The Bodystretcher Collection

[Dave]

A DVD collection probably never coming to a store near you:

Me2 X-tended, Parallel Universe X-tended, Polymorph X-tended, Dimension Jump X-tended, Holoship X-tended, Emohawk: Polymorph II X-tended, Stoke Me A Clipper Re-Mastered, Ouroborous Re-Mastered, Duct Soup Re-Mastered, Blue Re-Mastered, Beyond A Joke Re-Mastered, Epideme Re-Mastered, Nanarchy Re-Mastered, Pete X-tended

Commentaries:
Rob & Doug on Series I-VI eps, Doug solo on VII & VIII eps, Mac Macdonald on Me2, Hattie Hayridge on Parallel Universe, Craig Charles on Holoship, Ainsley Harriot on Emohawk

Red Dwarf USA #1
Red Dwarf USA #2
Deleted scene: Clip from Kryten with “Mc” reinstated
Danny John Jules Tongue Tied Music Video
The Making of the Tongue Tied Music Video
Universe Challenge
Tomorrow’s World with Norman Lovett
Biteback
Open Air with Paul Jackson, Chris Barrie & Craig Charles
Take Two with Rob and Doug
Daytime Live with Craig Charles
Parallel 9 with Craig Charles & Robert Llewellyn
Parallel 9 with Danny John-Jules
Points of View (Oct 1993, Feb 1998, ? 2007)
Pebble Mill with Craig Charles
Live & Kicking with Chris Barrie
Computers Don’t Bite
The Vanessa Show with Robert Llewellyn & Norman Lovett
Look North with Twonks
Culture Fix – Special Effects
Whatever You Want
The Last Laugh with Danny John-Jules
Backstage with Danny John Jules & Norman Lovett
Red Dwarf Telly Addicts Questions
Red Dwarf Mastermind Questions
Comic Relief Bohemian Rhapsody
Any Dimension Jump footage
“Word” Featurette
Interviews with anyone missed out previously
More Fan Films?
Red Dwarf Night intros
Continuity Announcements
Sound Effects
Red Dwarf Radio Show with illustrations by Neil Maguire
Mobisodes aplenty
Extracts from Random Abstract Memory read by Hattie Hayridge
Extracts from The Log read by Craig Charles
Extracts from The Man In The Rubber Mask read by Robert Llewellyn?
Extracts from Last Human read by Craig Charles
Extracts from Backwards read by Rob Grant
Any other Kryten introductions from Smeg-Ups, Smeg-Outs
Any other Deleted Scenes
Any other Smeg-Ups (maybe from Smeg-Ups, Smeg-Outs, X-Tended, Beat The Geek, Re-Mastered Holly shoot?)
Any other Trailers (newly found Terrorform, Re-Mastered The End one, Craig Charles playing Jingle Bells for UKTV)
Any other Dave Hollins Radio Sketches
Any other Isolated Music Cues
Any other Photos for a Photo Gallery
Any unused Six Of The Best comments

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PLUS Hidden Easter Egg(s)
And Collector’s Booklet

Any other extras we will never see?

Topic

[JamesTC]

Despite being awful I would still like a Just the USA Shows DVD. It should have a commentary with Doug just saying “shit” all the way through.

[p2p_productions]

“Sex, Drugs and Smeg.” – a shocking new documentary on the making of the Red Dwarf DVD extras.

[JamesTC]

Just the Extras – For the people who only got the ‘Just the Shows’ sets.

[pfm]

Just The Norm.

[NitroChrisUK]

have to admit though red dwarf has done what i think is the best extras on a dvd for a british tv series that i can think of ..even the doctor who boxsets just have a few deleted scenes and some confidential .. whereas dwarf had specially made documentaries and all that … brilliant .. as for soemhting new how about ..red dwarf : the movie …script..read by chris barrie

[JamesTC]

>doctor who boxsets just have a few deleted scenes and some confidential

That is the new series were they are just lazy with the DVDs and don’t give a shit.
The classic series on the other hand gives a mammoth amount of extras, infact the best DVD on my collection is ‘The Trial of a Time Lord’.

[p2p_productions]

I wonder if some of the ‘new’ material in the Dave specials will be from the unfilmed Dwarf Movie script.

[Dave]

>Just The Norm

I love you, a bit

[JamesTC]

>Just The Norm
Will it include the re-mastered bits as bonus features, what about the clips from ‘Beat the Geek’ too!?

