SFX: Back To Earth – Double Page Spread

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My subscriber’s copy of the April issue of SFX (#181) has *literally* just popped through the door, and pages 8 and 9 have a two page feature, talking to Doug Naylor, and featuring two new photo’s that none of us have seen before! One is of Kryten, Cat and Lister (*Not* a backstage shot either – on set, during a scene), the other a full length shot of Lister in his black get-up. Nice.

Will post more – maybe – when I’ve actually read it…

Topic

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Explanation for lack of Kochanski and Holly!

[Jonathan Capps]

Excellent, si! I’ll have to buy the bastard, now.

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Right, read it. If I just typed out the article, I suspect SFX would be a little unhappy.

But, Doug Naylor: “It starts nine years [later]… Kochanski has died and Holly is down.”

“Rimmer…has aged, even though holograms shouldn’t – he hasn’t had holo-services because he didn’t know about them.”

And finally: “People have been guessing about what’s going to happen, and no-one’s got it right. I’d be very, very surprised if they do.”

The next five weeks are going to seem like an eternity…

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SFX out next Wednesday, 11th March.

[Jonathan Capps]

Wow, that’s an early subscription!

[Jonathan Capps]

> But, Doug Naylor: ?It starts nine years [later]? Kochanski has died and Holly is down.?

Hah! Dead. Dead as a can of SPAM.

> ?Rimmer?has aged, even though holograms shouldn?t – he hasn?t had holo-services because he didn?t know about them.?

That is brilliant.

[Mr-Stabby]

So Kochanski is dead (yay….*cough*). Why is she not a hologram instead of Rimmer? Where does the new woman come into it? Why is Rimmer ACTUALLY a hologram in the first place, he must have died at some point?

Find out after the break..

[Pete Part Three]

Did Chloe not want to be in it? Or was this an excuse to get rid of the character? Bit harsh on Ms Annett if so.

The casting of Sophie seems to be Series VII / potential movie cast all over again. And my alarm bells just wont stop ringing.

>That is brilliant.

Is it?! I’m hoping this is not mentioned in the episodes themselves.

[Bob Loblaw]

Maybe Kochanski’s death sheds some light on the pic of Craig with the book/photo?

[Pete Part Three]

And the tone of these episodes, presumably.

[Jonathan Capps]

> Is it?! I?m hoping this is not mentioned in the episodes themselves.

Yes! It explains his aging (which, fair enough, isn’t really needed) but in an amusing way.

> The casting of Sophie seems to be Series VII / potential movie cast all over again. And my alarm bells just wont stop ringing.

Does it ever get tiresome being you?

[Pete Part Three]

>Does it ever get tiresome being you?

Haha.

No.

But it gets a bit dull being right all the time.

[ChrisM]

>?Rimmer?has aged, even though holograms shouldn?t – he hasn?t had holo-services because he didn?t know about them.?

He should have been ancient on Rimmerworld then. Maybe those worry balls helped compensate. ;)

[p2p_productions]

The explanation for why Holly doesn’t appear in BtE is mentioned too…

…Lister left the tap on 9 years ago. The ship was flooded and he hasn’t dried out yet.

[Dax101]

makes me wonder if the new hologram girl is set to replace kochanski as regular character :/

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The explanation for why Holly doesn?t appear in BtE is mentioned too?

?Lister left the tap on 9 years ago. The ship was flooded and he hasn?t dried out yet.

Yeah. I did leave that out so as not to spoil the joke.

[pfm]

> He should have been ancient on Rimmerworld then.

Rimmerworld didn’t happen. It was just a dream. That’s that solved then.

[Dax101]

Rimmerworld plothole… not good

[NitroChrisUK]

upload the new pics dammit … i wonder if we will get any explanation for which rimmer it is

[JamesTC]

It is the new Rimmer but dead almost certainly.

[Dax101]

if its the new rimmer that might explain he aged and why the other rimmer didnt

[ChrisM]

>Rimmerworld plothole? not good

As I said, the worry balls! Grinding his balls kept him young. ;)

[Dax101]

well thats me staying young forever

[Ridley]

Why is Rimmer ACTUALLY a hologram in the first place, he must have died at some point?

Right at the end of series VIII.

[Steve Harris]

Am I the only one slightly saddened by the fact that Chloe is no more (seemingly).

I cant help thinking that Katerina’s arrival has something to do with Rimmer, possibly bringing the wrong person back.

It also may follow that the ‘black’ book seen being read by Lister is Kochanski’s diary.

Still, there’s a million possibilities but perhaps a theme is beginning to take shape..

[Ridley]

Still, there?s a million possibilities but perhaps a theme is beginning to take shape..

There is a question of how Lister will carry himself not having her around (again) and how it affects the tone of the episodes.

Scrubs in Spaaaace

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I’m guessing that VIII Rimmer and Kochanski both died in the same incident, then the others tried to bring them back as holograms but they only had Rimmer’s personality, then Kochanski’s and Katerina’s were mixed up or something (perhaps their similar names were the cause). That’s probably wrong but you never know.

In the end I would still prefer the original Rimmer back.

