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  • #4143
    Jonathan Capps
    Keymaster

    A new Doctor Who thread, then, to avoid pagirritation.

    Link to the old thread: http://www.ganymede.tv/forum/2009/04/doctor-whoooooooooooo-hey-doctor-who

    #101326
    Seb Patrick
    Keymaster

    See, I was going to do one with some kind of joke involving Dr Martens boots / Doctor Who. Yours is better, though.

    I think this would be an appropriate point at which to lay down a spoiler policy, though. As far as I’m concerned, the lifeblood of this thread (when the show’s not running) is generally discussion of set pics and rumours and the like. So my attitude would be that anything that you see or hear online is fair game for discussion. As we get closer to broadcast (of either the Moffat series, or the Christmas specials) people are welcome to start threads that only discuss things that have actually been shown (similarly, if you want to start a Classic Who thread without discussing New Series spoilers, by all means go ahead) – but for the moment, I think the only people talking about Who are people who WANT to pore over all this stuff, so I say go for it.

    #101366
    si
    Participant

    The new Doctor’s got a new Sonic Screwdriver…

    And yes, it looks like a penis.

    #101369
    si
    Participant
    #101370
    Seb Patrick
    Keymaster

    WRONG TARDIS

    >The new Doctor?s got a new Sonic Screwdriver?

    JPGS PLS. Although I assume that’s it in the drawing?

    #101373
    littlesmegger
    Participant

    Don’t forget he’s used her future Sonic Screwdriver before, so this could be just another model he uses for one time only.

    #101374
    Jonathan Capps
    Keymaster

    Good picture. I never thought I’d say this, but Matt Smith’s freakish face is perfect.

    #101375
    EvoFan
    Participant

    The latest Who specials have been “meh” at best. Agreed, Matt Smith looks cool tho.

    #101376
    Jonathan Capps
    Keymaster

    The Next Doctor was brilliant but Planet of the Dead was utter, utter shit.

    THIS IS FACT.

    #101377
    Tarka Dal
    Participant

    Not even Michelle Ryan in tight leather pants could persuade Cappsy. That’s how bad it was.

    #101378
    TheLeen
    Participant

    I’m with Cappsy, again.

    #101379
    si
    Participant

    I read somewhere (I think it might have been DWM, actually) that as a ‘Normal’ episode of Doctor Who, it would have been fine, but as an ‘easter special’, it just wasn’t particularly ‘special’. I’d go with that.

    >PGS PLS. Although I assume that?s it in the drawing?

    No, in the photo in my earlier post, and here:

    #101381
    Tanya Jones
    Participant

    I think Amy Pond looks like Zoe, in keeping with the Troughton theme. This is good.

    #101383
    pfm
    Participant

    I love that pic. Redheads with red jumpers are good. And there’s just no way she isn’t thinking about what pleasure that thing could give her. The smile says it all…

    Also, who the hell has been attacking the Tardis with Cuprinol Garden Shades Barleywood??

    #101386
    si
    Participant

    “Dog Eat Doug”, March 26th*, 2009:

    (*Anniversary of first broadcast of ‘Rose’. Co-incidence?)

    Mind you, there’s always “Liberty Meadows”…

    #101396
    Seb Patrick
    Keymaster

    Ah, Liberty Meadows. I remember being very excited when I first found that reference. There’s an Ace reference somewhere too, but I think it’s in one of the books I got out of the library once rather than one of the issues I’ve got.

    Ah well, let’s just have this one instead :

    #101398
    J_Spaced
    Participant

    Yay! Liberty Meadows! Frank Cho, we need closure! Even after all these years.

    I picked up a rumour from a comic shop person that he was coming back to Liberty Meadows but in a different format. Not sure what that might mean though.

    I’ve missed the gang. (Goes to dig out his collection.)

    #101402
    Seb Patrick
    Keymaster

    I’ve heard that #38 is being worked on, and should be out at some point in the next year or so. I’m not holding out much hope, though.

