Torchwood Using Their Own Brig…

[littlesmegger]

Looks like Red Dwarf aren’t the only place to have a hidden 13th floor. The new series of Torchwood [Children of Earth] is going to be based around a place called “Floor 13”, and images of a lift’s buttons have been seen where the 13th number seems to be missing… ring any bells?

From a technical standpoint it’s going to be the largest set BBC Wales has ever built… if that interests anyone… maybe…

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[SeeYouAtThePartyRichter]

Captain Picard’s security officer gets a St. John’s Ambulance certificate? oh, I see now.

[JamesTC]

First they make Cassandra who looked just like the one in Dwarf and now they do this, we might aswell call it Doctor Dwarf, well actually no, that would be misleading.

[littlesmegger]

Although it would make for quite the spin off, with quite the obvious target audience…

[Dave]

http://www.wulfsweltonline.de/bilder%20neu/brig002.jpg

[Ian Symes]

First they make Cassandra who looked just like the one in Dwarf

Yeah, floating head of actress suspended in a tank-like console, CGI eyes and lips pasted on to a giant stretch of skin – what’s the difference?

[JamesTC]

Oh come on, you know they looked like each other.

[Ian Symes]

Uncanny.

[JamesTC]

What about in ‘New Earth’ when she is a normal human.

[Ian Symes]

Then she looks like Zoe Wannamaker. Clearly a rip-off from My Family.

[pfm]

Or Harry Potter until she threw a strop about money and they didn’t ask her back.

[Pete Part Three]

Well, you can prove anything with facts, can’t you?

[pfm]

Correct.

[RedDwarfFan2982]

Thier both disemboided heads/Skin. Even Danny JJ saoid that th Cassandras were similar (back in the red part 1 commentary and Cassandra Commentary) He also mention that they have used the name GELF.

[J_Spaced]

Yep, except that he’d /heard/ they had a Cassandra and he’d misheard “Gelth”. I think the commentaries were either at the time or just before those episodes aired.

It is the boy’s running gag that everyone copied Red Dwarf, up to, I think, Jane Austen time-travelling in order to steal Red Dwarf’s ideas from “Beyond a Joke”.

[Iain Lee]

According to my “friend” “Barry”, Doctor Who once had a character called Iain. Should I sue?

[Seb Patrick]

Thier both disemboided heads/Skin. Even Danny JJ saoid that th Cassandras were similar (back in the red part 1 commentary and Cassandra Commentary) He also mention that they have used the name GELF.

Yeah, uh, getting your info from a persistently-vandalised Wikipedia article isn’t really the best course of action in the “looking smart” stakes. Neither is assuming that Danny John Jules knows much about Doctor Who, come to that.

[RedDwarfFan2982]

I didn’t get it from wiki. I listened to the commentary myself

[Andrew]

Doesn’t make Danny right.

[ChrisM]

Appearances asside, were they both inspired by the Greek myth? I know Red Dwarf’s Cassandra certainly was, and the story bears that out with her powers of prophesy, etc. The Doctor Who version… well that’s a bit of a stretch. (Stretch, get it! Actually the pun didn’t occur to me until afterwards, but never mind.) I suppose the cyclical nature of the second episode she appears in is somewhat prophetic. Her past inspiring her future, etc.

[JamesTC]

Danny was just joking in the commentary, I still stand by that they look like each other though.

[J_Spaced]

>Danny was just joking in the commentary, I still stand by that they look like each other though.

Yes, they both have eyes and a mouth.

[RedDwarfFan2982]

to andrews comment: Doesn?t make Danny right.
never said he was just qouted what he said

[si]

As this is allegedly a Torchwood thread, I wonder if it’s worth mentioning here – Radio 4, today, tomorrow, Friday, 2.15pm; BBC1, next week, Monday – Friday, 9pm.

So, you know. There.

[J_Spaced]

>to andrews comment: Doesn?t make Danny right.
>never said he was just qouted what he said

To be fair, and I’m not bashing, just putting how I saw it: your comment seemed to be in support of the earlier thread opinion that the Cassandra in Doctor Who was somehow a rip-off or copy of the one from Red Dwarf. That’s the conclusion I drew and the conclusion Andrew came to. (I assume.)

If you weren’t posting it to say that you thought Danny was right, then it wasn’t very clear that was the case.

Back to Torchwood: seriously excited at this epic prospect, although knowing my luck I’ll be watching it all on iPlayer a week after everyone in the office has seen it.

