Home › Forums › Ganymede & Titan Forum › The Blu-ray Awakens Search for: This topic has 142 replies, 30 voices, and was last updated 5 years, 8 months ago by Dave. Scroll to bottom Viewing 43 posts - 101 through 143 (of 143 total) 1 2 3 Author Posts February 26, 2018 at 11:09 pm #228542 bloodtellerParticipant so this has just popped up on amazon. blu-ray of 1-8 coming on October 1st i guess February 26, 2018 at 11:29 pm #228543 flanl3Participant Dropping/adding an actual frame and getting the small skip every second is what can be nauseating. Sort of like in Mario Kart 8 where a frame repeated itself every second and it was really distracing once you noticed it, except that was dropping 60 to 59 fps, not 25 to 24. February 26, 2018 at 11:46 pm #228544 Ben SaundersParticipant If it’s a duplicated frame it can be annoying but surely if it’s interpolated it would be fine Idk though I didn’t think NTSC viewers would be used to 24fps, I thought they watched stuff in 30/29.97 February 27, 2018 at 12:01 am #228548 Flap JackParticipant so this has just popped up on amazon. blu-ray of 1-8 coming on October 1st i guess Yeah, that Amazon listing has been there a while. Still weird to have a release date – even if it’s just a placeholder – before the thing has even been announced. Can’t say I’m leaping to pre-order a product that might not even exist! February 27, 2018 at 12:05 am #228549 MoonlightParticipant I didn’t think NTSC viewers would be used to 24fps, I thought they watched stuff in 30/29.97 Basically all scripted TV is in 24 fps now, including audience sitcoms. February 27, 2018 at 12:29 am #228552 Ben SaundersParticipant >Can’t say I’m leaping to pre-order a product that might not even exist! They don’t charge you until the thing actually ships so there would be no harm in pre-ordering it, I think >Basically all scripted TV is in 24 fps now, including audience sitcoms. Cool. February 27, 2018 at 2:16 am #228557 MoonlightParticipant I’d be lying if I said I didn’t permanently associate higher framerates with cheapness and sitcoms, since I was primarily exposed to it in my youth through low budget BBC shows and American sitcoms of the 1970s. To me, 24 is the “proper” framerate for scripted entertainment, and anything higher just feels wrong unless it’s on a traditional multi-camera sitcom. And since the current Red Dwarf isn’t shot quite the same as a traditional multi-camera sitcom, sometimes looking closer to a single-camera drama production, a higher framerate would feel just as wrong to me as watching the multi-camera BBC series in 24 fps does. I would aggressively contest the attitude I’ve heard from DwarfCasts that such a look somehow distances you from the comedy. I would personally find new Red Dwarf being shot just like the old series to make it look unacceptably cheap and old-fashioned, because really this is all informed by what you’re used to seeing in TV. I’ve always seen video taped BBC shows as having an incredibly cheap aesthetic to them, and so much of that comes from the video look and how overlit shows had to be for the cameras back then. So as much argument as I hear for the video look being “more real” and making you feel more like you’re there than the film look, I feel _exactly_ opposite. The video look just screams “YOU ARE WATCHING A CHEAP SITCOM” to me. Reality is subjective, life is a hologram, we’re all gonna die alone, etc., etc. February 27, 2018 at 2:22 am #228558 MoonlightParticipant That’s not to say I don’t think Red Dwarf V and VI look fucking incredible, but they’d look a lot more incredible visually if they were shot single camera on film. I’m not saying that would be better for the show, but it would certainly look more expensive. February 27, 2018 at 12:59 pm #228583 pfmParticipant All this confusion about framerates is the reason it’s fucked up so very often on DVD/Blu-ray releases. One of, if not the first BBC Blu-ray releases was of ‘Planet Earth’ and it played back at 24fps, thus resulting in that 4% slowdown. Budget is a major reason for this happening, as they will often produce one master for all markets. If they REALLY wanted to, they could make it all work. The same goes for 5.1 surround mixes as well, but that’s another story……. February 27, 2018 at 5:22 pm #228593 RamesesNiblickTheThirdParticipant Rather have audio commentaries for series 10-12 then this to be honest. February 27, 2018 at 8:23 pm #228598 MoonlightParticipant I just want Doug commentaries. February 27, 2018 at 8:33 pm #228600 Flap JackParticipant They don’t charge you until the thing actually ships so there would be no harm in pre-ordering it, I think It’s not so much that I’m worried about not being able to cancel, it just feels weird to pledge to buy something we know so little about. Plus, the pre-order