USA fans Crap Treatmant

[Pecospete666]

To: Vogon Fleet Command:
From: Pecospete666 Enterprises
Subject: Shit treatment of American Fans!

Please install a Intergalactic Exit and Restroom at these coordinates
Latitude 51.412527 Longitude -0.476551

I expect to see many drunken Intergalactic travelers pissing on DN Sr & Jr cars

Grant Naylor Productions Ltd
Address:
Suite 950, Shepperton Studios, Studios Road
Postcode:
TW17 0QD
City/Town:
Shepperton (Surrey)
As per story below

http://www.tvshowsondvd.com/news/Red-Dwarf-Series-10/17622

I have to drink light beer now!
Not Happy

Topic

[Pecospete666]

With Population of 23mil vs USA 331 mil it doesn’t take a Einstein o figure that one out!
Even if 3/10 of a percent of USA watchs its till more than the UK! The USA averages 4 tvs per house hold.What do think Australia’s number is? This shit storm was 3 wk ago,is that how long it takes the internet to get down under?

[genericnerdyusername]

You’re a fucking prick.

[Pecospete666]

That was real adult conversation, what are you 12?
Did your mommy have to sign a permission slip for you to join the forum?
At lest Dave Put out some coherent thought!

[genericnerdyusername]

Says the one who replied to Dave’s post with “FUCK OFF”. You really are a tiny buffoon.

[Ian Symes]

I am amused by the phrase “it doesn’t take a Einstein”.

[srmcd1]

We could make a bumper sticker out of that.

[genericnerdyusername]

>You should get it along with ever body else! It ‘s just it was the US PBS are the ones that saved it back in 1979 you probley not even born then!

I still can’t fathom what the hell this means.

[Pecospete666]

You sound like some little girl that had her pig tails pulled?

Are you a girl?

This matter was settled by Doug the same day! Why are you trying to make something out of it? Are you TROLLING? Are you a little girl troll?

[genericnerdyusername]

That was real adult conversation, what are you 12?
Did your “mommy” have to sign a permission slip for you to join the forum?

[Phil]

>At lest Dave Put out some coherent thought!

“You’re a fucking prick” sounded pretty coherent to me.

[Ridley]

Dave foils murders.
Pecospete foils hats.
Everyone else loves Ned Flanders.

Wait…

[Seb Patrick]

>I am amused by the phrase “it doesn’t take a Einstein”.

Yeah, brilliant idea, Steinberg.

[Danny Stephenson]

This matter was settled by Doug the same day!

Yes, that was when you decided to badger a DVD distribution arm about TV broadcast releases. You sound like a whiny, stubborn, spoilt 10-year old who feels as though you’re somehow earned a fucking release because you happen to live in a massive country, like it’s your god-given right, and it isn’t. At all.

[Jo]

Where’s Mick when you need him?

[Ben Paddon]

Is there any particular reason, other than the fact that PecosPete is so preposterous so as to occasionally offer something akin to entertainment, that he hasn’t been shunted off of this site permanently yet? And if not *fist slam* WHY not?

[fozzibear1]

im wondering how PBS, which frankly is unlikely to be anything other than bonus money to GN productions saved a show 6 years before it was written personally. Especially when they are so desperate to get sounbytes from the cast for pledge week the question of who is carrying whom is still kind of open to debate. Either way who cares, it is not like anyone has been stopped from watching it. Given the current state of world economics perhaps the Australian government owned network was able to find the cash to stump up quicker. The GFC has still barely touched us as yet.

[Ian Symes]

Is there any particular reason, other than the fact that PecosPete is so preposterous so as to occasionally offer something akin to entertainment, that he hasn’t been shunted off of this site permanently yet? And if not *fist slam* WHY not?

Because we’ve never banned anyone in ten years, and he’s completely harmless. We don’t have any rules to break.

[Jonathan Capps]

We did ban a couple of accounts just before Lemons aired because they were spamming the Let’s Talk About thread with real spoilers, but that was exceptional circumstances.

[genericnerdyusername]

I find the most interesting comments Pecospete666 leaves are the ones that end in exclamation marks. I can’t get enough of them.

[Pecospete666]

Thank you Mr.Symes for being the “voice of reason” in the mobs calling for my head!

