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  • #83318
    Kris Carter
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    What great news!

    Here’s hoping this new episode is great, and ties things up well. And please Doug…. do NOT end this on a cliffhanger. Give it an ending that’s an ending, and if further shows are greenlit later, all the better.

    #83320
    pfm
    Participant

    > Here?s hoping this new episode is great, and ties things up well. And please Doug?. do NOT end this on a cliffhanger. Give it an ending that?s an ending, and if further shows are greenlit later, all the better.

    D’you know, I don’t think it matters one jot whether it ends on a cliffhanger or not, whether the whole of Dwarf ended on a cliffhanger, just as long as it’s a good one (good cliffhanger = Out Of Time, bad = Only The Good…).

    Saying that, I would be VERY happy if this 1 hour episode was completely standalone. Any mention of the VIII cliffhanger should last approx zero to five seconds. Is anyone seriously that arsed about it being resolved? Also, rather than simply being nostalgic it would be great if there was a solid new episode in there. I wouldn’t want an hour just of references to the past, gags repeated and stuff. The fact that it’s ten years on should be brought up though.

    #83321
    John Hoare
    Participant

    One thing I’d say is that we should be careful about assuming what the content of the programme will be, just because Rob uses the word “episode”.

    Sure, it might be a regular episode – either standalone, or a VIII resolution. But let’s not forget that this is also a programme in the year of or near to Dwarf‘s 20th anniversary. As such, it might take the form of something similar to the ‘Allo ‘Allo or Goodies specials a while back. We have absolutely no idea what kind of show this might be!

    #83324
    John Hoare
    Participant

    Anyway, I think the important thing to take from all this is… why the hell is regional telly in the US far more interesting than in the UK these days?

    #83325
    hummingbird
    Participant

    Sure, it might be a regular episode – either standalone, or a VIII resolution. But let?s not forget that this is also a programme in the year of or near to Dwarf?s 20th anniversary. As such, it might take the form of something similar to the ?Allo ?Allo or Goodies specials a while back. We have absolutely no idea what kind of show this might be!

    It had crossed my mind that it might be a “best of” or a clip show kind of thing, but the fact that it says there’s a script being finalised would suggest otherwise ….?

    *prays*

    #83326

    New Red Dwarf on the television? And then, presumably, somewhere on the internet?

    Well, I dunno about all of you, but *I* came.

    #83328
    listerssock
    Participant

    I’m positively wetting myself with anticipation!! Hope it live up wo expectations :D

    #83331
    pfm
    Participant

    > I?m positively wetting myself with anticipation!!

    As opposed to negatively wetting yourself, which would be a little like the gag in Backwards…

    #83335
    Nakrophile
    Participant

    Excellent news. Now we wait.

    #83338
    Paul Muller
    Participant

    My mind has been officially fucking blown.

    I go away for one week and this happens.

    Just look how surprised I am –>

    #83342
    James
    Participant

    It’s a Christmas special where the crew encounter a giant spinning Christmas tree.

    #83344
    Pete Part Three
    Participant

    It’s a big screen adaptation of the Christmas mobisode.

    #83345
    Ian Symes
    Keymaster

    It’s a small, off-duty Czechoslovakian traffic warden.

    #83346
    Paul Muller
    Participant

    The more I think about this the more there’s potential for it to be either completely fucking brilliant or utterly atrocious.

    I’m thinking either a continuation of generic series VIII style toilet/periods/penis jokes strung across a plot thinner than a slice of reformed ham, or on the other hand, something which demonstrates the brillance of the DVD’s and the flares of genius which are evident in ‘Bodysnatcher’ and the other ‘lost’ material.

    I don’t like to bang on about how much I hated the last series but it seemed dated in 1999 so a continuation of the format would probably go down like a ton of bricks with modern audiences and TV exec wanker types.

    And please, no bastard spacefaring father christmases.

    #83351
    Mr Flibble
    Participant

    a plot thinner than a slice of reformed ham

    Hang on! You’re a few words short!

    I suggest “a plot thinner than a slice of reformed ham that’s been cut in half, thoroughly sanded down and fed through a mangle”

    #83353
    ChrisM
    Participant

    That reminds me of something that could be said in Blackadder, another sitcom that’s been away for a while (in terms of new episodes I mean.)

    #83354
    Tarka Dal
    Participant

    I’d love a Dwarfy Xmas. Growing up it always felt like something we should have had.

