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  • #234194
    Jawscvmcdia
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    If Red Dwarf was ever to be rebooted with new cast members, would you watch it? If so, who would you like to play the characters?

    #234195
    Bargain Bin Holly
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    That’s heresy, Jawscvmcdia

    Punish yourself accordingly

    #234208
    Taiwan Tony
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    If it was funny.
    I’d like it to be little known alternative comedians. Not the round faced buoyant common denominator pushers of the mainstream circuit.
    I’d like to play Kryten. I was born in Northampton, too, so it’s a shoe in.

    #234209
    Dax101
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    Feel like the US version is the closest we have to a reboot currently

    #234210
    Ben Saunders
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    I bet if they remade Red Dwarf today the BBCuck would make two of the leads minorities and cast a fucking woman as the computer

    #234217
    bloodteller
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    the US pilot was quite good. but i definitely wouldn’t want to see a Red Dwarf remake now

    #234222
    bloodteller
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    they’d probably get some bellend like James Corden in as Lister, instantly ruining it

    in terms of recasting I think Peter Lorre would be good as Rimmer, but he died 55 years ago so that’s not really an option

    #234223
    Dave
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    Of course I would watch it. That doesn’t mean it’s a good idea though.

    #234224
    Ben Saunders
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    >James Corden in as Lister
    Jesus Christ.

    Or Jack Whitehall as Rimmer.
    Jesus Christ.

    #234226

    But who’d play Jesus Christ?

    #234229
    bloodteller
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    ricky gervais

    #234231
    GlenTokyo
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    I’m the opposite of Taiwan Tony, I’d only watch it if it wasn’t funny (on purpose obviously).

    Same story, but done as a more serious tone, not bleak and depressing but not a comedy.

    Spend more time on board before the accident getting to know peeps and then really dig in the accident.

    #234233
    bloodteller
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    i don’t think i could enjoy Red Dwarf if it wasn’t a comedy tbh.

    well i suppose maybe if it was like Blake’s 7 i could enjoy it. but then Blake’s 7 is exceptional

    #234236
    GlenTokyo
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    I just don’t think modern funny people are as subtle/ have the layers and it’d be shit. Like Dave’s other scripted sitcom thing Zzaped or whatever it was.

    #234238
    bloodteller
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    i saw Zapped. i liked the old drunken wizard character, whoever played him was alright. everyone else was shit though

    equally though i think a Red Dwarf remake that took itself seriously wouldn’t work at all, that’d be shit too.

    #234253
    flanl3
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    Have the accident end the first series. Have Lister go into stasis as punishment and make that seem like the final moment, then suddenly watch fireballs and explosive winds take down the corridors and everybody’s gone, final shot of Lister’s face behind all this madness.

    #234259
    GlenTokyo
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    Yeah flanl, make him going into stasis seem like the big moment, the oh shit bit, drop a few moments in through the episode of Rimmer bemoaning Lister not being around and then non event mass with a quantum probability of zero, freeze, and boom, fireballs, bulkheads sealing too slowly and being blown apart, an external shot of the ship with atmosphere venting, end credits.

    I’d watch that shit.

    #234295
    Jo
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    Nah.

    #234299
    bloodteller
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    >final shot of Lister’s face behind all this madness

    somehow i misread this as “Lister’s face grins, he is behind all this madness” and was incredibly disturbed

    #234305
    Pete Part Three
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    So, a whole series of completely non-typical Red Dwarf episodes and then a cliffhanger, promising a completely different type of show for a next series that has no guarantee of being commissioned?

    Isn’t this Red Dwarf VIII?

    #234310
    GlenTokyo
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    No, like Game of Thrones, where shit usually goes down in episode 8 and then you have 2 more episodes to deal with it.

    #234312
    bloodteller
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    >Same story, but done as a more serious tone, not bleak and depressing but not a comedy.

    hang on, doesn’t most of Red Dwarf hinge on it being a comedy? a lot of the character interactions, particularly Lister and Rimmer, are based around them annoying the living shit out of each other. and the Cat spends a lot of time bouncing around like a feline dervish. i dunno how you could do a lot of that without making it funny- even in the novels, which take themselves rather more seriously, there are still some incredibly funny bits.

    Rimmer and Lister doing their black card/white card routine and trying to not make it funny would just be incredibly strange, surely?

    #234313
    bloodteller
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    plus a serious Red Dwarf would be no fun at all- even in stuff like Back To Reality, which is a pretty dark narrative there are great jokes and laughs throughout that definitely make it all the more enjoyable

    #234314
    GlenTokyo
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    Just not the obvious “jokes”, set up, punchline stuff, you can still have a funny moments in a program and it be more serious.

    Have the character humour but have more exploration into the more serious consequences and shiz that are currently left alone for the sake of woofers.

    #234315
    tombow
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    what if it was like some “passing the torch” Force Awakens thing where they find one of Lister’s sons who is in our dimension now, and he’s a funny slob with a fussy hologram and some kind of funny animal person, (all age 25 ish), and they hand over to them for a new “next generation” show.

    #234316
    GlenTokyo
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    Yeah I reckon they could do that, sort of backdoor pilot it. Whether people would be receptive I don’t know.

    Maybe if they did it like Voyager, with an overlap where there are two series running alongside each other it’d be easier to get people on board.

    #234319
    bloodteller
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    i dunno, i don’t feel like you could really do Red Dwarf without Craig, Chris, Danny and Robert. they sort of are Red Dwarf i think. it’s one of those things i just don’t think you could hand over to other actors without it going awfully wrong, like Peter Sellers as Clouseau or Joel and Mike from MST3K as the Test Subjects.

    i definitely wouldn’t watch Red Dwarf: The Next Generation, it just wouldn’t be Red Dwarf anymore.