    Apparently, though, the current storyline is actually behind the “wrap up” that he did with the Wedding Album, when the newspaper strips finished waaay back in 2001/02 (which is actually when I got into it, when the Image book started). So the Frank/Brandy story has already been resolved, all this time, and I never knew it! Totally having to track down a copy of that, now…

    #101404
    si
    Participant

    Anyway, back to Doctor Who, what with this being a Doctor Who thread and all…

    This looks interesting, in a potentially spoileriffic way…

    http://bit.ly/8yjYJ

    #101413
    ChrisM
    Participant

    Considering the returning character in the new series and the fact that she refers to the Doctor being I good deal younger is in the Tennant incarnation, I wonder how much time will have passed from the Doctor’s point of view. I.e. will there be a chunk of backstory where the Doctor travels alone like between the Gann and Ecclestone versions?

    Just speculating like.

    #101414
    Seb Patrick
    Keymaster

    I’ve still got this crazy little theory that we may not get a full-on, “proper” regeneration at the end of the specials, and we’ll meet Eleven “afresh”. Or, yeah, we’ll get a regeneration where we get a few moments of him, and then at the start of series five (YES IT IS SERIES 5 I DON’T CARE WHAT THE MOFF SAYS) he’s been travelling on his own for a while already without our having seen it.

    #101416
    Jonathan Capps
    Keymaster

    I like the idea, but there’s no way in hell RTD will forgo a full-on, traditional, ushering in a new Doctor style regeneration. Still, that doesn’t mean we can’t still have a gap between the events of the Christmas Special and 5.1.

    #101423
    Phil1034
    Participant

    > there?s no way in hell RTD will forgo a full-on, traditional, ushering in a new Doctor style regeneration.

    Erm…
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/8062511.stm
    “Or do you see it” at 3.35.

    #101425
    pfm
    Participant

    You can’t take RTD’s teasing comments as meaning anything. It’s just gonna be different from the Eccleston-Tennant one is all. What I would love is a real sting in the last scene where you think it’s Tennant walking along, someone shouts ‘Doctor’ to him, he turns and lo and behold it’s Matt Smith.

    #101428
    Somebody
    Participant

    Seb Patrick:
    I?ve heard that #38 is being worked on, and should be out at some point in the next year or so. I?m not holding out much hope, though.

    Faint hope. He’s working on New Ultimates with Jeph Loeb.

    Abandon all hope…

    Seb Patrick:
    Apparently, though, the current storyline is actually behind the ?wrap up? that he did with the Wedding Album, when the newspaper strips finished waaay back in 2001/02 (which is actually when I got into it, when the Image book started). So the Frank/Brandy story has already been resolved, all this time, and I never knew it! Totally having to track down a copy of that, now?

    I’ve read the Wedding Album. It’s mostly a montage rather than a story (and he changed the look of Brandy’s dad for his appearance in the comic. In the WA, he looked like Superman).

    He’s said that he intended to do things a bit differently in the comic, but the odds on us ever seeing that seem like a million-to-one at this point…

    #101437
    Tarka Dal
    Participant

    Get yee own thread you non-Who speaking heathens.

    #101440
    Seb Patrick
    Keymaster

    Sod off, you. Anyway, you’d like Liberty Meadows. It’s very, very funny, and it has breasts in it.

    #101443
    Tarka Dal
    Participant

    I’m more of a leg man really.

    #101444
    si
    Participant

    I only came across that strip whilst on gocomics, where I get my daily Pooch Cafe boost, looking for any strips tagged with ‘Red Dwarf’, after finding four strips tagged with ‘Doctor Who’. Before that, I’d never heard of it.

    #101462
    JamesTC
    Participant

    The new opening titles, sounds good, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1yW8FrrXAA

    #101494
    JamesTC
    Participant

    DWM comes with a free 90 minute companion chronicle with Jo Grant, it is a very good story, highly reccomend it for the ?4 for the mag, plus you know, the magazine is good too.

    #101497
    si
    Participant

    Not listened to it yet, but the interview with Mad Old Uncle Tom is outstanding.