price is unlikely to rise, so there doesn’t seem to be much advantage to being so prepared. February 27, 2018 at 8:54 pm #228601 JamesTCParticipant >Budget is a major reason for this happening, as they will often produce one master for all markets. If they REALLY wanted to, they could make it all work. The same goes for 5.1 surround mixes as well, but that’s another story……. It sounds like that won’t happen next time. Over on another forum when talking about the possible upcoming Classic Doctor Who Blu-Ray season sets a member of the Restoration Team has stated that there would be separate 50i and 60i releases, depending on territory. I think with Doug Naylor ensuring the quality of the release before signing off on them, we hopefully won’t get a screw up like that. February 27, 2018 at 9:39 pm #228602 bloodtellerParticipant why are they releasing it all on Blu-Ray anyway? what’s the market for that? dunno about anyone else but i certainly wouldn’t pay to see I-VIII in slightly higher quality, but maybe thats just me. February 27, 2018 at 10:15 pm #228606 Ben SaundersParticipant Once again I find myself in wholehearted agreement with Katydid, RE: frame rates. >I think with Doug Naylor ensuring the quality of the release before signing off on them, we hopefully won’t get a screw up like that. The man behind Red Dwarf: Remastered and Timewave?! February 28, 2018 at 7:00 am #228625 DaveParticipant why are they releasing it all on Blu-Ray anyway? what’s the market for that? Presumably it has been a very strong seller on DVD in all its various forms over the years, and this is the logical next variation. February 28, 2018 at 8:08 am #228629 Ben PaddonParticipant According to tweets from Doug yonks ago, there is apparently demand for it in Japan. February 28, 2018 at 11:32 am #228633 NoFroParticipant > That’s not to say I don’t think Red Dwarf V and VI look fucking incredible, but they’d look a lot more incredible visually if they were shot single camera on film. I’m not saying that would be better for the show, but it would certainly look more expensive. They would certainly look better. A lot of old shows have looked amazing on their Blu Ray releases because they were shot on film. I wish Dwarf could look as good, especially as most of the episodes look great from a sets/costumes/lighting standpoint, but the source just can’t provide that. I can’t believe that even a decade ago the BBC were shooting scripted, highly popular shows that weren’t future-proofed for HD (see: Doctor Who, The Mighty Boosh). February 28, 2018 at 1:26 pm #228639 Ben SaundersParticipant I would have sworn the Mighty Boosh was Channel 4. Lots of early digital films like the Star Wars prequels were shot at 1080p, and that’s it. They are forever locked at that resolution. And I read somewhere (maybe on here lmao) that I think 28 Days Later was genuinely shot at 480p, and that’s as high as it will ever be. Now 1080p I can understand given that they basically invented digital cameras -for- Attack of the Clones, but 480p?! What were they thinking. Even The Phantom Menace, which was shot on film for the most part except for one scene, probably will remain at 1080p because of that one scene. Lucas elected to use the scene where Qui Gon tests Anakin’s blood as a testing ground for his new digital camera, to see if anybody would notice that it switched from film to digital, and I don’t think many people did, and so the digital age began. Then you have Tommy Wiseau who shot The Room -simultaneously- on digital AND film because he didn’t understand the difference, and had to have a custom camera enclosure made to hold both cameras side by side iirc. I don’t know if the final movie is presented fully one or the other or a mix, though. February 28, 2018 at 2:06 pm #228644 DaveParticipant The low-res filming of 28 Days Later was a deliberate stylistic choice that I thought worked quite well. February 28, 2018 at 2:18 pm #228645 Ben SaundersParticipant It’s going to be a blast revisiting that film on the 8k televisions of the not too distant future. Mind you if Red Dwarf is anything to go by we’ll all have gone back to CRTs by that point, anyway. February 28, 2018 at 4:10 pm #228651 MANI506Participant I wonder if the proposed blu-ray would feature re-shot vis-fx for VII which Doug has said would be fun to do. March 1, 2018 at 12:33 am #228681 Mr-StabbyParticipant >And I read somewhere (maybe on here lmao) that I think 28 Days Later was genuinely shot at 480p, and that’s as high as it will ever be. Now 1080p I can understand given that they basically invented digital cameras -for- Attack of the Clones, but 480p?! What were they thinking. Watch the film. They film on a completely empty Westminster Bridge and City of London. They had literally minutes between the