[genericnerdyusername]

Ben is not a mob.

[stubbleless]

Thank you Mr.Symes for being the “voice of reason” in the mobs calling for my head!

Nobody wants your head (that’s where all this bullshit is coming from).

[Ian Symes]

Ben is not a mob.

Close, though.

[Pecospete666]

Ah’ I have to pull this knife out of my back,from Benny the BLADE.There thats better,
GenericTrollGirl your not worth replying to! Are you Mentally Challenged?
Dave! I do worry about SHIT ROMNEY that maggot will start WWW3! I have already voted for the party of LIGHT by mail!

[Ian Symes]

Shush now.

[fozzibear1]

Why ban anyone anyway (and yeah i hget when peeps are deliberately spoiling there is no time for a long game strategy, and thus unusual responses apply), Ian seems to have a skill that a (now unfortunately long deceased) mate from usenet used to have, the ability to distinguish between annoying and trolling and then, when the genuine troll is identified, to make them pretty much kook out on cue.

Its what us usenet old codgers used to call troll baiting, lol

[fozzibear1]

oh pecos i’m gonna disagree directly on one thing, the charachterisation of ben stabbing you in the back is pretty illogical, he did it in a thread you started and you were clearly not yet finished with, there is no going behind your back involoved that I can see.

Dude if this had just ben a rant done for ironies sake i’d probably be completely on your side. I’m Australian myself and even I get sick of Aussies moaning about getting things last. Frankly if they see that as a major problem in the grand scheme of things then they need to start thinking about appreciating just how blessed their life is at that time.

[genericnerdyusername]

I am actually pretty mentally ill. Want to take the piss out of me some more?

[Ben Paddon]

I take it all back. PecosPete a really great guy, isn’t he? I don’t know what we’d do without him!

[peepingsignal]

I owe my life to him.

[NoFro]

Can’t believe it took 53 minutes for someone to make that joke.

[pfm]

I owe my life to him.

[pfm]

Grrrrrr!!!

In other news, much sympathy for the Yanks facing the effects of Sandy. Fucking awful. The Earth can be a bigger baby than certain forum members.

[anniescribe]

On behalf of the majority USA that isn’t all entitlement whorish: *SIGH*

Yeah, I want it to air here now, too. But unless it’s a USA-made show, we’re not entitled to it before anyone else. (Sure would be nice to get it at the *same time* as everybody else, though.)

(And yeah, we’ve got worse problems here than lack of Red Dwarf right now. I barely kept the car on the road driving home from work today in the high winds and rain – and I’m just on the edge of the Midwest inland after-effects of the storm. I still have power and can watch my old Dwarf DVDs and plug in my computer and log on to type here, which is more than I can say for several million poor souls east of me. )

[Blisschick]

Agreed, Annie. Instead of pissing and moaning about why I don’t have it, I’ve learned with a little patience and perseverance, I still get to watch it eventually. I don’t view the delay as unfair, but just something to be expected. Hell, it’s always been that way for us. Why would RDX be the exception to the rule?

[anniescribe]

Plus, I’m lucky enough to have a region-free DVD player. NOVEMBER UK RELEASE, HERE I COME! :-D

[Ben Paddon]

I’m lucky enough to have a Bluray player. So, yes. Result!

[fozzibear1]

One little tidbit I noticed while reading through recent updates on Robert Llewelyns site was an entry from the start of this year which mentions PBS will be broadcasting the series in terms which suggest he regarded that as a certainty.

So one possibility we may have overlooked here, to some extent, is that the deal may very well already be done and might have included clauses about announcement rights. i.e. Grant Naylor productions may have simply agreed to wait till PBS have officially announced it. I’m not saying thats definately what happened but merely suggesting it as a possibility

[fozzibear1]

Developing this thought, *IF* PBS may well hold the show and hence the announcement until the end of the current election is over so as to lessen the risk of the announcement being buried under breaking news stories

[Blisschick]

I would think that if PBS hasn’t announced it yet, they’re holding off until their next membership drive so they can offer the DVD as a perk for donating.

[HelloMabel]

Are the pledge drives coordinated, then? I thought each station scheduled their own, like with public radio. But if you’re right, that’s an uplifting thought. I’m saluting that one.