    #101539
    Andrew
    Participant

    ‘Euros Lynn said he showed the regeneration scene (where Tennant’s Doctor “dies” and turns into Matt Smith) to composer Murray Gold, who bawled like a baby.’

    http://io9.com/5322961/david-tennant-tells-us-why-his-doctors-so-sorry-and-whats-to-come

    #101544
    si
    Participant

    Everyone! Go to the panel dressed as the Tenth Doctor!!

    #101547
    si
    Participant
    #101550
    Phil1034
    Participant
    #101552
    si
    Participant

    Christmas trailer:

    http://bit.ly/PvCjX

    Poor quality, I know, but at least there are subtitles.

    (And it’s got Timothy Dalton narrating – not that you can tell in this clip…)

    #101553
    Jonathan Capps
    Keymaster

    Man, that looks good. I can’t describe how happy I am that John Simm is back as The Master.

    #101554
    Pete Part Three
    Participant

    I hope they make The Master sinister and nasty rather than a camp Rogue Traders fan. John Simm has the potential to be awesome but I hated his last episodes.

    #101555
    JamesTC
    Participant

    Wilf being back more than makes up for the Simm Master being back. Plus Wilf becomes a proper companion, travels in the TARDIS!

    #101556
    Andrew
    Participant

    I really don’t like the big, shiny captions they’ve been using for the last few promos.

    But I’m besotted with the ‘fixed in time’ concept – it’s one of the many reasons Fires of Pompeii remains a favourite – and I’ve been wanting to see it explored with an event that wasn’t part of current Earth history. So hurrah for Waters of Mars!

    #101557
    Jonathan Capps
    Keymaster

    > I hope they make The Master sinister and nasty rather than a camp Rogue Traders fan. John Simm has the potential to be awesome but I hated his last episodes.

    Oh, blah blah blah blah. John Simm was ace as The Master.

    > But I?m besotted with the ?fixed in time? concept – it?s one of the many reasons Fires of Pompeii remains a favourite – and I?ve been wanting to see it explored with an event that wasn?t part of current Earth history. So hurrah for Waters of Mars!

    Yeah, the concept got a *lot* of flak at the time, but I never really minded it. It seemed like a good stab (if a little underexplained) at explaining the Doctor’s actions in the episode, so as you say this is going to be a welcome exploration of the idea. Although it’s always dangerous territory when the actual logic of Doctor Who’s time travel is attempted to be clarified, because by it’s very nature it’s always been a bit of an unexplainable clusterfuck.

    #101559
    JamesTC
    Participant

    I got Series 3 today, that is all.

    #101560
    Seb Patrick
    Keymaster

    >John Simm has the potential to be awesome but I hated his last episodes.

    I still think The Sound of Drums is wonderful. It’s only Last of the Time Lords that lets the second half of series three down, and even then, it’s not because of Simm.

    #101562
    JamesTC
    Participant

    I though ‘The Sound of Drums’ was ok, ‘Utopia’ was just bloody amazing though. As for ‘Last of the Time Lords’ well atleast it wasn’t as bad as ‘Time and the Rani’ and ‘The Twin Dilemma’, I’d put it on par with ‘Power of the Kroll’ at how much I don’t like it.

    #101563
    pfm
    Participant

    Last Of The Time Lords is easily the worst finale of the 4 so far. That was RTD officially out of control. Maybe it could have been saved with the extra running time, like Journey’s End, perhaps some more time with the Doctor being the Doctor instead of Dobby the time elf. But nothing excuses him floating across the room, NOTHING.

    #101564
    Jonathan Capps
    Keymaster

    > But nothing excuses him floating across the room, NOTHING.

    I think I could have a good stab at it (the logic behind his rejuvination is solid, not matter how many people scream “DEUS EX MACHINA”) but I’m not sure I can even be bothered, because the episode really is quite meh.

    #101565
    JamesTC
    Participant

    >But nothing excuses him floating across the room, NOTHING.

