Doctor? I hardly even know her!

[Jonathan Capps]

A new Doctor Who thread, then, to avoid pagirritation.

Link to the old thread: http://www.ganymede.tv/forum/2009/04/doctor-whoooooooooooo-hey-doctor-who

Topic

[Seb Patrick]

See, I was going to do one with some kind of joke involving Dr Martens boots / Doctor Who. Yours is better, though.

I think this would be an appropriate point at which to lay down a spoiler policy, though. As far as I’m concerned, the lifeblood of this thread (when the show’s not running) is generally discussion of set pics and rumours and the like. So my attitude would be that anything that you see or hear online is fair game for discussion. As we get closer to broadcast (of either the Moffat series, or the Christmas specials) people are welcome to start threads that only discuss things that have actually been shown (similarly, if you want to start a Classic Who thread without discussing New Series spoilers, by all means go ahead) – but for the moment, I think the only people talking about Who are people who WANT to pore over all this stuff, so I say go for it.

[si]

The new Doctor’s got a new Sonic Screwdriver…

And yes, it looks like a penis.

[si]

Also:

http://i26.tinypic.com/4rxht0.jpg

[Seb Patrick]

WRONG TARDIS

>The new Doctor?s got a new Sonic Screwdriver?

JPGS PLS. Although I assume that’s it in the drawing?

[littlesmegger]

Don’t forget he’s used her future Sonic Screwdriver before, so this could be just another model he uses for one time only.

[Jonathan Capps]

Good picture. I never thought I’d say this, but Matt Smith’s freakish face is perfect.

[EvoFan]

The latest Who specials have been “meh” at best. Agreed, Matt Smith looks cool tho.

[Jonathan Capps]

The Next Doctor was brilliant but Planet of the Dead was utter, utter shit.

THIS IS FACT.

[Tarka Dal]

Not even Michelle Ryan in tight leather pants could persuade Cappsy. That’s how bad it was.

[TheLeen]

I’m with Cappsy, again.

[si]

I read somewhere (I think it might have been DWM, actually) that as a ‘Normal’ episode of Doctor Who, it would have been fine, but as an ‘easter special’, it just wasn’t particularly ‘special’. I’d go with that.

>PGS PLS. Although I assume that?s it in the drawing?

No, in the photo in my earlier post, and here:

[Tanya Jones]

I think Amy Pond looks like Zoe, in keeping with the Troughton theme. This is good.

[pfm]

I love that pic. Redheads with red jumpers are good. And there’s just no way she isn’t thinking about what pleasure that thing could give her. The smile says it all…

Also, who the hell has been attacking the Tardis with Cuprinol Garden Shades Barleywood??

[si]

“Dog Eat Doug”, March 26th*, 2009:

(*Anniversary of first broadcast of ‘Rose’. Co-incidence?)

Mind you, there’s always “Liberty Meadows”…

[Seb Patrick]

Ah, Liberty Meadows. I remember being very excited when I first found that reference. There’s an Ace reference somewhere too, but I think it’s in one of the books I got out of the library once rather than one of the issues I’ve got.

Ah well, let’s just have this one instead :

[J_Spaced]

Yay! Liberty Meadows! Frank Cho, we need closure! Even after all these years.

I picked up a rumour from a comic shop person that he was coming back to Liberty Meadows but in a different format. Not sure what that might mean though.

I’ve missed the gang. (Goes to dig out his collection.)

[Seb Patrick]

I’ve heard that #38 is being worked on, and should be out at some point in the next year or so. I’m not holding out much hope, though.

Apparently, though, the current storyline is actually behind the “wrap up” that he did with the Wedding Album, when the newspaper strips finished waaay back in 2001/02 (which is actually when I got into it, when the Image book started). So the Frank/Brandy story has already been resolved, all this time, and I never knew it! Totally having to track down a copy of that, now…

[si]

Anyway, back to Doctor Who, what with this being a Doctor Who thread and all…

This looks interesting, in a potentially spoileriffic way…

http://bit.ly/8yjYJ

[ChrisM]

Considering the returning character in the new series and the fact that she refers to the Doctor being I good deal younger is in the Tennant incarnation, I wonder how much time will have passed from the Doctor’s point of view. I.e. will there be a chunk of backstory where the Doctor travels alone like between the Gann and Ecclestone versions?