Dave, regarding Romney & Friends dismantling PBS, fortunately that’s something of an urban legend. The worst they can do is eliminate federal funding of it – but that’s only about 15% of total PBS funding.

[HelloMabel]

PS, glad to see that you all are ok. :)

[Blisschick]

Honestly, I don’t know if they are, I couldn’t find anything saying either way. I just know that there are a lot of complaints that the programming is crap lately for the amount of money they’re begging for. PBS is the alternative for those who can’t get BBCA (like me), but even then some people are complaining it’s not much better. *shrug*

[Phil]

*IF* PBS may well hold the show and hence the announcement until the end of the current election is over so as to lessen the risk of the announcement being buried under breaking news stories

Political news doesn’t really override entertainment news, even at the peak of the election cycle. They’re different topics covered by different outlets, and the election doesn’t make it any harder for people to learn about new releases from their favorite artists. (Nor does it dissuade anyone from making announcements about upcoming releases.) They’re not competing for the same audience. You won’t find DVD release information dominating cnn.com and you won’t find breaking election night results on billboard.com. They’re totally separate news cycles.

Outside of outlets already dedicated to this sort of thing, the public television syndication of the tenth series of a relatively niche import would never rate a mention on even the slowest of news days. It’s not a case of minimizing the “risk” of being buried. If you put it in the right places, the right people will find it, and that’s how it would be no matter what the geopolitical climate happened to be. I’d be genuinely shocked if the election had anything (or could have anything) to do with it.

[Pecospete666]

In my search for the elusive RDX broadcast in the USA I was told unofficially PBS spent their wad on Downton Abbey and could not afford to buy it this year! BBC America is the last hope!

[si]

Yeah, good luck with that. We can’t even get it shown on BBC Britain.

[JamesTC]

BBC America and Dave are both owned by BBC Worldwide.

[si]

You know that, and I know that, but you didn’t have to let every fucker know.

Meh. Details.

[basingstoker]

I can’t blame PBS for not picking it up, or doing it yet. I don’t think it will be a national show, but will probably be available, eventually, on regional PBS stations on a station-by-station basis. PBS, with looming threat of budget cuts, needs to prioritize. Downton Abbey has a ton of acclaim, huge ratings and a unique selling point. Plus, with ITV as a major backer, it can fulfill its Masterpiece Theatre obligations the wealthy donors associate with quality. Red Dwarf doesn’t fit in that category, sadly, and will probably fall into a regional pattern (my West Virginia PBS has a block of the classics).

If this was going to happen, the DVD wouldn’t be available before the airdate.

BBC America won’t run it because it isn’t such a good fit for them. Sure, they’ve got Doctor Who and run it endlessly, but the look of the series hasn’t dated it to be much of a problem. They scrapped older, classic comedies a long time ago. Even though Sci-Fi is big for the network, a show with a lot of backstory may not be as easy to pick up on (Doctor Who nowadays is written for every episode to be a jumping-on point).

I may be flamed for this, but Red Dwarf has been too irregular, at this point, to invest a lot of marketing money in and get a return on investment.

The sad thing is nothing could be worked out with Netflix, Hulu, etc – or some kind of an outlet that could show it (like The Thick Of It has here recently) which would deter the urge to watch it online before the DVD release.

[HelloMabel]

“Irregular” is a good euphemism and I don’t think you’ll get flamed for that one here. The question is to what extent your best-case scenario will pan out. How many stations will pick it up? The stalwarts, San Jose and Seattle, probably will, eventually. My local station, like yours, has a block of the classic comedies, and we have another independent, non-PBS station that shows more recent stuff like New Tricks and MI-5. But where in the past, these two stations have responded to my e-mails with a pleasant “thank you” and “we will consider your program request along with the million others we receive,” I’ve heard nothing yet from either of them.

On the other hand, Annie and Blisschick are right that these stations are very slow on the uptake and it would be in character for them to decide to broadcast Series X long after it’s no longer a hot topic in England.

BTW, what is Downton Abbey’s unique selling point? Pardon my ignorance, but I thought it was the same as Upstairs Downstairs’s unique selling point.

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