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  • #116633
    Carlito
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    My point is they have had three seasons to assess the numbers and demograph that Community attracts and still decided to give it another run. I doubt NBC would bother ordering and giving prime time scheduling (even on a Friday) to a show that it felt was a lost cause, especially with advertisement slots to tout, whether they have part ownership or not.

    There was a vociferous outpouring when the show went on hiatus and its legend grew online and through social media enough that when it returned, its viewing figures were pretty respectable for once (for a couple of weeks at least). The fanbase is loyal, devoted and vocal and it made a difference. Where NBC has failed to effectively promote the show, its own audience took it upon themselves to do so and with demonstrable (if modest) results. That had to play at least some role in the decision to bring it back.

    Except they’re not bringing “it” back, because “it” was a product of Dan Harmon’s mind and he has been kicked to the curb so “it” no longer exists. I wonder if this was solely a Sony Pictures decision or whether NBC demanded it, and if not, how they feel about having ordered 13 episodes of a show only to see its showrunner get the boot.

    I think there’s a slight chance he will end up back in the mix somehow anyway so we shall see.

    #116505
    TheLeen
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    Okay, so why was Harmon fired? I thought he did an awesome job and I can’t find anyone who disagrees.

    It was pretty stupid to give Community a slot exactly up against BBT, but just scheduling it half an hour later would have ensured that most people who watch BBT on a Thursday night automatically switch to Community immediately after. I don’t see how giving it a COMPLETELY different slot on another day is doing anything.

    At least that’s how we do things in Germany, usually.

    #116452
    Carlito
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    > Okay, so why was Harmon fired? I thought he did an awesome job and I can’t find anyone who disagrees.

    Nothing has been announced officially, but the general consensus is that he was a public relations nightmare, was erratic and high maintenance, struggled to bring the shows in on time and within budget, directly led to a high turnover in writing staff with his words and actions, and refused to acquiesce to repeated instructions to open the show up to the more casual, mainstream viewer.

    You gotta respect him for standing up for himself and his vision. You also gotta concede, I guess, that it’s his own fault he’s gone. Still, very short sighted of Sony and/or NBC to figure “fuck the product – let’s get rid of this pain in the ass, churn out the remaining number of shows we need for syndication, then end it” rather than put up with Harmon for another half a year just to complete what he started so that the show, while costing the same and performing the same, will at least please the fan base it has acquired under Harmon and have a consistent tone throughout for syndication.

    #116625
    TheLeen
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    Thank you.

    Well; that sucks a bit.

    #206129
    si
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    So, season four begins very soon in the US. God knows when we’ll see it on the tellybox over here, but my sister is currently asleep on the settee, planning on getting up in about an hour, to download the new ep as soon as it’s on the interweb.
    I went back and started watching season one this evening, rewatched the first four episodes. It really is a great show, isn’t it? Very funny, so clever. :)
    Any views on s4e01 from American types would be interesting. ;)

    #206136
    Phil
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    http://www.avclub.com/articles/history-101,91985/

    Not my review, obviously, but if you wanted opinions from American types…

    I read it, and it didn’t feel spoilerish at all. But, as always, read at your own risk.

    #206139
    HelloMabel
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    And it is back on network TV, not just Hulu! Makes it much easier for me to watch, not having internet at home. Yet another show that G&T turned me on to.

    #206140
    si
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    Just watched it. Happy. :D

    #206144
    Ben Paddon
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    I found the first episode of the season to be very disappointing, like it was written by someone who doesn’t quite get what the show was about. It felt very Series VII, which makes sense considering the behind-the-scenes changes.

    #206148
    NoFro
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    I was pretty happy with it overall, though it was the first time I felt like the 22 minute runtime was a problem. Really felt like they didn’t have a time to fully develop some of the ideas. There was also a feeling of trying to recreate the Community vibe, which I thought they did really well for the most part but then I realised it was because they were retreading a lot of old material.

    This isn’t to say it was a bad show. I really enjoyed it. It just felt like they were overloading it with stuff to convince fans that EVERY SINGLE THING you liked about the last 3 seasons is still going to be there. Optimistic for the rest of the season though.

    #206342
    NoFro
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    After being quite happy with last week’s episode, this one just didn’t work for me at all.

    #206345
    si
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    Not watched last night’s yet. Meanwhile, my sister – massive Community nut – won a signed scrpt (from the Advanced D&D episode) and a Joel McHale-designed t-shirt last night on Twitter. She’s rather happy about that.

    #206346
    NoFro
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    Wow that’s really cool! Will be great for the description of the “love scene” alone.

    #206861
    si
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    If anyone’s remotely interested, my sister’s prize arrived this morning. Don’t worry, it’s from a *good* episode.

    #206862
    si
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    Sorry, I’ve ballsed the size up, haven’t I? Oh well, nobody reads this thread, it doesn’t matter.

    #209572
    HelloMabel
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    And now for season 5. Two episodes in, it’s not hilarious, but it’s promising. Jonathan Banks was good. I couldn’t say how much better season 5 is than season 4, which I haven’t watched, but tonight I had quite a few chuckles and one or two good belly laughs, courtesy of Abed, of course. Plus the familiar whooshing sound of references going over my head, which just makes me extra giddy about the ones I do get. Bring it on.

    #209582
    Ben Paddon
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    So far both episodes of season 5 have been far funnier than the entire fourth season. So that’s a plus.

    #209621
    HelloMabel
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    Yeah, I was advised to avoid season 4 by enough people. At some point I’ll watch it and form my own opinion, but currently there’s just not enough time.

    Thursday’s episode was great, though I felt the ending was a bit of a cop-out.

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