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  • #255407
    Spare Hand One
    Participant

    How can a person be clever and dedicated enough to know how to put pictures on Wikipedia, but not understand aspect ratios?

    Look at the squashage: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M-Corp_(Red_Dwarf)

    #255410
    Dave
    Participant

    I can’t see it.

    #255412
    Warbodog
    Member

    On the main Red Dwarf page on Wikipedia, someone’s bothered to list all the obsolete video releases and include arguably unnecessary details such as their respective UK and US catalogue numbers, but gave up while researching the release dates. The catalogue numbers aren’t listed for the DVDs and Blu-rays you can actually buy.

    Many visual and character elements bear similarities to the Trident nuclear submarine BBC documentary Defence of the Realm.

    Not read that about Red Dwarf before, and can’t see it mentioned anywhere else. Maybe that should’ve been the basis of Back to Earth.

    Didn’t bother to proofread the whole page, I have the attention span of a Red Dwarf fan.

    #255416
    Veni
    Member

    Oof, I’m afraid I’m the culprit behind this. Bold and Brash is the name.

    This was about a year ago and I made every photo I found the exact same aspect ratio cause I thought that was mandatory. I apologize, you can replace it, however.

    Also if you notice only Twentica, Give & Take, and M-Corp have pages. That’s cause Twentica was already there, and every other episode from XI and XII I tried making pages for would stop me as there were already redirects for the Red Dwarf list of episodes page and I didn’t know how to bypass it. So I only did Give & Take and M-Corp, both being horribly written abominations, whoops.

    #255423
    Katydid
    Participant

    I did Twentica.

    #255424
    Katydid
    Participant

    Well, someone else filled in the synopsis.

    #255439
    Seb Patrick
    Keymaster

    On the main Red Dwarf page on Wikipedia, someone’s bothered to list all the obsolete video releases and include arguably unnecessary details such as their respective UK and US catalogue numbers, but gave up while researching the release dates.

    Speaking as someone who spent a lot of time researching release dates for the VHSes for the Complete Guide on TOS, I can tell you it’s really, really difficult to find precise release dates for VHS in the UK in the 1990s. Especially seeing as (a) they often don’t seem to have had a specific “day one” release date so much as filtered out into shops roughly at a certain time and (b) in some cases the planned release date kept slipping and slipping to the extent that it became a running joke in the Smegazine.

    (If anyone does have hard evidence of more specific release dates for the videos than the ones I’ve got on TOS then I would be delighted to hear about it.)

    #257569
    Veni
    Member

    Alright you bastards, I fixed the fucking Wikipedia pages. New, shorter, concise synopses and new and improved photos with non-squashed aspect ratios.

    #257572
    Veni
    Member

    In fact I’m doing the same to the X photos as I speak, I need to get the other XI and XII episodes articles as well but it’s a pain in the balls creating the pages when they already have redirects at the “List of Red Dwarf episodes” page.

    If anybody knows a way around this, please advise.

    #257574
    Ridley
    Participant

    https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Timewave_(Red_Dwarf)&redirect=no

    You just click the “redirected from” link at the top of the page.

    Or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:WhatLinksHere/List_of_Red_Dwarf_episodes if you want to go the long way around.

    #257575
    Veni
    Member

    Lol I’ll guess I’ll start from Timewave and work my way up. I finished the X photos, correcting their aspect ratios. Their episode synopses may or may not be very good but they haven’t been marked so I’ll assume they’re alright.

    #257576
    Veni
    Member

    Thx btw

    #257577
    Veni
    Member

    Timewave done. I’m going to do my next available favorite Siliconia next then call it a day for now

    #257602
    Veni
    Member

    Right, I’m well fucking pissed off now. I just got done do the entire page for Samsara and load a preview only for Wikimedia servers to crash. God fucking damnit, I didn’t save the fucking shit now I have to rewrite the whole damn thing, only makes me hate that episode even more.

    #257603
    Dave
    Participant

    Ironically you seem to be being karmically punished for your attempt to do a good deed.

    #257604
    Ridley
    Participant

    (Aside: you don’t seem to be being karmically punished for your attempt to do a good deed, you seem to be being karmically rewarded for your attempt to do a bad deed.)

    #257605
    Veni
    Member

    Whatever the case, Samsara done now. I still have Krysis, Can of Worms, Mechocracy, and Skipper to go. I did them out of order to keep it from getting too mind-numbing but that’s not panning out, it’s a pain in the ass.

    I’m trying to get them all done by February 15, for obvious reasons, so I’ll get back to work on the others tomorrow. Probably Mechocracy next, nice change of pace doing an episode I actually like.

    #257606
    Nick R
    Participant

    Judging by the current version of the Samsara article, User:Polyamorph doesn’t think the episode is notable enough to have an article of its own. :(

    #257607
    Veni
    Member

    That prick also did that to Krysis. What the hell is that asshole’s problem, I bust my ass making these and some cunt just gallops in and slaps a tag demeaning it. Honestly.