[hummingbird]

Norman Lovett’s autobiography, read by himself (3 discs)
outtakes from Norman Lovett’s autobiography (1 disc)
the making of Norman Lovett’s autobiography (1 disc)

and don’t forget
“They’re all bastards and I hate them – the memoirs of Norman Lovett, Volume I” by Norman Lovett
“I don’t like to complain, but …. – the memoirs of Norman Lovett, Volume II” by Norman Lovett
“The world owes me a living – the memoirs of Norman Lovett, Volume III” by Norman Lovett
(6 disc special extended editions)

[JamesTC]

Don’t forget the bonus hour long feature on the ball fiasco.

[Jonathan Capps]

Blimey, that’s a fantastic list, Dave.

[James]

Doug’s own cine films he took during shooting of the Series.

[Pete Part Three]

Documentary on Chlo? Annett’s FHM photoshoot/ foaming twat.

[locusceruleus]

>I wonder if some of the ?new? material in the Dave specials will be from the unfilmed Dwarf Movie script.

I doubt it – especially since the script was for a big-budget movie and the specials are apparently being made on a shoestring. Plus didn’t Craig say recently that the movie was still a vague possibility?

[hummingbird]

>Plus didn?t Craig say recently that the movie was still a vague possibility?

Is this ‘recently’ as in weeks/months ago, or recently as in 2004?

[Jonathan Capps]

> Is this ?recently? as in weeks/months ago, or recently as in 2004?

He mentioned this in his recent Digital Spy interview.

[hummingbird]

I saw that, but I didn’t think anything of it.

[Carlito]

He simply used the expression “never say never” which then led Digital Spy to write a whole article with the headline “Craig Charles still wants Red Dwarf movie” or summat like that. They literally took a nothing remark and twisted it. Media for you, eh?

[Carlito]

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/cult/a139670/charles-still-hopes-for-red-dwarf-movie.html

[locusceruleus]

Well, I said ‘vague possibility’, he said ‘Never say never’. I don’t think I missed the mark too much, considering I was going from the memory of reading the article once two weeks ago.

[Carlito]

I know, I wasn’t having a pop at you, just at Digital Spy.

[Ben Paddon]

I would personally relish the opportunity to record a Fan Commentary for Red Dwarf USA #1.

[Jonathan Capps]

> I would personally relish the opportunity to record a Fan Commentary for Red Dwarf USA #1.

Do this and send it to us. If you need a copy of the episode, email me and I’ll somehow assist you without breaking any copyright laws at all, somehow.

I MEAN IT.

[Ben Paddon]

I don’t seem to have your email address. Because I’m fat and ugly and I have a pig face.

I’d love to get a bunch of us on Skype to record a commentary together. I have the software and the means. All it’d take, really, is all of us pressing “Play” at the same time.

[Jonathan Capps]

I think doing something like this would be great, but I’d have to make sure my house was ENTIRELY empty.

[Ian Symes]

Because he would have to do it naked.

[Phil]

I have never seen the entirety of RDUSA #1 (that’s the one with the clips on Dwarfin’ USA, right?) but that won’t stop me from being a completely worthless addition to the commentary.

[hummingbird]

>I have never seen the entirety of RDUSA #1

I haven’t either.
But I’d like to see it. Y’know, just out of interest.

[Carlito]

Save yourself the frustration and don’t.

Bobby is the only good thing in it, he has a few good original lines, but other than that…

[Pete Part Three]

It’s better than VIII…

[NitroChrisUK]

only funny part in the us 1 is
“so what have you been doing for 3 million years ?”

kryten “well iv been readin that exit sign there “

was only part i found slightly amusing .. rest is utter shite

[si]

Oh no, it’s not that bad. The ‘My baseball cards must be worth a FORTUNE!’ line always makes me smile. The holograms are crap though, that whole “Ghandi in Space” thing…Awful.

[Carlito]

Yeah I was thinking of the exit sign scene when I said Bobby had a couple good lines.

And it’s nowhere near better than VIII. And you know it.

[genericnerdyusername]

My brother downloaded it ages ago, so I would be able to get you a copy if not for the fact that it’s so shit I deleted it immediately after watching it.

[Pete Part Three]

>And it?s nowhere near better than VIII. And you know it.

Do I? Hang on, wait a minute.

No, I really don’t.

If you want a wacky version of Red Dwarf, you might as well go for an episode that uses the basis of a decent script and story.

[JamesTC]

Series VIII is miles better than the USA pilot, even the worst episode of Red Dwarf is alot better than the USA pilot, I’m looking at you Pete Part 2.

[Pete Part Three]

Red Dwarf USA has a beginning, middle and a (rushed) end. Pete Part 2 is a sketch show with some shouting and humour that a 14 year old would label as infantile.

Don’t get me wrong, Red Dwarf USA is shit but its shitness is excusable given that its an attempt by a bunch of newcomers (sans Robert) to reinvent the show for a US audience. Pete Part 2 does not have a similar get-out-clause. It’s just as hurried, has equally bad characterisation and is far messier as a narrative.