Just speculating like.

[Seb Patrick]

I’ve still got this crazy little theory that we may not get a full-on, “proper” regeneration at the end of the specials, and we’ll meet Eleven “afresh”. Or, yeah, we’ll get a regeneration where we get a few moments of him, and then at the start of series five (YES IT IS SERIES 5 I DON’T CARE WHAT THE MOFF SAYS) he’s been travelling on his own for a while already without our having seen it.

[Jonathan Capps]

I like the idea, but there’s no way in hell RTD will forgo a full-on, traditional, ushering in a new Doctor style regeneration. Still, that doesn’t mean we can’t still have a gap between the events of the Christmas Special and 5.1.

[Phil1034]

> there?s no way in hell RTD will forgo a full-on, traditional, ushering in a new Doctor style regeneration.

Erm…
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/8062511.stm
“Or do you see it” at 3.35.

[pfm]

You can’t take RTD’s teasing comments as meaning anything. It’s just gonna be different from the Eccleston-Tennant one is all. What I would love is a real sting in the last scene where you think it’s Tennant walking along, someone shouts ‘Doctor’ to him, he turns and lo and behold it’s Matt Smith.

[Somebody]

Seb Patrick:
I?ve heard that #38 is being worked on, and should be out at some point in the next year or so. I?m not holding out much hope, though.

Faint hope. He’s working on New Ultimates with Jeph Loeb.

Abandon all hope…

Seb Patrick:
Apparently, though, the current storyline is actually behind the ?wrap up? that he did with the Wedding Album, when the newspaper strips finished waaay back in 2001/02 (which is actually when I got into it, when the Image book started). So the Frank/Brandy story has already been resolved, all this time, and I never knew it! Totally having to track down a copy of that, now?

I’ve read the Wedding Album. It’s mostly a montage rather than a story (and he changed the look of Brandy’s dad for his appearance in the comic. In the WA, he looked like Superman).

He’s said that he intended to do things a bit differently in the comic, but the odds on us ever seeing that seem like a million-to-one at this point…

[Tarka Dal]

Get yee own thread you non-Who speaking heathens.

[Seb Patrick]

Sod off, you. Anyway, you’d like Liberty Meadows. It’s very, very funny, and it has breasts in it.

[Tarka Dal]

I’m more of a leg man really.

[si]

I only came across that strip whilst on gocomics, where I get my daily Pooch Cafe boost, looking for any strips tagged with ‘Red Dwarf’, after finding four strips tagged with ‘Doctor Who’. Before that, I’d never heard of it.

[JamesTC]

The new opening titles, sounds good, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1yW8FrrXAA

[JamesTC]

DWM comes with a free 90 minute companion chronicle with Jo Grant, it is a very good story, highly reccomend it for the ?4 for the mag, plus you know, the magazine is good too.

[si]

Not listened to it yet, but the interview with Mad Old Uncle Tom is outstanding.

[Andrew]

‘Euros Lynn said he showed the regeneration scene (where Tennant’s Doctor “dies” and turns into Matt Smith) to composer Murray Gold, who bawled like a baby.’

http://io9.com/5322961/david-tennant-tells-us-why-his-doctors-so-sorry-and-whats-to-come

[si]

Everyone! Go to the panel dressed as the Tenth Doctor!!

[si]

Good stuff.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/culture/tvandradioblog/2009/jul/26/doctorwho-comic-con

[Phil1034]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClNAiVhcIMA&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Ekasterborous%2Ecom%2Fnews%2Easp%3Fac%3D11%26id%3D2679&feature=player_embedded

New ‘Waters of Mars’ Trailer.

[si]

Christmas trailer:

http://bit.ly/PvCjX

Poor quality, I know, but at least there are subtitles.