    #257608
    Veni
    Member

    What makes those episodes any less notable than Parallel Universe or Pete. I’d like that chucklefuck to tell me.

    #257613
    MANI506
    Participant

    Thank you Veni, these are great fun to go through.

    #257614
    Veni
    Member

    Thank you for the feedback. It bothered me seeing XI and XII with episode pages for so long, I just didn’t have the knowledge of how to fix it for so long.

    I don’t copy and paste the synopsis for episodes, I go by memory and occasionally putting the episode itself on for reference, so it takes some time. I try to keep it at three paragraphs everytime too. I’m the least proud of Samsara, cause I thought I had it the first time and had to rewrite what remembered.

    #257615
    Veni
    Member

    *without episode pages

    #257616
    Ridley
    Participant

    Polyamorph sure likes glass.

    #257618

    Is Polyamorph suggesting Veni combine three pages into one?

    #257619
    Hamish
    Participant

    > What the hell is that asshole’s problem, I bust my ass making these and some cunt just gallops in and slaps a tag demeaning it. Honestly.

    Yep, that is what editing Wikipedia is like alright.

    #257620
    Veni
    Member

    So I sent him a message on his talk page asking what his issue with the episodes are and what I can do to sort them out, as I’m genuinely confused what his problem with them are. I’m not going to do Can of Worms and Skipper until I can hopefully get this sorted as I don’t want to risk any of my time being wasted for something he’ll possibly get deleted anyway.

    Unfortunate turn of events.

    #257621
    Ridley
    Participant

    How will we know if the other episodes are notable enough if you don’t make the pages?

    #257622
    Veni
    Member

    By whatever logic this guy is using, that’s very much up in the air.

    #257623
    Veni
    Member

    Right, what I’m getting from this guy is he wants more reviews, at least I assume cause he writes very legalese and vague on specifics. I’m going to try and add every review of these three episodes (knowing my luck, that number will quickly go up) available and try to save these articles.

    If anybody with reviews for Samsara, Krysis, or Mechocracy that isn’t from Den of Geek, Digital Spy, or CultBox can send it my way, I’ll appreciate it and add it to the article.

    #257624
    Veni
    Member

    If it can be from a “reliable source” as well, like RadioTimes or nearest equivalent, that’s what I’m looking for.

    #257625
    Veni
    Member

    If I’m honest, I’m so beaten with this stuff I can’t bring myself to hunt for this stuff, I’m not going to get the same online reviews like Series X got and it’s just that simple. It’s sad to say, but I’m afraid the man has got me by the balls here and there isn’t much I can do.

    I’d add Can of Worms and Skipper if I could, but this guy has surely got to be on my ass now after going out of his way to tag the three episodes and me now conversing with him. I don’t know what I can do here, so I’m pretty helpless on this.

    #257626
    Stephen Abootman
    Participant

    I haven’t checked these to see if the links still work but dug them up from a saved file from when I was collating the series reviews:

    SAMSARA
    http://www.cultbox.co.uk/reviews/episodes/red-dwarf-xi-s11e02-episode-2-review-samsara
    http://www.mymbuzz.com/2016/09/26/red-dwarf-xi-episode-ii-samsara-review/
    http://thepalaceofwisdom.co.uk/2016/09/review-red-dwarf-xi-episode-two-samsara/
    http://epicstream.com/reviews/Red-Dwarf-S11E2-Samsara—Review-A-new-twist-on-a-classic-episode

    Red Dwarf XI: 2 “Samsara” Review


    Red Dwarf XI: Review: Episode 2: Samsara

    Red Dwarf XI episode 2 review: Samsara


    http://www.digitalspy.com/tv/red-dwarf/review/a809549/red-dwarf-xi-episode-2-samsara-review-back-to-the-old-school/
    http://www.warpedfactor.com/2016/10/red-dwarf-11-episode-2-samsara-review.html

    Red Dwarf XI Episode 2 Review – ‘Samsara’

    KRYSIS
    http://www.cultbox.co.uk/reviews/episodes/red-dwarf-xi-s11e05-episode-5-review-krysis
    http://www.mymbuzz.com/2016/10/16/red-dwarf-xi-episode-v-krysis-review/
    http://thepalaceofwisdom.co.uk/2016/10/review-red-dwarf-xi-episode-five-krysis/
    http://epicstream.com/reviews/Red-Dwarf-S11E5-Krysis—Review-A-Kryten-centric-comedy-gem
    http://cultfix.co.uk/red-dwarf-xi-5-krysis-review-31436.htm
    Red Dwarf XI: Review: Episode 5: Krysis