Trailer looks brilliant and the article in Doctor Who Magazine was absolutely tantalising.

[RedDwarfFan2982]

Sorry if that I didn’t put it clearly enough. I was just saying that’s what Danny said in the comentary. Sorry for the confusion

[Wilbur]

Just to contribute and flog the dead horse- I thought RD’s Cassandra was played by Zoe Wannamaker when I first saw it aired- DW’s was. When DW’s Cassandra first appears, she’s in the same room as the Face of Beau (or whatever) who looks just like RD’s Cassandra…

[Wilbur]

Anyway, new challenge- Red Dwarf stole Cassandra from Only Fools And Horses. Discuss.

[Ben Paddon]

When I was a stupid young’n, I always thought that Cassandra from OFAH was Hattie. Because I was an idiot.

[J_Spaced]

Same haircut. Plus they both have eyes and a mouth. No wait, I’ve done that one…

[JamesTC]

When I was a young’n I thought that when TV was Black and White it was because everything was B&W, simpler time.

[Danny Stephenson]

When I was a young?n I thought that when TV was Black and White it was because everything was B&W, simpler time.

“and God spake ‘Let there be colour’ and there was colour, and snooker became a much better game”

[J_Spaced]

>?and God spake ?Let there be colour? and there was colour, and snooker became a much better game?

No it didn’t. It would take a lot more than colour to do that.

[JamesTC]

They should have a rainbow coloured ball in snooker.

[ChrisM]

I like snooker. Only to play though*. Not to watch.

*Or pool.

[J_Spaced]

And that’s another bad miss…

[Ben Paddon]

Snooker would be more entertaining if it were real-time instead of turn-based.

[littlesmegger]

Aaaand back onto Torchwood, what did people make of Day One? I thought it was pretty good actually!

A lot of new info, and a very good cliffhanger… a cliffhanger telling us they’re bored of the set and want to build a new one! Haha!

[ChrisM]

I went upstairs for a sleep so I wouldn’t fall asleep during the programme…. and missed it. (My bodyclock is in a strange state at the moment, I sleep during the day and stay awake all night.) I was hoping I’d catch the repeat on BBC3, but it was already 15 minutes in…

It’s not ‘on demand’ (yet anyway.) I’ll try and catch it on BBC iplayer before the morrow like.

Edit- Just saw it! Very good so far.

[J_Spaced]

Absolutely awesome start! This is how Torchwood should have been from the beginning. Excellent.

[JamesTC]

Better than Series 1 Torchwood, not as good as Series 2 though I will wait to judge it because it is a multiple part story and will probably work better after the other episodes.

[Pete Part Three]

Great stuff. Good to see the show finally building on its potential. Hopefully the other 4 episodes will be as strong.

[si]

Even my mum enjoyed it, and she can’t stand Torchwood. Brilliant stuff.

[JamesTC]

So is Torchwood going to carry on next year? And SJA for that matter.

[John Hoare]

Daily reviews of the show are going on NTS here:

http://www.noisetosignal.org/2009/06/torchwood-children-of-earth

[si]

There was one particular little girl in one of the ‘playground freeze’ scenes who was really giving it some welly – hilarious!

Line of the night – “Have you gone bender?!”

[ChrisM]

>There was one particular little girl in one of the ?playground freeze? scenes who was really giving it some welly – hilarious!

Heh, I noticed some of the kids couldn’t quite manage the still motion thing. I wonder if they still play musical statues any more?

[JamesTC]

The Jack corpse thing was bloody brilliant, very well done I thought. Overall an imrpovement on the previous episode.

[ChrisM]

Episode two: really good! I hope they keep this up.

So with Jack, they only found 2-3 bits right? I guess they fused together and the rest regenerated? Stretching the healing stuff, but I really don’t mind.

[TheLeen]

So I guess I have to start watching Torchwood now, for real.

[J_Spaced]

>So with Jack, they only found 2-3 bits right? I guess they fused together and the rest regenerated? Stretching the healing stuff, but I really don?t mind.

Jack doesn’t “heal”. He’s a fixed point in time so he kind of “reverts” to that fixed point. Although that doesn’t make a lot of sense since he also says he noticed that he IS getting older, only very, very slowly.

I think that Jack may now have some serious mental issues. Perhaps claustrophobia? Or even agoraphobia?

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