(And it’s got Timothy Dalton narrating – not that you can tell in this clip…)

[Jonathan Capps]

Man, that looks good. I can’t describe how happy I am that John Simm is back as The Master.

[Pete Part Three]

I hope they make The Master sinister and nasty rather than a camp Rogue Traders fan. John Simm has the potential to be awesome but I hated his last episodes.

[JamesTC]

Wilf being back more than makes up for the Simm Master being back. Plus Wilf becomes a proper companion, travels in the TARDIS!

[Andrew]

I really don’t like the big, shiny captions they’ve been using for the last few promos.

But I’m besotted with the ‘fixed in time’ concept – it’s one of the many reasons Fires of Pompeii remains a favourite – and I’ve been wanting to see it explored with an event that wasn’t part of current Earth history. So hurrah for Waters of Mars!

[Jonathan Capps]

> I hope they make The Master sinister and nasty rather than a camp Rogue Traders fan. John Simm has the potential to be awesome but I hated his last episodes.

Oh, blah blah blah blah. John Simm was ace as The Master.

> But I?m besotted with the ?fixed in time? concept – it?s one of the many reasons Fires of Pompeii remains a favourite – and I?ve been wanting to see it explored with an event that wasn?t part of current Earth history. So hurrah for Waters of Mars!

Yeah, the concept got a *lot* of flak at the time, but I never really minded it. It seemed like a good stab (if a little underexplained) at explaining the Doctor’s actions in the episode, so as you say this is going to be a welcome exploration of the idea. Although it’s always dangerous territory when the actual logic of Doctor Who’s time travel is attempted to be clarified, because by it’s very nature it’s always been a bit of an unexplainable clusterfuck.

[JamesTC]

I got Series 3 today, that is all.

[Seb Patrick]

>John Simm has the potential to be awesome but I hated his last episodes.

I still think The Sound of Drums is wonderful. It’s only Last of the Time Lords that lets the second half of series three down, and even then, it’s not because of Simm.

[JamesTC]

I though ‘The Sound of Drums’ was ok, ‘Utopia’ was just bloody amazing though. As for ‘Last of the Time Lords’ well atleast it wasn’t as bad as ‘Time and the Rani’ and ‘The Twin Dilemma’, I’d put it on par with ‘Power of the Kroll’ at how much I don’t like it.

[pfm]

Last Of The Time Lords is easily the worst finale of the 4 so far. That was RTD officially out of control. Maybe it could have been saved with the extra running time, like Journey’s End, perhaps some more time with the Doctor being the Doctor instead of Dobby the time elf. But nothing excuses him floating across the room, NOTHING.

[Jonathan Capps]

> But nothing excuses him floating across the room, NOTHING.

I think I could have a good stab at it (the logic behind his rejuvination is solid, not matter how many people scream “DEUS EX MACHINA”) but I’m not sure I can even be bothered, because the episode really is quite meh.

[JamesTC]

>But nothing excuses him floating across the room, NOTHING.

While the floating angel was just stupid it had a reason, the Masters worst fear is the Doctor towering over him like that, well second worst fear, death is first. My real problem is how he turned into the angel, everyone on earth thinking “Doctor” at the same time was just, hmm, I can’t even describe or compare it to anything, it was just naff, plus you know how did Martha tell everyone aroung the word in 300 odd days about the Doctor. Still I liked the cliffhanger at the end, shame about the actual episode that followed not including the wonderful ‘Time Crash’ of course.

[Phil1034]

> But nothing excuses him floating across the room, NOTHING.

Well it made me cry (in a good way). What can I say I like my Time Lords how I like my Superman…messianic.

[JamesTC]

Watch ‘The War Games’, Time Lords are god-like in a good way in that one.

[ChrisM]

Those red eyes we see briefly. Are the squid heads returning? (I forget the name of the creatures. The aliens with external brains is what I’m referring too.) I know that red eyes and monsters isn’t a new thing, but the whole shape of the eyes reminded me of them.

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