[JamesTC]

Well any holo disc they had an Dwarf for Kochanski would be for the original version and not for the alternative dimension one, if she died then they would not be able to bring her back.

[Dax101]

as this magazine is suppost to be in the shops next week, i gather thats when we will start getting interviews and officail pictures, maybe even trailer

[SkyAndSun]

Initial impressions:

I didn’t like series VII and VIII. But Kochanski – dead? That seems a little unfair (unless Chloe told Doug she wanted to leave the show permanently) as I feel it was the quality of the scripts rather than the actress that let that character down. Worry: replacing weakly-written female character with another – the new hologram.

Rimmer’s aging explanation: that is quite funny. Although I hope the ‘utterly throwaway explanation’ thing isn’t used much at all. It was used to resolve the climax of series VI and I kind of felt it was saying, ‘I can’t come up with a decent way out of this cliffhanger.’

Sorry to be so negative; I am really looking forward to the specials, and hopefully a new series, regardless.

[ChrisM]

Having Kochanski die is a shame. With the way series 8 ended with interdimensional travel, I’m sure another resolution could have been reached. I.e. she returned to ‘her Dave’ or simply found another universe she liked and decided to stay.

[Seb Patrick]

Okay, people who keep bringing up Rimmerworld : if you are that bothered about series-to-series logic and consistency, you are a fan of THE WRONG PROGRAMME. Is this not apparent from the fact that Red Dwarf is absolutely full of long-form continuity errors? If anything, it wouldn’t feel like Dwarf if everything DID match up perfectly!

All that matters is an explanation for why things are the way they are now. Personally, I think the explanation sounds brilliant – a throwaway gag, but one that works. Chalk it up.

[James]

Well said Seb! At least Doug is thinking about the possible questions that are bound to happen.

[Andrew]

> ?I can?t come up with a decent way out of this cliffhanger.?

Whereas Llister’s pregnancy at the end of series two was explained to everyone’s dramatic satisfaction.

> Worry: replacing weakly-written female character with another – the new hologram.

Who said ‘replacing’?

Who said ‘weakly-written’?

Who can say ‘jump to conclusions’?

[SkyAndSun]

Yep, you’re right Andrew, and I know I’m looking for the most negative explanation (partly so it can be refuted :) ).

Replacing: because we know Chloe’s not in the show and the fact that she’s dead implies she’s left the regular cast as well. And now we have Big Suze appearing. (Jumping to) Conclusion: replacement.

Weakly written: because Kochanski is the only female to have previously joined the regular cast, and in my opinion was weakly written. Going by past experience a new character will have similar problems.

But you’re right, I’m jumping to conclusions. It could also be absolutely fantastic – and I hope it will be.

[steven87gill]

I suspected kochanski would be killed off a few weeks ago when those two well made fan trailers for back to earth were put on you tube. one of them involed kochanski getting killed off, i only realised after that robert may have unintentionally gave away some of the plot when he understandably thought they were both genuine, they were brilliantly well put together after all.

[JamesTC]

Chloe is raising a family now isn’t she? With the manager of Oasis?

[Mr Flibble]

Kochanski dies and Lister wants to bury her on Earth. In Richmond.

[JamesTC]

And Lister is unhappy in that picture with the book because he is reading to her at her grave.

[Mr Flibble]

Chloe is raising a family now isn?t she? With the manager of Oasis?

IMDB doesn’t have her listed as having done anything for 5 years. I forget what she’s said at DJs, but if she wants to take it easy, why not.

[bountyhunter]

Only two new pics in SFX:

[Pete Part Three]

Lister looks like he’s dressed for a wedding rather than a funeral.

[hummingbird]

If this is a dead series VIII Rimmer, then I’m curious as to how Doug explains them having hard light.

[Paul Muller]

Looks like there’s some sort of underwater based activity going on as well.

[JamesTC]

That second picture gets me rather exited, it seems every picture is in a new situation, a simulant here, under water there, in coronation street here, in a comic shop there.

[Ian Symes]

And then they did a jigsaw.

Excellent pictures – thanks for posting them!

[Andrew]

> I?m curious as to how Doug explains them having hard light.

Irrespective of BTE, I’m not sure that would be a big issue. General RD lore is ‘find a thing one, have access to it forever’.

[ChrisM]

That makes sense. They can always reverse-engineer… With their psi-scanner they don’t even need to rip stuff apart to ascertain it’s components. Something Rimmer is probably relieved about.

[hummingbird]

>I?m not sure that would be a big issue

You’re right, of course.
I realise I keep posting about that. I don’t know why I’m hung up on that particular point.

[Tanya Jones]

Regarding Rimmerworld, FWIW, it was said that 500 years only passed for Rimmer, not the rest of the crew who were in Starbug, along with Holly. If Holly’s in Starbug generating Rimmer, surely the aging process (such as it might be for a hologram) only follows the timeline relevant to the generating entity? So, Rimmer might well ‘live’ through the 500 years, but as Holly isn’t doing so, that length of time isn’t relevant to the holographic image generated.

Someone, please, shoot me in the head…

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