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  • #11429
    Jonathan Capps
    Keymaster

    Speculate away, bitches!

    A few brief rules that have already been stated by someone else, but it’s worth clarifying:

    • Obviously the catch all spoiler policy applies here as much as anywhere else on the site.
    • Please don’t comment in this thread if you’ve seen any episode recorded, even if the general talk is about an episode you have not. Comments of that nature belong in the set report comment threads, as anything said here in conjunction with theories could give away more than intended.
    • Anyone spoiling the Iain Lee / Norman Lovett dance routine in episode 1 will be instantly banned.
    #113943
    Jake Bullet
    Participant

    Along with Ori_Studfarm, and a few other members here, we saw episode 3 being filmed (I think it was Ep 3). Of course I would not want to spoil it for anyone (I would not want anyone to spoil it for me either). All I am prepared to say is, it looks to be a good series, and the sets we saw looks great, as did the costumes. I am not likely to see any more episodes being filmed before release on TV, so I am prepared to wait and see what goes on.

    #113944
    Ian Symes
    Keymaster

    You know the bit just above your comment that says don’t post in here if you’ve seen an episode being recorded?

    #113945
    Jonathan Capps
    Keymaster

    Actually, I’ve slightly expanded the second rule. I think even if you’ve just seen one episode recorded it’s best not to speculate on any you haven’t, because you might know something that could apply to the series as a whole. I know you weren’t doing any speculating Jake, but best leave this thread ‘clean’ from this point on.

    Ok, every one else, BEGIN.

    In your own time.

    #113947
    Brayds2006
    Participant

    So since Doug mentioned on Twitter that Starbug will be in the series, (I’m guessing we’re allowed to mention stuff officially revealed like that? If not, call me a cunt and kick me out the window) will we see the inside of the Bug, or will we just see an exterior shot of it flying to its destination?

    #113948
    Ian Symes
    Keymaster

    (I’m guessing we’re allowed to mention stuff officially revealed like that? If not, call me a cunt and kick me out the window)

    No cunt, sir. No window.

    That is to say: anything from official sources is fair game.

    #113949
    Jake Bullet
    Participant

    Did not see that bit – still a little hungover from a party previously – from this point on, I shall not comment, sorry :-)

    #113950
    Kris Carter
    Participant

    Well, I’m off to see a recording soon, but I ain’t yet, so I\, a-commentin’ and a-speculatin’ here until then…

    The talk about episode 1 showing something to do with Rimmer that’s been referred to previously – any ideas? I honestly am stumped on it. Yvonne McGruder perhaps? I dunno.

    As far as Starbug goes – I wouldn’t be too surprised if we maybe see some sort of variant of the cockpit a la Series VIII, but nothing else – of course, saying that, the new stage is a lot bigger, and maybe they’ve got something cooked up… would be great to see the mid-section again (series VI/VII style).

    I’m very curious to see Kryten’s and Rimmer’s costumes – although it sounds like Rimmer is in his BTE tunic sans belt? I’ll see in two weeks anyways, but I’m jonesing for some official pics…

    #113951
    JamesTC
    Participant

    >The talk about episode 1 showing something to do with Rimmer that’s been referred to previously – any ideas?

    Rimmer’s brother Frank?

    It does seem odd that we haven’t heard anything about a Starbug set. Maybe it isn’t being built until the new year for the last 4 episodes.

    #113956
    NitroChrisUK
    Participant

    Not been to a Filming yet so i shall speculate away.

    i wonder if all these eps will be either Dwarf /Starbug or other ship set, seeing as they have a bigger stage. not heard any mention of Location shoots but i guess they would do everything possible to keep that quiet. perhaps that’s what they are doing during the week before Filming, or does that cut it a bit Fine? when was Location stuff done in comparison to the Audience shoot in Years past ?

    #113957
    redhead85
    Participant

    Rimmer and Lister get married with Kryten conducting the ceremony. They divorce by episode 5. Lister wins custody of the Cat.

    #113958
    pfm
    Participant

    > Rimmer and Lister get married with Kryten conducting the ceremony. They divorce by episode 5. Lister wins custody of the Cat.

    No real spoilers!!!! :P

    #113959
    Kris Carter
    Participant

    I reckon there’ll be location shoots, but not outdoorsy stuff, just using industrial spaces to show more of the ship(s).

    #113964
    Paul Muller
    Participant

    Just seen this thread – thanks guys!

    #113979
    Nick R
    Participant

    Seb wrote:

    Also, episode one is very categorically not a rehash of something else. The main plot centres on something that we have never before seen in Red Dwarf (although we have definitely seen/heard it REFERRED to on numerous occasions), and that we might have expected that we never would see.

    And I replied:

    Now that’s a blatant clue, innit!

    Now you’ve said that, I’ve now got a couple of theories about what it could be. One is something that was mentioned as one of Doug’s potential storyline ideas in the spoiler section of the last Dimension Jump Dwarfcast; the other is an activity.

    The activity I was thinking of was Zero Gee Football (or possibly kickboxing?). Certainly fits the description of something that’s been referred to many times but we never expected to see on-screen!