    #234320
    bloodteller
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    it’d probably end up like that ghastly Ghostbusters remake

    #234324
    GlenTokyo
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    It’s been a while since I’ve seen the new Ghostbusters but I remember thinking ‘that would have been really good without Melissa McCarthy’ because she is a “funny actor” to almost pantomime levels of overacting things whereas Kristen Wiig for example is just a good actor really (although she started in comedy). I feel like that would happen to Red Dwarf if they added a new cast member now, they’d go for a Dave mandated “funny actor” and it’d get right on everyone’s tits, like Poochy from the Simpsons.

    #234325
    Dave
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    So the suggestions so far are changing the cast, changing the story, changing the format, taking out the jokes and making it a more serious sci-fi show? That all sounds excellent. I hope they get rid of the big spaceship too.

    #234326
    GlenTokyo
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    Reboots usually don’t share the same cast to be fair.

    Jack Lord would’ve looked really rough in the Hawaii Five-0 reboot, he’d been dead for 12 years when that started.

    #234327
    bloodteller
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    I think they should have this reboot set on Earth, and be about a guy trying to get home for Thanksgiving rather than get back to his home planet. The cast will be Steve Martin and John Candy, and it’ll be written by John Hughes.

    Wait a minute, that’s just Planes, Trains And Automobiles…

    #234332
    Moonlight
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    Reboots usually don’t share the same cast to be fair.

    You could just be like the rest of the internet and use the word “reboot” to describe a revival of a show that’s directly continuing the original run with the same cast. I’m pretty sure most people think _any_ show returning is a “reboot” even when it’s fucking not.

    #234334
    Dave
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    The Netflix reboot of Reboot uses quite a few of the original Reboot cast in its reboot of Reboot, and that’s the rebootiest reboot I can think of.

    #234336
    Flap Jack
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    it’d probably end up like that ghastly Ghostbusters remake

    You mean it’d be a hugely enjoyable new take on the core concept of Red Dwarf, released 27 years after the most recent regular series, when all hope of reuniting the original cast for a non-reboot continuation has been lost anyway?

    OK, well I was sceptical about the idea of a Red Dwarf reboot in general, but you’ve convinced me!

    #234339
    tombow
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    The Ghostbusters cartoon had a “next gen” show in 1997, where they had a new young cast but kept the old ones around as mentors. That could be a model for a new Dwarf

    #234342
    bloodteller
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    >You mean it’d be a hugely enjoyable new take on the core concept of Red Dwarf, released 27 years after the most recent regular series, when all hope of reuniting the original cast for a non-reboot continuation has been lost anyway?

    No

    #234343
    Dave
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    The Ghostbusters cartoon had a “next gen” show in 1997, where they had a new young cast but kept the old ones around as mentors. That could be a model for a new Dwarf

    I don’t think they should make Red Dwarf about ghostbusters

    #234344
    Dave
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    The Ghostbusters cartoon had a “next gen” show in 1997, where they had a new young cast but kept the old ones around as mentors. That could be a model for a new Dwarf

    Seriously though, “last human being alive trains his successor”… I feel like there’s a logic gap there, I just can’t put my finger on it.

    #234345
    Bargain Bin Holly
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    You mean it’d be a hugely enjoyable new take on the core concept of Red Dwarf, released 27 years after the most recent regular series, when all hope of reuniting the original cast for a non-reboot continuation has been lost anyway?

    OK, well I was sceptical about the idea of a Red Dwarf reboot in general, but you’ve convinced me!

    Are you under the influence

    #234346
    Ben Saunders
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    >Hugely enjoyable

    #234348
    tombow
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    Well, we know Lister is fated in at least some time-lines to have sons who return to his Red Dwarf, so it’s not a complete departure. I’ve always wanted to see what is going on in RD during that future, and which characters are around.

    #234349
    bloodteller
    Participant

    maybe they were referring to the Ghostbusters remake in 2008’s “Be Kind, Rewind” where Jack Black’s character has to swede the entirety of the film on no budget at all. because that was hugely enjoyable

    #234350
    Dave
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    That was basically what Back To Earth was, though.

    #234354
    GlenTokyo
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    I’d say Ghostbusters was about as enjoyable as any other summer blockbuster comedy film. It’s not as good as Ghostbusters obviously but it was fine. 6.5/10.

    Not going to stand outside Sony HQ screaming for a sequel but I’m not going to set fire to a paper bag full of shit on their doorstep either.

    #234355
    Lily
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    I kinda feel that the whole “last human” thing died a long time ago. Every series they’re meeting more and more people. Even when those people get killed off in various ways it still demonstrates that Lister is far from the last human alive.

    #234357
    Dave
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    He is, though.

    #234358
    bloodteller
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    Lister being the last human only felt like it had any gravity and meaning in Series I-II. You had scenes like him being alone in the disco, or lines like “I knew he was dead…I mean, they’re all dead, aren’t they?” which really made it feel like it really was just him and Rimmer- everyone they knew has been dead for millenia, all that’s left are these two guys in the infinite blackness of space.

    from Series III onwards it doesn’t really matter as much, and as of Series VIII the entire Red Dwarf crew are driving around in space somewhere

    #234359
    Bargain Bin Holly
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    The show made a good transition from character-driven comedy in mostly enclosed environments to including more science-fiction elements where the adventures were usually the basis for the comedy and the characters interacted around that. Think that’s a good summary, idk

    #234361

    He is, though.

    Potentially, although there’s every chance Kochanski and [some of] the rest of the crew are still out there alive.

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