sun coming up and the city getting swamped. Rather than waste time setting up film cameras, they shot with a bank of Canon XL1 MiniDV video cameras, all filming at once, because they took literally moments to setup. The footage speaks for itself. No CGI, no fancy production tricks. REAL London looks deserted. I think that was worth using the slightly cheaper cameras. It looks amazing. And stylistically i think it works too. March 1, 2018 at 12:45 am #228682 Ben SaundersParticipant So it’s The Dalek Invasion of Earth but with zombies? March 1, 2018 at 11:30 am #228692 Quinn: Clochebusters World ChampionParticipant Doug has just tweeted this In the Blu-Ray suite working on Red Dwarf III. It’s looking nice. The Up-Rez is nice, the noise reduction is nice, the grade is nice. It just looks nice period. #RedDwarf30#October. — Doug Naylor (@DougRDNaylor) March 1, 2018 “In the Blu-Ray suite working on Red Dwarf III. It’s looking nice. The Up-Rez is nice, the noise reduction is nice, the grade is nice. It just looks nice period. #RedDwarf30#October” So looks like we’ll get getting something in October!! March 1, 2018 at 11:50 am #228693 siParticipant October, eh? Hmm. If only there was some kind of Red Dwarf fan event around then.. March 1, 2018 at 11:59 am #228694 DaveParticipant Great to hear. Looking forward to seeing how it looks. March 1, 2018 at 1:03 pm #228705 Dax101Participant Will be interesting to see how this turns out. March 1, 2018 at 1:20 pm #228706 NoFroParticipant III probably has the most room for improvement. Well, maybe there’s no room for improvement but it certainly looks the worst. March 1, 2018 at 1:26 pm #228709 Dax101Participant I wonder will dave be showing the Blu-ray quality shows after its released. If you are gonna put money into it you may aswell make the most of it. March 1, 2018 at 1:54 pm #228711 Ben SaundersParticipant Just went on Google images for some screencaps of Marooned and oh boy does that cockpit scene look horrible. March 1, 2018 at 2:09 pm #228712 Pete Part ThreeParticipant They’re taking the opportunity to remove Hattie altogether and replace her with newly filmed footage of Norm. This is perhaps more troublesome for Parallel Universe, though. March 1, 2018 at 2:46 pm #228713 bloodtellerParticipant >Just went on Google images for some screencaps of Marooned and oh boy does that cockpit scene look horrible. i wonder if they’ll change that in some way for the blu-ray? it looks incredibly dodgy in SD so it’ll no doubt look even dodgier in HD. if i recall correctly Remastered tried fixing the cockpit scene but they somehow made it look even worse March 1, 2018 at 2:50 pm #228714 DaveParticipant I would hope that they would ‘fix’ as little as possible. The effects techniques, whether good or bad, are part of what the show is. March 1, 2018 at 6:02 pm #228716 Dax101Participant I wouldn’t mind a hint of remastering just to smooth over some of the effects rather than replace them. March 1, 2018 at 6:33 pm #228717 DaveParticipant Slippery slope, though. March 1, 2018 at 8:41 pm #228725 International DebrisParticipant I wouldn’t mind an actual remaster, in terms of polishing up the final product. What we had in 1997 was a remix, really, going back to the source and changing individual ingredients. March 2, 2018 at 9:50 pm #228783 SacrosantParticipant Have a gawp at this you filthy luddites No matter the source tape, no matter the grade, no matter the bells and whistles that can be attached to the footage, the blu-rays will look like fucking shite but with less of a tan hue. Bollocks to it. March 7, 2018 at 2:43 pm #229076 DaveParticipant Also posted in the news thread, this seems relevant: March 7, 2018 at 10:28 pm #229106 cwickhamParticipant The fact that they’re bothering to put new extras on these is quite encouraging. The Tom Baker Years and the Genesis of the Daleks omnibus edit will be nice to have for archival purposes – shades of The Bodysnatcher Collection including all the stuff they missed off the series releases. August 1, 2018 at 10:48 pm #235418 RaradraParticipant Doug Naylor just tweeted: August 1, 2018 at 10:52 pm #235419 RaradraParticipant Sorry about that, I can’t edit that post for some reason. He tweeted: “Big announcement tomorrow about Red Dwarf I-VIII and Blu-ray and launch date and October 1st” Big announcement tomorrow about Red Dwarf I-VIII and Blu-ray and launch date and October 1st #dontwanttogivetoomuchaway#secretsaresafewithme#tellnoone — Doug Naylor (@DougRDNaylor) August 1, 2018 August 1, 2018 at 10:57 pm #235420 DaveParticipant See the other BR thread… Author Posts Viewing 43 posts - 101 through 143 (of 143 total) 1 2 3 Scroll to top • Scroll to Recent Forum Posts You must be logged in to reply to this topic. Log In Username: Password: Keep me signed in Log In