    Not that I really think it’s that, of course. I wonder what sort of budget would be required to convincingly put on-screen two whole sports teams floating around in zero gravity – perhaps Dave could shell out for the rotating corridor set from Inception? ;)

    #113980
    Paul Muller
    Participant

    “something that we have never before seen in Red Dwarf (although we have definitely seen/heard it REFERRED to on numerous occasions)”

    Chloe Annett’s foaming twat?

    #113981
    Tarka Dal
    Participant

    So, just checking. I’m effectively banned from this thread due to seeing episode one. Is that correct?

    #113982
    Tarka Dal
    Participant

    Sorry that “I” made it sound personal. I ask for clarification.

    #113986
    gem5ie
    Participant

    That’s how I understand it. I am banned too!

    #113989
    si
    Participant

    I’m going to speculate on everything so far in one massive post on January 19th. So that’s something for you to look forward to.

    #114010
    Phil
    Participant

    Seb wrote:

    Also, episode one is very categorically not a rehash of something else. The main plot centres on something that we have never before seen in Red Dwarf (although we have definitely seen/heard it REFERRED to on numerous occasions), and that we might have expected that we never would see.

    Somebody spins Kryten’s nipple nuts.

    #114011
    JamesTC
    Participant

    We never actually seen Archie, it is probably that.

    #114033
    NitroChrisUK
    Participant

    a tweet from @edmoore

    #reddwarf on location #fb twitpic.com/82z7ni

    #114038
    ori-STUDFARM
    Participant

    I know we’re not supposed to be commenting if we attended a filming, but God dammit!! I just gotta!!~
    ~

    Gotta point out that this image looks like it could be taken from the “muddy path” around back of Shepperton that all of us Red Dwarf fans were ushered in by…

    #114040
    pfm
    Participant

    Hey, it’s still a location!

    #114041
    ori-STUDFARM
    Participant

    Oh yes! Didn’t they film quite a bit of the older stuff around there too? (I want to say Terrorform….but my useless memory prevents me from calling this a fact)

    #114042
    Kris Carter
    Participant

    Most of Meltdown… Bits of Rimmerworld…

    #114043
    Mr-Stabby
    Participant

    God those cameras. I WANT!!

    #114048
    ori-STUDFARM
    Participant

    I know I’m still not supposed to be speculating, but I am anyways… :P

    TOS has just had news that this weeks audience is to use the main entrance and the multi-storey car park facility is available for use. This is due to the previous “back parking lot” being unavailable for this week….

    I wonder if those “location” shots are actually from the path we were using as the studio entrance…and they haven’t quite finished with it….maybe there is something there that the audience isn’t meant to see yet?

    #114061
    Tarka Dal
    Participant

    > maybe there is something there that the audience isn’t meant to see yet?

    Rimmer’s Arm?

    #114062
    KingRichard76
    Participant

    They’re using the back entrance because theres another show being Filmed at Shepperton tomorrow – right next door to Stage K.

    #114063
    JamesTC
    Participant

    Exclusive on location clip will appear on the Dave website at 5pm.

    #114064
    Jonathan Capps
    Keymaster

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZocoqxBaj78&feature=youtu.be&a

    Not terribly exciting, but this is the first time people will have seen the Cat’s new hairstyle. So… SPECULATE ABOUT THAT, IF YOU CAN.

    #114065
    ori-STUDFARM
    Participant

    I speculate that it is a wig…

    #114066
    Jonathan Capps
    Keymaster

    I speculate that this speculation thread hasn’t really turned out as expected.

    #114070
    redhead85
    Participant

    I…really don’t like the wig. The Cat’s wardrobe and mannerisms are over-the-top enough without the wig being ‘blinged up’ too. Meh, probably one of those things we’ll get used to!

    #114072
    Danny Stephenson
    Keymaster

    it looks like Kochanski’s hair in BTE. it’s got quite a 1930’s look to it.

    #114073
    Pete Part Three
    Participant

    And still not ginger?!

    #114076
    JamesTC
    Participant

    If you pause when it first comes onto Danny and Chris you can see quite a bit of Rob in the full Kryten outfit. Bigger shoulders.

    #114077
    si
    Participant

    So is that wig like that *all the time*? It’s not a one episode gag? Eek.

    #114078
    Phil
    Participant

    >I speculate that this speculation thread hasn’t really turned out as expected.

    I almost feel like I should be banned just for having requested it.

    #114079
    JamesTC
    Participant

    Exclusive new image to be revealed tomorrow!

    Also, follow Roopesh Parekh on twitter, he is the Marketing and Behind the Scenes Producer for the new series.

    #114080
    pfm
    Participant

    Even though it’s only the glimpsiest of (official) glimpses that hardly even looks like Bobby in the Kryten getup. It could be a stand-in or does the mask really look THAT different??

    Can someone tell me why they couldn’t just use the BtE mask (which was fine)?

