Things we WOULD like to see in the New Dwarf Specials.

[Paul Muller]

Right.

Now I don’t want to get involved in any forum bitchfests that may or may not be occuring elsewhere on this site, so let’s put all that to one side.

What sort of things WOULD you like to see included in the new specials? ie. plotlines, writing styles, characters, special fx etc.

What would be in your ideal episodes?

It’s a purely hypothetical question, I’m not suggesting that this is any sort of definitive clarion call from the fan community to Doug Naylor – it’s just a bit of fun.

Ok so….

GO.

Topic

[Seb Patrick]

An episode where Iain Lee eats a variety of animal faeces.

[Dave]

An episode where Iain Lee eats a variety of animal faeces with a difference.

[Zombie Jim Undead]

Monkey tennis?

[Danny Stephenson]

An episode where Iain Lee eats a variety of animal faeces.

I would also like to see Iain Lee eat shit as opposed to talking it.

[locusceruleus]

>An episode where Iain Lee eats a variety of animal faeces with a difference.

Can the difference be that the faeces is covered in hydrochloric acid?

[hummingbird]

>I would like these new episodes to follow on from the end of series VI *insert alternate timeline bollocks* and totally disregard the bowel churning car crash that was series VII,

My feelings exactly. And there’s always that line in Tikka about their reality being unstable, which would completely lend itself to a brand new timeline scenario.
Advantages:
1. original Rimmer
2. Starbug
3. no Kochanski

>I don?t think Red Dwarf would lend itself to reinvention like Doctor Who has.

I disagree. I think it would work very well. The only obstacle is an ageing cast (or the 3/4 of the cast that aren’t wearing a rubber head), which Who can conveniently sidestep. Not that I have a problem with the guys looking older, but I imagine a lot of people would. Particularly a new audience in our endearingly youth-obsessed society.
/rant
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[John Hoare]

I must admit, I don’t really get the “pretend VII and VIII never happened” thing. They *did* happen – there are 16 episodes right there – and just wiping them out of continuity (in as much as that word means anything at all in Dwarf) won’t stop them existing. And besides, it would intensely annoy the people who *do* like those two series, and I see little point in doing that.

Regarding the three things above – I’m not entirely sure it matters whether Rimmer is original Rimmer or not. Rimmer in VIII *is* different to old Rimmer, but that’s due to what I see as dodgy writing – he’d have been written pretty much the same if he was the old Rimmer. (There’s the odd line that references the changes between old Rimmer and new Rimmer – but not anything that fundamentally changes the character.) Restoring Starbug and getting rid of Kochanski *are* bonuses, but there are other ways of doing that without wiping out VII and VIII.

Having said all of that – I can’t imagine the specials resolving the VIII cliffhanger in any case. These eps are supposed to be bringing a whole new audience to Dwarf – resolving a cliffhanger from 10 years ago isn’t going to figure into that. I want it explained at some point… but I’m not sure now is the right time to do it.

[Jonsmad]

I think John is right, It would be good for these specials to play to anyone as opposed to just an audience that has looked in detail at the previous archs of story or cliffhangers. Backwards, Tikka to Ride, and Back in the red all dug themselves out of continuity holes, some more quickly or sucessfully than others, based on the comments people say about each. I’m not too bothered about this cliff hanger being resolved. There is the least to resolve this time around possibly with just who is alive, on what ship to set up being the important thing, which the episode would do pretty much anyway by it exsisting. It’s like we already have a part resolution to that cliffhanger now we know there is new dwarf coming. We know the “smeg it is” was right and we think we know there is a rimmer, lister, Kryten and Cat possibly more alive some where and somewhen in some reality.

With a 9 or 10 year time gap in real time, why not pull a time war :-)
They could have the Stasis Skirmish.

They could explain continuity on the website in an article or comic, for fans
that had a deep desire for an official explanation of such things.

[Pete Part Three]

Is it worth wondering what the ship will look like? Dave do, after all, show the original non-remastered episodes.

[ChrisM]

I wondered about that too. The longer version is Doug Naylor’s preferred version I think, so I think it will be that. While I am somewhat undecided his reasoning on the Bodysnatcher Collection disk set did make a lot of sense, i.e. the vessels would be added to bit by bit over the years hence the long appearance. (I think I’d have preferred something a bit shorter mind, like one of the intermediate length sketches we see on the Bodysnatcher extras.)

[Zombie Jim Undead]

Not sure if this is official…can anyone confirm that this is the new design?

[Jonathan Capps]

I think (and hope) we’ll get the re-mastered model (refurnished a bit as it’s probably looking a bit aged by now) properly motion captured. That would look lovely.

[Paul Muller]

I don’t want anyone to panic, but my sources have just handed me this…

[TheLeen]

Haaaahahahahaha

[Zombie Jim Undead]

Hahaha. Brilliant.

[Pete Part Three]

Excellent.

[ChrisM]

Very good.

Interesting Steam Punk take from Zombie too. I wondered why it had the police light… then I remembered the observation dome.

[Phil]

>then I remembered the observation dome.

Can you help me remember why it’s shitting grey rope?

[hummingbird]

>then I remembered the observation dome

they should totally bring back the observation dome

[pfm]

Even though we know absolute zero about the new project’s budget, I’m guessing they won’t want to spend money on a model shoot. It’s CG all the way. I’d be in favour of models, of course. I recently watched Sunshine (on Blu-ray, like a motherfucker) for the first time and the extensive model work used is utterly seamless and excellent. It reminded me of 2001 and Alien and it’s proof that those days of quality COULD be brought back if the ADD generation could bear to entertain such a notion. It looks utterly amazing throughout (everything else about it is just OK)

[Dave]

>Can you help me remember why it?s shitting grey rope?

It’s been fired from the ship by a man armed with a bow wearing a women’s dressing gown and with dental floss stuck among his teeth with wood glue.

It’s the remake the fans have been clamouring for.

[Zombie Jim Undead]

Duh. The grey rope is blasts from the laser cannons!

Also, that’s not a police light or an observation dome. It’s both.

[Phil]

I feel like such a fool.

[peas_and_corn]

You bastards. You could have put spoiler warnings or something.

[peas_and_corn]

Umm… I meant to post here. Yeah, that’s it.

[genericnerdyusername]

I would like to see a whole episode where none of the crew get beaten up. It was ridiculous the amount of poundings they got in Series VIII. That bit in Krytie TV where Rimmer is assaulted… it ruined the whole episode for me.
I’d also like to see a foaming twat.

[ChrisM]

I quite liked the scene in series 8 (Pete I believe) where they’re out of synch due to being zapped with the time-wand, and their fighting suddenly catches up with them.

I found the running gag of Rimmer and Lister appearing before Hollister for a reprimand rather tedious (although it was funny to start with) but that particular bit was executed very well I thought. Great slapstick.

[ChrisM]

*Looks at thread title* Not that I want to see that again in the new episodes.

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