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  • #203370
    Squeaky Gibson
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    Hi guys, a while back I said I’d post my friends views on series X. well in the end she decided to leave the series after Trojan but she has since seen Dear Dave and here are short observations.
    Note: she didn’t like BTE

    she found Trojan a bit forced and then avoided the series.

    Then on Sunday she watched Dear Dave and said she found this very funny. she enjoyed the scene with Lister and the French vending machine and some of Cat.

    Her favourite scene which she has been raving about is Lister getting close to vending machine and Rimmer and Kryten’s reactions.
    she commented on the masks nose but said part she missed was I-II opening shot of Lister painting the ship.

    She earlier in the run caught Entangled but didn’t rate the BEGGs or scenes of Kryten and Cat talking in sequence.
    Sorry this was short piece.

    #203372
    mick
    Participant

    >she found Trojan a bit forced and then avoided the series.

    Christ if I avoided every TV series that I didn’t like the first episode of my DVD collection would consist of nothing, good to know your ‘friend’ really gave series X a fair go :-/

    #203373
    Seb Patrick
    Keymaster

    I shudder to imagine a reality where I gave up on Arrested Development after the underwhelming pilot episode.

    #203374
    MANI506
    Participant

    I’ve said this before but my mate who I went to DJ97 and 98 with and has hated everything since series VII is loving the new series! He has rated every episode at least 8/10.

    #203375
    Pongo
    Participant

    I shudder to imagine a reality where I gave up on Arrested Development after the underwhelming pilot episode.

    Haha, that is a terrible analogy.

    #203376
    Slainmonkey
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    my view has been kinda a mixed bag, I liked Lemons, I loved Entangled but I found Trojan, Fathers and Suns (though only because of a few minutes of weak material) and Dear Dave to be something of mixed bangs. Every episode has had moments of brilliance but by and large it seems too unfocused and doesn’t end up being nearly as good as it could be. I kinda feel as though Naylor is spreading himself too thin in terms of production to the point where the product suffers. Maybe it he wasn’t direction and was more focused on making the scrips all they could be then maybe we could have a stronger series 11……if one is indeed made.

    #203383
    Phil
    Participant

    Don’t know why we’re comparing giving up on a series after an episode to giving up on an entire show after its pilot.

    In the case of the pilot it’s presumably your first and only experience with the show, so while you have every right to give up you also have to realize you’re missing out on that show finding its groove.

    In this case it’s a fan who disliked the more recent batch of specials, came back for the show’s latest revival, and determined it still wasn’t in line with what she was looking for. Pretty big difference.

    #203384
    Jonathan Capps
    Keymaster

    I gave up on Series VIII on original broadcast after episode 3 or 4, so I can understand the compulsion.

    #203404
    pfm
    Participant

    > I shudder to imagine a reality where I gave up on Arrested Development after the underwhelming pilot episode.

    You would be driven to this…

    http://youtu.be/7Fa_FKC69f0?t=5s

    #203408
    mick
    Participant

    > I gave up on Series VIII on original broadcast after episode 3 or 4…

    Christ you stuck it out for an episode longer than I did.

    Don’t know why we’re comparing giving up on a series after an episode to giving up on an entire show after its pilot.

    > That wasnt really my intention… using Battlestar Galactica as an example, it has some damn weak starts to series that turned out to be my favourites, same goes for Quantum Leap and Sliders.

    #203422
    si
    Participant

    I gave up on How I Met Your Mother after one episode. Lots of people seem to like it. Can’t be bothered to give a shit.

    #203424
    Jonathan Capps
    Keymaster

    You should, it’s brilliant.

    #203446
    Stephen R. Fletcher
    Participant

    Totally agree with Cappsy, it’s one of my fav shows!

    #203469
    NoFro
    Participant

    Yep agreed on How I Met Your Mother. Admittedly it’s not a show I watch every episode of but just one I’ll watch when it’s on when I’m channel flicking but it always provides solid laughs. If there weren’t so many other great shows about at the moment I’d happily sit down with a boxset and work my way through it all.