    #83356
    Pete Part Three
    Participant

    >Blackadder, another sitcom that?s been away for a while (in terms of new episodes I mean.)

    And should also probably be kept that way.

    #83358
    Danny Stephenson
    Keymaster

    Blackadder, another sitcom that?s been away for a while (in terms of new episodes I mean.)

    And should also probably be kept that way.

    I hated Back and Forth. Had they continued off the back of Blackadder Goes Forth then it might have continued to work. We’ll just never know…

    #83360
    ChrisM
    Participant

    >Blackadder, another sitcom that?s been away for a while (in terms of new episodes I mean.)

    And should also probably be kept that way.

    Do you say that because you disliked Blackadder, or you just think it had it’s day and got worse as time went by?

    (That’s not my view mind, just listing possibilities. Although I agree Back and Forth probably wasn’t as good as the series (although I liked it overall). Goes Forth was great though.)

    #83361
    John Hoare
    Participant

    I don?t like to bang on about how much I hated the last series but it seemed dated in 1999

    I don’t think it was dated at all. Just a bit crap.

    #83363
    Danny Stephenson
    Keymaster

    Do you say that because you disliked Blackadder, or you just think it had it?s day and got worse as time went by?

    I can’t speak for Pete, but I believe that just time went by that the dynamics of the writers had drifted apart and couldn’t quite recapture the magic of the earlier series. And i feel I was a little harsh on saying I hated “Back and Forth”, but I was disappointed with it.

    #83366
    Daff
    Participant

    The one thing I like about this (If it happens, not sure of that at all, disclaimer) is that it could be a total reboot of the franchise, Red Dwarf finally gets to Earth then spin off from that, or it’s just a continuation of the previous narrative. A spin off series with all the original characters could be awesome and something that has not been seen before. (Red Dwarf: Earth sounds cool)

    Fact of the matter is that any Dwarf related material would be good for most of us reading here, even if it ended up being a retrospective. However even a DVD only release has more legs than could be imagined a year ago, especially now Blu-ray is the format of choice.

    #83367
    pfm
    Participant

    The movie screenplay shouldn’t be forgotten. I would guess that the special isn’t related to it at all SO we’ve also got that to look forward to seeing in whatever form. I would love a radio dramatisation of it. It would be so brilliant.

    #83368
    Phil
    Participant

    >(Red Dwarf: Earth sounds cool)

    After-MASH was awesome.

    >even if it ended up being a retrospective.

    Maybe I don’t share the majority view on this, but a retrospective here in the age of full-series DVDs seems kind of pointless to anybody but the absolute most casual of fans. I will be disappointed if that’s what it is.

    #83370
    pfm
    Participant

    I’ve just thought of something (now there’s a thought). I remember reading that the UKTV channels (run by BBC Worldwide and Virgin) are now more interested in co-producing new shows due to their new channel, Watch, appearing in autumn, on which they want to eventually achieve 50% original programming, 50% classic repeats.

    Could we see Red Dwarf on Watch?

    #83372
    hummingbird
    Participant

    Is it Friday yet?

    #83373
    Zombie Jim Undead
    Participant

    Honestly, I move house and go to France for a week and look what happens.

    Splendid news, tentatively excited and amused to see that the bickering and cries of “It’ll probably be shit” have already begun.

    Huzzah!

    (it might be, though ;)

    #83375
    Zombie Jim Undead
    Participant

    Interesting little aside in the Aintitcool forums:

    “As a source relatively close to the production team of Coronation Street (UK Soap) I can at least confirm Craig Charles (lister) will not be on set from the end of September to mid way through Novemeber.
    This was not a confirmed break up until recently (as he’s already had his holiday leave) and we wanted to believe it was a contractually arranged Red Dwarf related. So it’s very plausible.”

    So it looks like it’ll be more than just a clip show if he’s off for that long.

    #83376
    Pete Part Three
    Participant

    >I can?t speak for Pete, but I believe that just time went by that the dynamics of the writers had drifted apart and couldn?t quite recapture the magic of the earlier series. And i feel I was a little harsh on saying I hated ?Back and Forth?, but I was disappointed with it.

    Yup, that pretty much sums it up.