    While the floating angel was just stupid it had a reason, the Masters worst fear is the Doctor towering over him like that, well second worst fear, death is first. My real problem is how he turned into the angel, everyone on earth thinking “Doctor” at the same time was just, hmm, I can’t even describe or compare it to anything, it was just naff, plus you know how did Martha tell everyone aroung the word in 300 odd days about the Doctor. Still I liked the cliffhanger at the end, shame about the actual episode that followed not including the wonderful ‘Time Crash’ of course.

    #101566
    Phil1034
    Participant

    > But nothing excuses him floating across the room, NOTHING.

    Well it made me cry (in a good way). What can I say I like my Time Lords how I like my Superman…messianic.

    #101567
    JamesTC
    Participant

    Watch ‘The War Games’, Time Lords are god-like in a good way in that one.

    #101572
    ChrisM
    Participant

    Those red eyes we see briefly. Are the squid heads returning? (I forget the name of the creatures. The aliens with external brains is what I’m referring too.) I know that red eyes and monsters isn’t a new thing, but the whole shape of the eyes reminded me of them.

    #101573
    si
    Participant

    Ood.

    And yes, I believe so.

    #101574
    JamesTC
    Participant

    Well since spoilers are ok, Ood Sigma will appear at the end of ‘The Waters of Mars’ and he has also been seen filming were Rose and her mother were filming with the Doctor on the floor in the snow, christmas 2005 I think it is.

    #101576
    ChrisM
    Participant

    This is great:

    #101581
    Seb Patrick
    Keymaster

    Oh, I saw those a while ago. Lovely idea, shame the songs are bloody gash.

    #101609
    JamesTC
    Participant

    I just had a go at Ian Levine on Gallifrey Base over him having a go at 2|E, does that make me a proper Doctor Who fan now?

    #101610
    Jonathan Capps
    Keymaster

    Isn’t that a bit like shooting a big stupid fish in a barrel?

    What was his complaint?

    #101613
    JamesTC
    Participant

    He was saying 2|E were crazy for releasing Dalek Wars after christmas, I reminded him that the date of after christmas is not confirmed yet and that going by the BBFC date of extras being put up to date of release seen in that past an october release is much more likely. He was basically having a go at 2|E for the sake of having a go.

    #101614
    Alex
    Participant

    He was basically having a go at 2|E for the sake of having a go.

    Nothing new there then…

    #101623
    pfm
    Participant

    After all the quality release no-one has any right to have a go at them. UNLESS they changed the frigging sleeve designs, the spine in particular. Then it truly would be the end of time.

    #101953
    JamesTC
    Participant

    Dalek Wars has a release date confirmed, October 5th with an RRP of ?34.99, I think Levine thought it was because of his ranting that it ot put back, it was actually put back after Torchwood had its release moved back.
    Not long till coloured Pertwee, can’t wait to see how it looks.

    #101963
    Seb Patrick
    Keymaster

    Colin’s not happy about that.

    #101661
    Ridley
    Participant

    Last Of The Time Lords is easily the worst finale of the 4 so far.

    I enjoyed it. Not the CGI Doctor and especially not the big reset button, but it’s my preferred finale.

    #102069
    redhead85
    Participant

    OMG the Master’s return in that trailer at Comic Con was made of win.

    I must admit that the latest series was my favourite so far. As much as I was disappointed to hear that Catherine Tate was going to be the new companion when the news first came out, I think she was fantastic. And the series finale was brilliant. I loved the way that the entire series built up ties throughout the episodes, interlinking everything together. Fantastic writing.

    #102082
    JamesTC
    Participant

    Wilf is going to be the new companion (wnderful idea), set reports show that Donna is still the way she was at the end of ‘Journeys End’ atleast at first.

    #102087
    pfm
    Participant

    I rewatched The Stolen Earth/Journey’s End this afternoon (as you do) and, whether it had anything to do with the fact that I had a slight hangover I don’t know, but I really didn’t enjoy 90% of it. I seem to remember it being better for some reason. I’m thinking I DO prefer Last of the Time Lords in some ways. The Sound of Drums is certainly the better first part.