    #203474
    si
    Participant

    When BBC2 started showing it years ago, I watched and wanted to love it, because I adore Alyson Hannigan. Didn’t like it, BBC2 gave up on it, no-one bothered about it, then E4 or whoever started showing it, and everybody loved it. Whatever. I end up not watching the stuff I want to – I’ve got a month’s worth of Fresh Meat and Friday Night Dinner on my Sky+ box I’ve not watched yet. There’s a Rob Brydon show from over two years ago I’ve still not watched. *mutter moan old man rambling*

    #203478
    Pete Part Three
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    I’d never seen it before I went travelling a couple of years ago, then every country I travelled to seemed to show it (it seems to be huge worldwide) and I caught assorted episodes as it seemed to be a safe choice when watching with a group of people. I love the framing device, I really like the cast, the continuity is clever…and that’s all the positives I have to say about it. Is it funny? Not especially.

    #203514
    Jo
    Participant

    When BBC2 started showing it years ago, I watched and wanted to love it, because I adore Alyson Hannigan. Didn’t like it, BBC2 gave up on it, no-one bothered about it, then E4 or whoever started showing it, and everybody loved it. Whatever. I end up not watching the stuff I want to – I’ve got a month’s worth of Fresh Meat and Friday Night Dinner on my Sky+ box I’ve not watched yet. There’s a Rob Brydon show from over two years ago I’ve still not watched. *mutter moan old man rambling*

    You only watched one episode and then gave up. therefore your opinion is null and void.

    #203523
    takerdemon
    Participant

    I have friends that don’t watch the show and what they have seen they’re not enamoured with. However, several of these friends caught some of ‘Dear Dave’ and the French vending machine and Cat’s charades cracked them all up. Legit woofer reaction too. I’m wondering if those are the same points that tickled the old series fans mentioned in the first post of this thread.

    Just an interesting point that those elements seem to grab the attention of the non/casual fans.

    I still attest if these people watched the series in full that they’d see even more in it but then I’m a grumpy longtime fan.

    #203540
    mick
    Participant

    I bloody LOVE How I Met Your Mother, Si give it another go man you’re really missing out.

    #203573
    Jo
    Participant

    >I bloody LOVE How I Met Your Mother, Si give it another go man you’re really missing out.

    I agree! I’ll admit, it took me a couple of episodes to get into it to start with, but then I was hooked. It’s one of my favourite shows now.

    #203583
    si
    Participant

    That’s me telt.

    #203587
    anniescribe
    Participant

    My problem is opposite in that I liked HIMYM for several seasons, then the charm kind of wore off for me.

    #203607
    CackThosePants
    Participant

    Lost is a program that several times I nearly gave up with. I remember the end of a later series I was definitely going to give it up – then they started with the flash forwards…….clever fuckers.

    #203611
    MANI506
    Participant

    I’m so glad I stuck with Battlestar Galactica after the first three not particularly good episodes. I can’t remember much about it now but I was properly hooked from episode 4 until the very end.

    #203650
    Stephen R. Fletcher
    Participant

    I’m slightly ashamed to admit that when I first saw Spaced, I didn’t like it. I saw the first episode and wasn’t too impressed, then the second episode just bored me on first watch. But once I got to the Paintball episode, I was laughing my arse off and not long after that, I fell in love. Even the first few episodes I now love when I re-watch them.

    My problem is opposite in that I liked HIMYM for several seasons, then the charm kind of wore off for me.

    I have to admit, I wasn’t too impressed with the latest episode to air from the eighth season in America. The writing is still strong for the most part, but the problem that I had with this episode is that the characters seemed to be acting too over the top. Particularly, Marshall and Lily, but especially Marshall. Over than that, the season has been good, but that episode could’ve been better IMO.