    #114081
    Dax101
    Participant

    >Can someone tell me why they couldn’t just use the BtE mask (which was fine)?

    id guess its the same reason they didnt use the BTE bunkroom and costumes, and thats doug wanting to make the show fresh as possible and give it a new energy so people cant say the show is tired

    thats what im guessing of course

    #114082
    JamesTC
    Participant

    Doug said at the time they were doing the mask test with the BTE version (as shown in that video Dave put up), “Kryten mask test today. Learned a lot. Back to drawing board”. The BTE mask did look a little odd around the eyes, I thought. Though from that little glimpse it seems like the new mask is a little dark around the eyes. Still we should wait for a proper look until we start criticising.

    Also while searching for the above quote I found this funny tweet that I missed him originally post, it was in response to a person asking him if Duane Dibbley would be back, “I’m damned if I do and damned if I don’t.”

    #114084
    Ridley
    Participant

    Also, episode one is very categorically not a rehash of something else. The main plot centres on something that we have never before seen in Red Dwarf (although we have definitely seen/heard it REFERRED to on numerous occasions), and that we might have expected that we never would see.

    …Smeg?

    The JMC/Space Corps?

    More likely smeg.

    #114085
    Squeaky Gibson
    Participant

    Liking the new video, Cat’s new hair is very different, may be once we see it in full effect, with costume & danny’s performance it’ll become less noticeable. Given it’s only side shot but does Rimmer have the gel look going on? In the bunk room sessions of BtE they fluffed his hair up to give it more body like earlier series, but then later in you have first footage filmed on Corrie, which he has the gel/slicked look going on. I’m intrigued to think what new image will be, would imagine either another set image or may be promo shot image of Red Dwarf itself, with a tag line. Like they did with Skelton for VII. would be nice if it was cast shot, but is it still too soon?

    #114086
    si
    Participant

    Rimmer’s hair looks shorter in the Corrie scenes because they were shot first. His hair looks a little fuller in other shots because it’s grown a bit more. Simple but effective.

    #114102
    Tarka Dal
    Participant

    Hairwatch with Si Bromley, there.

    #114103
    Kris Carter
    Participant

    So three eps in so far, ep 3 at least seems to be off-ship, so it’s reasonable to assume Starbug is in it? Granted, it may just be a model-shot/CGI-shot of the craft leaving Red Dwarf, then landing on the new location, with no cast interiors.

    And on the ep 1 point of ‘something not seen/heard before, but referred to on numerous occasions’… I’m still drawing a total blank. Space Corps headquarters? The gazpacho soup incident? Like a freshly cut tree, I’m stumped.

    #114104
    Pete Part Three
    Participant

    If Michael McGruder DOES pop up, I’m going to start hitting things.

    #114105
    Phil
    Participant

    I think Pete’s on the right track with his episode 3 speculation in the set report thread.

    #114125
    pfm
    Participant

    > so it’s reasonable to assume Starbug is in it?

    Maybe they will put together a ‘bug cockpit set for the last week of production and shoot bits and bats for a few episodes? If not I would love the next series (fingers crossed) to be largely ‘bug-based.

    #114130
    Ben Paddon
    Participant

    I reckon the show will be set in space.

    #114132
    Kris Carter
    Participant

    That’s some bold thinking there.

    #114146
    Phil
    Participant

    Also, episode one is very categorically not a rehash of something else. The main plot centres on something that we have never before seen in Red Dwarf (although we have definitely seen/heard it REFERRED to on numerous occasions), and that we might have expected that we never would see.

    Dildonics

    #114165
    Paul Muller
    Participant

    Yeah, it’s weird that there’s been no interior stuff in Starbug yet. Could be that they’re waiting til afterwards to complete the set and film it seperately, but then surely that would defeat the point of trying to film it in front of an audience, and also, there’d be some gaping holes in the recordings that we’ve had so far.

    Perhaps there’ll be a bit in the second half of the series? Would be a bit disappointed if not – as the show kind of loses a bit of its dynamism if they’re stuck on board Red Dwarf the whole time.

    Plot-wise, I’m intrigued as to whether any of the stuff Doug mentioned at DJ, ie. Rimmer’s brother, upgrades to the ship etc, overarching plot, will make it into the final thing.

    I’m also looking forward to Norman Lovett’s rumoured bukkake scene in Episode 5.

    #114167
    NitroChrisUK
    Participant

    > it’s weird that there’s been no interior stuff in Starbug yet

    do we know that For Sure ?

    #114173
    clem
    Participant

    > I’m also looking forward to Norman Lovett’s rumoured bukkake scene in Episode 5.

    He won’t like the E numbers.

    #114174
    pfm
    Participant

    > Plot-wise, I’m intrigued as to whether any of the stuff Doug mentioned at DJ, ie. Rimmer’s brother, upgrades to the ship etc, overarching plot, will make it into the final thing.

    While I know nothing about the guest characters I think a relation of Rimmer’s appearing in episode 1 would be a good bet. The funny thing is, those who saw that episode recorded can neither confirm or deny that without breaking the spoiler policy, and that’s great because I want no concrete details whatsoever until broadcast (or a series trailer that completely blows it :P)

    #114244
    locusceruleus
    Participant

    >>> I’m also looking forward to Norman Lovett’s rumoured bukkake scene in Episode 5.

    >He won’t like the E numbers.

    I’m looking forward to the DVD commentary where he complains that the jizz is flying at him from an unflattering angle.

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