    The inclusion of Torchwood and Sarah Jane is so wanky. When it cuts to SJ’s attic and she calls for Mr Smith, the line about ‘I wish you’d stop doing that fanfare’ and the reference to Maria being on holiday, all that should NOT be here in a Doctor Who episode that’s got to stand up on it’s own on DVD for years.

    I don’t have anything against Freema Agyeman (except my throbbing cock against her cheeks in my deepest REM sleep…sorry) but Martha should just…fuck off to be an all-action Blue Peter presenter or something! Ooh Daleks talking German, I wonder what ‘Exterminieren!’ means in English?? And the character, ‘German Woman’ as she is in the credits, it feels like we’re intruding on something that could have been a standalone episode in its own right. ALL of it feels like unecessary bollocks when you just want more of the Davros and Daleks story.

    The alt-Doctor – crap. Jackie and Mickey appearing out of nowhere to blast the Daleks (Jackie with a big gun??) – crap. Same with Jack appearing just after the Doctor gets blasted. Jack’s clothes being pristine even though he’s been put in a fucking incinerator, even if he did get out fast – crap. Sarah Jane and Mickey pushing and kicking Daleks around, complete with cheesy lines – crap. An entire Dalek empire wiped out with the flick of a couple of switches – crap. Rose and her ending up with the alt-Doctor – crap. The big slamming TO BE CONTINUED at the end of The Stolen Earth – utterly embarrassing.

    Of course there’s still plenty of good stuff like Catherine Tate (though she was short-changed somewhat due to RTD’s need to smear his own ejaculate all over the screen), Bernard Cribbins, the Doctor-Donna tieup, Julian Bleach as Davros, Murray Gold’s music, Harriet Jones, the idea that the human race is so fucked up it has bombs in place that will rip the entire planet apart, ‘the bees are disaPPEARING!’ the CGI shot of the Shadow Proclamation exterior (a brilliant visual slightly marred by the Tardis then arriving in a generic corridor, probably at the Millennium Stadium). Donna’s ending, though now it looks like that’s gonna change, but will she die?

    Journey’s End is an hour but it still feels like a rushed mess, or at least it did when I watched it today. I think bringing back the old characters probably worked as a cheap thrill but in retrospect it will always been seen as too much, you can count on that. It didn’t help that RTD sort of forgot who Rose and Martha were, they’re so out of character. He was bang on the money with Donna though. Ah who cares, Moffat’s series can’t get here quick enough, even though he’s only written 4 hours of watchable television in his ca…alright I know that’s bollocks, but his greatness as Who showrunner can NOT be assumed. Is all.

    #102099
    Ben Paddon
    Participant

    Martha wasn’t out of character. Her appearance early in series four coupled with her three episodes in Torchwood series two have shown that she sort-of grew into the role of the UNIT soldier, which seems a natural fit. She has, since the beginning of series three, always been presented as an ambitious young woman with her eye on the ball, and it would be silly for her to have lost that after she left the Doctor. On the contrary – her ambition grew to not just becoming a doctor of medicine herself, but to continuing to be involved with extra-terrestrial gubbins.

    Rose’s character seemed consistent as well, although Billie Piper’s performance did not.

    #102101
    JamesTC
    Participant

    I have to go and buy the Black Guardian Trilogy, well I don’t have to, I just want to.

    #102112
    redhead85
    Participant

    performingmonkey – A lengthy Dr Who finales review and only three wank/cock jokes. I don’t know whether I’m impressed or slightly disappointed with your restraint… :-)

    #102125
    JamesTC
    Participant

    ASDA didn’t have a Black Guardian in, grr, will have to go tomorrow for the ultra cheap set (around ?9 a story).

    #102134
    si
    Participant

    The first new Who DVD I’ve not bought in two years. I’m appalled at myself.