    #203696
    John Hoare
    Participant

    I’ve seen a fair few people outside fandom cite their least favourite episode this series as Lemons.

    #203697
    mick
    Participant

    That was also the general consensus at work.

    #203698
    NoFro
    Participant

    Lemons certainly had a weak start but once they were on Earth I really enjoyed it. There was a lot of stuff which really made it feel like old school Dwarf to me. Perhaps a result of the main four sharing a lot of scenes or the research that had obviously gone into some of the ideas.

    #203719
    anniescribe
    Participant

    For me and Series X, “Entangled” comes in sixth-place. It’s not that it’s bad, per se, it’s just my least favorite of the new series. (“The Beginning” and “Trojan” are my favorites. But, you know – look at my icon. :-) )

    As for HIMYM, I’d agree the characters are starting to feel like parodies of themselves. I think this happens with most shows after seven seasons (at least in the U.S.) – I can name a few really good shows that either stopped at year 7 and it was just in time for it to end, or a bit past, or they went past 7 and sucked. I believe part of it is each season airs year after year, with no breaks (like we get in Dwarf), plus there are so many episodes each year. It’s not impossible to keep quality up through that many, but I think it’s more difficult than with fewer each season like the UK or American cable tends to have.

    #203721
    HelloMabel
    Participant

    I can’t share RDX with others yet :( but will have a big viewing party once I get the DVD and report back.

    I gave HIMYM a pass because there’s just too many shows, too much real life and not enough time. The few eps I saw confirmed my hypothesis that Neil Patrick Harris can do any role.

    Apropos, I got to see NPH on stage in “Rent” in 1998 and yes, he was awesome in that too.

    #203724
    clem
    Participant

    Just yesterday I finally got to see the Batman: The Brave and the Bold episode with NPH as the voice of the Music Meister, and it’s great. He’s brilliant in the Harold and Kumar films as well.

    #203731
    Ben Kirkham
    Participant

    “I’ve seen a fair few people outside fandom cite their least favourite episode this series as Lemons.”

    They’re bloody idiots.

    #203736
    si
    Participant

    I’m a bloody idiot. Lemons is my least favourite, too. :/

    #203739
    Stephen R. Fletcher
    Participant

    It’s my least favourite of RDX, too.

    #203740
    clem
    Participant

    Mine too, at the moment.

    #203745
    Ben Kirkham
    Participant

    Sorry everyone, what I meant to say was:

    “They’re all lovely, beautiful, stunning idiots.”

    ;)

    #203773
    John Hoare
    Participant

    It does seem to be the most divisive episode of a divisive series.

    It’s the only episode I really, really like.

    #203817
    MANI506
    Participant

    I thought the first three episodes were consistently great. Even Taiwan Tony was only on screen for about a minute. Episodes four and five were a bit scrappy and The Beginning delivered in all departments. I still got the biggest buzz from Trojan and probably the most laughs as well. But what do I know, I liked Craig Charles’ stand up.

    #203910
    Carlito
    Participant

    I’m a happy bunny because I liked them all. There were no bad episodes to me. Dear Dave was the weakest, to my tastes, but I still enjoyed it.

    I have been showing the series weekly to a friend who is at best a casual viewer of Dwarf and generally disliked anything post VI, and he has loved it. He seemed least interested in Dear Dave, didn’t think much of Entangled (which is my fave), but LOVED Trojan and Fathers & Suns and enjoyed Lemons and The Beginning.

    #203925
    Blisschick
    Participant

    ATM, The Beginning is my favorite, but I can’t say that I have any particular one that I entirely dislike. I’ve gotten *coff* downloads from a place *coff* and am about to watch them all in a row. With watching the DVD’s, I like the continuity of sitting and watching them all at once to get a better feel of the flow of the stories, and I haven’t had that opportunity lately.

    As for the DVD, I *will* be getting an official copy to add to my collection. I know people gotta eat. (And the copies are crap, anyway.)

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