    Red Dwarf XI episode 5 review: Krysis


    http://www.digitalspy.com/tv/red-dwarf/review/a811320/red-dwarf-xi-episode-5-krysis-review-back-on-top-form-as-kryten-meets-his-enemy/
    http://www.warpedfactor.com/2016/10/red-dwarf-11-episode-5-krysis-review.html

    Red Dwarf XI Episode 5 Review – ‘Krysis’

    MECHOCRACY:

    Red Dwarf XII Episode 4 Review – ‘Mechocracy’


    http://www.mymbuzz.com/2017/10/26/red-dwarf-xii-s12e04-mechocracy-review/

    Red Dwarf XII Episode 4 Review: Mechocracy


    http://thepalaceofwisdom.co.uk/2017/10/review-red-dwarf-xii-episode-four-mechocracy/
    Red Dwarf XII: Review: Episode 4: Mechocracy

    Red Dwarf XII: 4 “Mechocracy” Review

    Red Dwarf XII episode 4 review: Mechocracy

    #257627
    Veni
    Member

    Hey, thanks. I didn’t think anyone was gonna be able to help, but this has motivated me again. I’ll edit them into the articles and see how it goes.

    #257628
    Stephen Abootman
    Participant

    No worries, the original review scores were posted at the below below in case they’ve vanished:

    XI: https://www.ganymede.tv/forums/topic/xi-review-scores/
    XII: https://www.ganymede.tv/forums/topic/xii-review-scores/

    #257633
    Ben Saunders
    Participant

    The madman actually went out and found all those links. GG, that is very commendable

    #257638
    Seb Patrick
    Keymaster

    On the subject of the video release dates, incidentally, I’ve recently found more specific information about the dates for Series II and III (the ones where I’d previously had to be more general on TOS). Every episode/series in the Complete Guide on TOS should now have a VHS release date, so if anyone wanted to go through and add them on the Wiki as well, they’d be welcome to…

    (I feel like, much as I’d like to, in my capacity I can’t really go messing with the Wiki any more, as I know they frown on people actually connected with a thing working on it. But if you go back to the mid-late 2000s you’ll see an awful lot of work done by me to try and get it up to scratch from where it had been before then…)

    #257643
    Katydid
    Participant

    I did a hell of a lot of work cleaning up the main Red Dwarf article and adding technical information a few years back. Still proud of that effort.

    #257670

    Right, I’m well fucking pissed off now. I just got done do the entire page for Samsara and load a preview only for Wikimedia servers to crash. God fucking damnit, I didn’t save the fucking shit now I have to rewrite the whole damn thing, only makes me hate that episode even more.

    Agh, fucking hell! This always happens on the very odd occasion I don’t do select all -> copy before pressing submit.

    Good work on these, anyway!

    #257674
    Veni
    Member

    Thank you so much.

    Speaking of which, I finally did Can of Worms: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Can_of_Worms_(Red_Dwarf)

    So now it’s just Skipper, and when the special finally comes out, I’ll do a page on that as well. I just hope I don’t get ass-blasted by the Wikipedia stormtroopers for not being relevant enough.

    #257675
    Veni
    Member

    I’m considering the bold move of removing the tags placed on Samsara, Krysis, and Mechocracy myself for three reasons:

    1. I do believe I’ve adequately addressed the problem with my past edits
    2. The user, Polyamorph, has OK’d my prior articles for Officer Rimmer, Cured, and Siliconia evidently by simply fixing the references for directing toward Ganymede & Titan and not adding the tag
    3. Nothing has been followed-up on the subject so if I don’t it’ll just be left in limbo for who knows how long

    I’m seeking some advice on how to proceed

    #257679
    tombow
    Participant

    I remember back in 2003/4 or whenever wiki first got big, I got brave enough to edit the Richard Laymon (horror author) page. It was just to add some information about horror lit awards I knew he had won which his then tiny article didn’t mention. Someone else soon decided the page “needed an overhaul”, and rewrote the whole thing with better grammar/flow, including my addition.

    Of course not only has Laymon sadly passed away since then, his wiki page is now a huge monster going over his whole life and detailing in depth his influence on the current “splatter-punk” genre…

    #257682
    Veni
    Member

    Skipper is, and with it the entirety of Series XI and XII, are done: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skipper_(Red_Dwarf)

    #257683
    Veni
    Member

    “Skipper is are done”

    Just put me out of my misery

    #257687
    Pete Part Three
    Participant

    Classic Polyamorph.

    #257860
    Veni
    Member

    I tried taking a look at the home media releases on the Red Dwarf main page, however it seems really messed-up and beyond my frame of reference to really manage. I think it mainly stems from them all having categories in regions A, B, or C which complicates matters when you get to the Blu-ray releases and how you have situations like the I-VIII Blu-ray only being released in Japan and nowhere else in region A, but there being no convenient way to relay that information. Plus I’m unable to verify if the releases for region C concerning Back to Earth and XI are accurate, and assuming they are, I can’t find a release for X and XII since they’d surely have been included as well.

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