    #102137
    Danny Stephenson
    Keymaster

    And yet, i’ve bought no Doctor Who DVDs, and yet i feel slightly proud of this fact…

    #102142
    Ben Paddon
    Participant

    I find it ironic that so many of the Doctor Who fans who hated “The Stolen Earth”/”Journey’s End” still think “The Five Doctors” was the dog’s bollocks.

    #102144
    Jonathan Capps
    Keymaster

    Does *anyone* think The Five Doctors is the dog’s bollocks?

    #102146
    Ridley
    Participant

    The Raston Robot is.

    #102147
    JamesTC
    Participant

    I like ‘The Five Doctors’, it is by no means a classic but it is a good story.

    #102148
    Phil1034
    Participant

    >Does *anyone* think The Five Doctors is the dog?s bollocks?

    >The Raston Robot is.

    Paul Jericho’s delivery of “No, not the mind probe” is.

    #102151
    Dave
    Participant

    >Does *anyone* think The Five Doctors is the dog?s bollocks?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfRcpbj10So#t=9m49s

    #102153
    JamesTC
    Participant

    Watched the first 5 minutes, just up until Troughton and Courtney, worth the story alone just for the scenes with them, I especially love the giant UNIT sign out front, very top secret, oh and of course that legendary enemy, the terrible Zodin!!!
    I don’t know why I watched it on youtube, I could have stuck one of the 3 versions of it I have on DVD.
    I am glad Tom wasn’t involved, it would have felt too packed with him in aswell, I mean they already had to fit in so much, it is a shame that Robert Holmes didn’t write it, his idea sounded wonderful, ‘The Six Doctors’ was the name of Roberts version, he just felt he had too much to stick in so ended up writing the amazing ‘Caves of Androzani’ instead.

    #102166
    pfm
    Participant

    > performingmonkey – A lengthy Dr Who finales review and only three wank/cock jokes. I don?t know whether I?m impressed or slightly disappointed with your restraint? :-)

    I’m just an immature idiot is all. It probably is time for a slight tonal shift. Or perhaps an Emergency Temporal Shift.

    #102179
    si
    Participant

    I like The Five Doctors, but not a classic. The best ‘multi-Doctor’ story by a country mile is TimeCrash. Otherwise, it’s probably The Three Doctors.

    #102182
    JamesTC
    Participant

    ‘Timecrash’? Bah. it is hardly a story, a scene it is. It is a nice little scene but I don’t hold it anywhere near the other multi-Doctor stories.
    ‘Zagreus’ is probably the best multi-Doctor story although ‘Jubilee’ could be counted as a multi-Doctor story as that has two Sixth Doctors, if it could be counted as a multi-Doctor story then ‘Jubilee’ is the best one.
    ‘The Two Doctors’ was a lovely story, filled with dark humour and poor Sontaran costumes as well as a Sontaran leg. If anything it deserves the title of a classic just because it reunites Troughton and Hines, oh and because it has the Sixth Doctor trying to eat a cat, oh and Peri in a very small bikini.
    ‘The Three Doctors’ was a nice story, I mean you can’t go wrong with the cast, Pertwee, Troughton and Courtney all in a room together, while the plot is a little lacking it is really just device to get the Doctors together, this story also introduces the wonderful villain Omega who goes on to be in two further great stories (yes I do enjoy ‘Acr of Infinity’).

    #102185
    Alex
    Participant

    Wow, love for Zagreus? That’s rare. Don’t get me wrong, I actually quite enjoy it amd think theres a lot of good ideas in it, but there is a lot of hate for it about.

    #102187
    JamesTC
    Participant

    I just loved Paul McGann as the bad guy, and then Lalla Ward as the bad guy! It was very long, I would go so far as to say too long with the lead up story ‘Neverland’ on it too but it was still a brilliant story, so fun catching each refrence, oh and it had 4 out of my 5 favourite Doctor appear, 3,6,7 and 8, all that was missing was Troughton, saying that the Pertwee appearance was quite bad, you could hardly hear him or understand him, the audio on Devious was quite good on ‘The War Games’ DVD so I wonder why this was so poor on here.