    #83377
    Zombie Jim Undead
    Participant

    I just thought Back and Forth was really feeble and rather depressing. Only just better than SpiderPlant Man.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_07mqQ9RaTk

    #83378
    Seb Patrick
    Keymaster

    ?As a source relatively close to the production team of Coronation Street (UK Soap) I can at least confirm Craig Charles (lister) will not be on set from the end of September to mid way through Novemeber.
    This was not a confirmed break up until recently (as he?s already had his holiday leave) and we wanted to believe it was a contractually arranged Red Dwarf related. So it?s very plausible.?

    So it looks like it?ll be more than just a clip show if he?s off for that long.

    REHAB.

    #83379
    Pete Part Three
    Participant

    >I just thought Back and Forth was really feeble and rather depressing. Only just better than SpiderPlant Man.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_07mqQ9RaTk

    As Spidey parodies go, this is slightly better: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_07mqQ9RaTk

    #83382
    ChrisM
    Participant

    Heh. Spider-plant man. First time I’ve seen that.

    (Rather liked it actually. Although the batman stuff made me wince a bit.)

    #83389
    red-dwarf-movie-rip
    Participant

    Nice going Andrew I’m sure Mr. Bye wanted to be outed like that what’s next are you going to tell us that Peter Piper is really Spider-Plant-Man? : )

    #83390
    Andrew
    Participant

    Sorry if I’ve offended. That information actually was ‘out’ on the net already…

    #83384
    Andrew
    Participant

    And a button push later…

    #83391
    red-dwarf-movie-rip
    Participant

    Was just having fun actually i wonder if they shot that on film it looks like it was and it looks good.

    #83393
    pfm
    Participant

    I wonder if any pre-production has been done on this episode. Costume and set designs etc. That’s a thought, what will the set be like?? Kryten’s suit/head? Ship design? It would be a shame if all these things were made just for one episode, but hey. Obviously there’s the possibility of old stuff being reused. Do any old Dwarf sets exist?

    #83394
    thomasaevans
    Participant
    #83395
    Phil
    Participant

    They can buy the original Cat suit on ebay.

    #83418
    thomasaevans
    Participant

    http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/showbiz/tv/article1615283.ece

    IT BEGINS!!!!!

    4 special episodes for digital channel ‘Dave’???

    #83422

    > 4 special episodes for digital channel ?Dave????

    They’re just making it up now.

    #83425
    hummingbird
    Participant

    I don’t like the sound of it.
    It’s that phrase ‘best bits’.

    Let’s hope that that paragon of journalism ‘The Sun’ is, in fact, making it up.

    #83430
    Phil
    Participant

    The “new sketches and best bits” arrangement seems to suggest that it’ll just be some new material written to bookend the clips.

    I’m really hoping The Sun is wrong about this (and it seems there’s plenty of reason to suspect that they might be), because I genuinely don’t see the value in clip-shows in an age where we can rent entire series on DVD, or pop over to YouTube. It’s pointless.

    Pleeeeeease let the new material outweigh the “best bits” by a factor of 50:1.

    #83433
    Tonguetied
    Participant

    I like how the sun reminds us about the ”good” natures of the cast in that article. I’m with Phil, clip shows are shit, there’s no need at all.

    #83454
    Pete Part Three
    Participant

    Clip shows?

    Oh, fuck off.

    #83457
    Squeaky Gibson
    Participant

    I really hope that after all this build up, it won’t go to Dave. Red Dwarf and adverts are a horrible mix and totally ruin the show. the special(s) should air on the BBC, that is the shows natural home, the thought of new material being farmed out to Dave, makes me feel sick. what about the Fan’s who don’t have Freeview/FreeSat, how are they going to watch it? personally i’d like a special shown on either BBC2 or BBC1, with a Doctor Who stlye Confidential on BBC3 shortly after.

    #83459
    Tonguetied
    Participant

    What premises do you think could be set up, I mean 10 years needs a continuity explanation, maybe just a throw away line or a short scene detailing what happened, like Lister at the start of Tikka series 7. I hope it isn’t all the cast sitting in the bunkroom reminiscing over past events. Then again I hope it doesn’t just try to redo old classic gags, needs to be fresh new stuff. Not too action orientated as series 7. I think doug will use some of the Earth script that was written. Although we all know what the conclusion was to that, so it would be better if he tinkered with the ending so it didn’t involve Red Dwarf crashing into the earth and wiping out the future species.

    #83458

    > with a Doctor Who stlye Confidential on BBC3 shortly after.

    Brilliant idea!

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