remembered him from The Fast Show too. I’m sure he’s cropped up in other stuff, always very recognisable.

[Spaceworm Jim]

He’s in The Dark Knight, isn’t he? Drinks himself to death.

[Warbodog]

He’s in one of the better post-Quentin Jonathan Creeks too, but I did first think of the Fast Show.

[Rushy]

 And pre-2017 Trek.

I like the Abrams films. If that’s what you’re referring to?

[Warbodog]

 And pre-2017 Trek.

I like the Abrams films. If that’s what you’re referring to?

Early TNG’s enlightened arrogance was the first thing to spring to mind, because I’ve been trying to watch it again.

[Rushy]

Enlightened arrogance?

[Dave]

[Technopeasant]

I like the Abrams films. If that’s what you’re referring to?

[Quinn: Clochebusters World Champion]

I also like the Kelvinverse 

Star Trek 2009 is one of my favourite films. Not just Star Trek films. All films. 

[Technopeasant]

I also like the Kelvinverse 
Star Trek 2009 is one of my favourite films. Not just Star Trek films. All films. 

Star Trek Beyond was okay I guess.

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