    #102189
    Seb Patrick
    Keymaster

    ?Zagreus? is probably the best multi-Doctor story although ?Jubilee? could be counted as a multi-Doctor story as that has two Sixth Doctors, if it could be counted as a multi-Doctor story then ?Jubilee? is the best one.

    I’ve never seen either of those, what series were they in?

    #102193
    JamesTC
    Participant

    Season 23b and Season 26b or c or whatever. In short they were audios.

    #102198
    Alex
    Participant

    Well as I say I like Zagreus. It probably helps that it was the second Big Finish audio I heard after Master and despite not having a god grasp of what was going on at points (having not heard any of the Charlie arc before) I fond it a fun one with enough plot twists to keep it interesting and of course not going for the normal multi-doctor format. I think a lot of the dislike for it does indeed probably come from the wait in the lead up to it as the gap after Neverland was quite large. That said some of the plot points, especially those concerning the great vampires and rRassilon no doubt led to a bit more dislike for it in the same way The Deadly Assassin was originally criticised on much the same point of challenging the preconceptions of the shows history.

    And yes Jubilee is very good as well, always fun to hear Martin Jarvis hamming it up. For those unfamiliar it was used as the basis for ‘Dalek’ in 2005. To my mind, Big Finish has produced some of the finest Doctor Who stories written. Though I?m far from having listened to the whole catalogue with about 30-40 of the main range missing, here are some of my other favorites:

    Spare Parts
    Master
    Davros
    Project Twilight
    The Condemned
    Human Resources
    The One Doctor
    The Chimes Of Midnight
    The Kingmaker
    Red
    Medicinal Purposes
    And the whole of the ?I, Davros? and ?Galifrey? Series.

    #102199
    Seb Patrick
    Keymaster

    >In short they were audios.

    I know, I’m just taking the piss out of referring to audio stories in exactly the same context as TV stories, when due to the BBC’s own charter, they actually can’t ever be declared in any way canonical, and thus should be distinguished and kept separate when discussing TV stories.

    But you knew that ;-)

    #102200
    JamesTC
    Participant

    >I know, I?m just taking the piss out of referring to audio stories in exactly the same context as TV stories, when due to the BBC?s own charter, they actually can?t ever be declared in any way canonical, and thus should be distinguished and kept separate when discussing TV stories.

    BBC Worldwide announced in 1999 that the audios were canon, of course no Who was on TV at the time so it didn’t really matter.
    I talk of the audios in the same manner as the TV shows because really they are just as good if not better, the restrictions of the format bring out the best in the writers.

    >And yes Jubilee is very good as well, always fun to hear Martin Jarvis hamming it up.

    I’d go so far as to say it is the best audio, the best Dalek story too, only ‘The Tomb of the Cybermen’ is higher in my estimation than ‘Jubilee’.

    >For those unfamiliar it was used as the basis for ?Dalek? in 2005.

    Also RTD must have been a real fan of the story because he used “Jubilee” as the name of the pizza place in Torchwood, I think a pizza box with it on also appeared in ‘Dalek’.

    >Though I?m far from having listened to the whole catalogue with about 30-40 of the main range missing

    I think I have heard about 50 of them and i haven’t heard any rescent stories though I might sign up for a subscription to the Colin Baker line of stories coming soon, The Lost Stories.

    #102203
    Alex
    Participant

    The last year or two has seen a drastic improvement in the quality of the line. Definatlly worth trying the Sixth Doctor and Charlie stories. The idea of having her go and join up with a previous incarnation of the Doctor and trying to conceal this fact from him has made for a very good dymanic, and when this is put against the writting of Eddie Robson we ended up seeing 2 of the best audios in a long time; The Condemned and The Raincloud Man. Well worth a look.

    #102204
    JamesTC
    Participant

    The Paul McGann Season 2 that was broadcast on BBC7 a while back was quite poor, ‘Dead London’ was good though. I have heard that the quality started to drop in about 2006. Then again I have heard that the Charlie/Sixth Doctor story is very good too, I will eventually get round to them.