And the Fire Exit joke is better than any line in Pete Part 2.

[JamesTC]

Don?t get me wrong, Red Dwarf USA is shit but its shitness is excusable given that its an attempt by a bunch of newcomers (sans Robert) to reinvent the show for a US audience. Pete Part 2 does not have a similar get-out-clause. It?s just as hurried, has equally bad characterisation and is far messier as a narrative.

It has the get out clause that it was originally a one part episode and a second episode had to be rushed, instead of a rushed episode it had a padded two parter.

And the Fire Exit joke is better than any line in Pete Part 2.

I agree with that but it only had that and another joke about base ball cards which I found funny.

[Ian Symes]

That’s two more jokes than Pete Part Two has going for it.

[Pete Part Three]

Kryten: (To Lister) He evolved from cats, sir, just as your distant ancestors once swung from trees.

Rimmer: Ancestors? His grandparents swung from trees.
__

Lister: Chris, you’re alive! I just got through sweeping you up!
__

Cat: Is that what I think it is?

Rimmer: What do you think it is?

Cat: A big whirly thing in the corner of the room.

>It has the get out clause that it was originally a one part episode and a second episode had to be rushed, instead of a rushed episode it had a padded two parter.

Bearing in mind that Pete Part 2 was your example. Switch it for Only the Good if you must.

[JamesTC]

I mentioned Pete Part 2 because I consider it the worst episode or Red Dwarf, still find it much funnier than the USA pilot.

[NitroChrisUK]

pete part 2 was awefull for dwarf standards and the usa pilot was shite as peopel have said apart from the fire exit joke and the line about the baseball cards being worth a furtune .. the actors playing the charactors are shit (especially there version of rimmer ) not counting robert ovc pete part 2 and only the good feel like rushed ” weve run out of budget creating a dancing robot and a dinosour ” when i think the budget should have been saved for an end of series spectacular .. but owell cant be changed now

[Jonathan Capps]

Yeah, no, the mask looks pony.

[Pete Part Three]

>I mentioned Pete Part 2 because I consider it the worst episode or Red Dwarf, still find it much funnier than the USA pilot.

Each to their own. I don’t think I’ve watched Red Dwarf VIII since the DVD came out (and only a few times on video before that), whereas Red Dwarf USA doesn’t annoy me nearly as much and is, at least a curiosity. A pile of shite, it may be…but in the spectrum of shite, it’s not without merit.

Unfortunately, its reputation (and the fact that it’s a remake) precedes it. That’s what makes Dwarfin’ USA such a fascinating documentary. Doug says its not that bad, Danny trashes it (perhaps more to do with sour grapes, than an unbiased viewpoint).

Ignoring the actual finished article; if you compare the script of USA to, lets say, Pete Part 2, I’d say the former is far superior. It’s horribly paced and far too busy (the presence of Kryten is at the expense of Rimmer) but there is a plot there.

Unfortunately, we’ve never seen Linwood Boomer’s original script (according to Doug the finished version is a curious hybrid of that and Rob and Doug’s rewrite…which is at odds with Robert’s version of events in TMITRM). It would be interesting to see that and compare.

The first episode of the US version of The Office is a virtual remake of Episode 1 of The Office UK. It’s bloody awful. However, when they left the constraints of remaking a show and did their own thing, the show became great. Maybe the same thing could have happened with Red Dwarf USA?

The failure of it is more to do with the direction and the performances. An extra 5 pages and a dialogue polish, and it could have been pretty good. Pete Part 2, meanwhile, is doomed from the outset. It’s a lousy script and a fucking awful story.

[Jonathan Capps]

> Unfortunately, we?ve never seen Linwood Boomer?s original script (according to Doug the finished version is a curious hybrid of that and Rob and Doug?s rewrite?which is at odds with Robert?s version of events in TMITRM). It would be interesting to see that and compare.

I believe Ian bought this in a DJ auction a couple of years ago.

[Pete Part Three]

Really? Wasn’t aware that it had ever seen the light of day.

How does it differ, Ian?

[hummingbird]

*sigh* wish there was some way that I could watch US RD

[Jonathan Capps]

> Really? Wasn?t aware that it had ever seen the light of day.

Don’t take my word as gospel, but I do believe it’s Boomer’s first draft. It certainly has ‘First Draft’ on the front, anyway.

[Danny Stephenson]

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=KwymOX6ey_g – Part 1

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=WnFwvUDeJiA – Part 2

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=lEgIDKf8iqQ – Part 3

Keep it under your hat…

[Author]

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