    #102205
    Alex
    Participant

    Paul’s seasons are a mixed bag, much more than the main line which personally I prefer.

    #102254
    JamesTC
    Participant

    Finally bought thhe Black Guardian trilogy, ‘Mawdryn Undead’ is a lovely little story, now it is onto ‘Terminus’.

    #102287
    JamesTC
    Participant

    Aparently the Sea Devils will be returning for the opening episode for Matt Smith, if this is true I may explode, love the Sea Devils.

    #102290
    Seb Patrick
    Keymaster

    Yeah, some nice stories floating around Gallifrey Base about possible plotlines. Two ideas that I like (both of which sound quite Moffatey) :

    1. At the beginning of episode one, a damaged TARDIS crashes in a young Amy’s garden. The Doctor gets out, apologises, says he’ll be back in a minute, and next shows up fifteen years later. A bit Girl In The Fireplace, so may not be true, but a nice way to meet the new companion.

    2. Episode two is essentially “Inside the Spaceship” mark two : the self-induced reconstruction of the TARDIS causes it to free some monsters the Doctor had locked up in it centuries before, and the entire thing is a scary “Blink”-esque adventure that never leaves the TARDIS.

    Could all be bollocks, of course, but still.

    #102291
    pfm
    Participant

    Episode 1 should be set in Edinburgh, early 1800s. Amy Pond’s brother (not father because we’ve had enough daddy issues) is being wrongly (or so Amy thinks) held in the Castle prisons. We see her and her friend (who’s her brother’s girlfriend/wife/whore) trying to break the prisoners out, which is where they bump into the Doctor, who’s posing as a guard.

    The Doctor confirms the rumours of prisoners disappearing one by one at the stroke of midnight. He has to quickly lock the girls in a cell before the other guards notice them. He promises he’ll be back for them before midnight. We stick with Amy’s pov and don’t see what the Doctor is up to, a little bit like in Rose.

    Amy hears midnight being tolled. At the stroke of twelve she turns around and her friend has disappeared, she screams then screams louder when a hand grips her shoulder ‘Sorry, I got held up. Literally…’ the Doctor says, rubbing his wrists with a quick grin. ‘Now,’ he continues, putting on a voice he obviously feels is full of concern, ‘listen, Red, everything’s going to be all right.’ He’s now dressed in his normal professor-like garb, complete with dickie bow. ‘Excuse me…?’ Amy says. ‘How can it be “all right”? Jean just…vanished!’ ‘Er, I’m the Doctor, that’s what I’m supposed to say to people. I think… To be honest, these days it’s pot luck what this (points to his mouth) comes out with.’ Suddenly he doubles over in real pain, a little ball of pulsating white light emerging from his mouth and spinning round his head before speeding through the bars to freedom. ‘Yep, everything’s gonna be all right,’ he says, dusting himself down. ‘Ooh, I’d better stop saying that. D’you know what, Red, I’ve totally HAD IT with catchphrases!’ Er, and so on.

    #102295
    JamesTC
    Participant

    I doubt from what she is wearing in filming that Amy is from the 1800s.

    #102316
    Pete Part Three
    Participant

    They shouldn’t do it in series 5 (with Karen who is rather lovely) but I think it would be a great idea if they made a big hoo-hah about a new (main) companion and then killed them off after four episodes in a standalone, non-event episode. It would be a great way of fucking with the audience and leaving them guessing.

    #102317
    JamesTC
    Participant

    Like that woman in ‘The Dalek Masterplan’ who didn’t really work out so they killed her half way through the story despite only being in one story before.

    #102319
    Seb Patrick
    Keymaster

    >I doubt from what she is wearing in filming that Amy is from the 1800s.

    … although of course what she wears after starting to travel to different time periods need not necessarily be what she’s wearing when she first meets the Doctor. Remember that the only ep that’s been seen filming so far very firmly isn’t the first one…

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