The Gallifrey Gals’ own thread

[Formica]

Kryten is debateable if anything “bad” happens.

They don’t get to have sex

[Unrumble]

Kryten is debateable if anything “bad” happens.

Kryten leaves for two minutes and everyone he ever cared about immediately dies.

Rimmer is humiliated by a sassy mechanoid, who he’d kindly rescued, who then ruins his bunk before giving him the finger. 

[Dave]

They don’t get to have sex

Until Polymorph. 

[Formica]

Lister go[es] down to a planet / moon and something bad happens

Thanks for the Memory, Backwards, Marooned, Justice, Meltdown, Terrorform, Quarantine, Back to Reality, Legion, Emohawk, Tikka to Ride, Epideme/Nanarchy, Cassandra, Lemons, Entangled, Twentica, Samsara, Timewave, The Promised Land.

Kryten is debateable if anything “bad” happens. Psirens is in an asteroid field. The bad stuff has mainly already happened by the time Lister gets to Rimmerworld.

Do you think nothing bad happened in Here No Evil?

[Formica]

Danny forgot to lean and it made the final cut!

[clem]

Are Stasis Leak and Marooned the only episodes where Lister does something with Rimmer’s books and Rimmer reproaches him for it – reading the diary, burning Biggles, Shakespeare etc? Other than that I’m definitely stumped now.

Here’s a new one: Terrorform and Skipper 

[Ian Symes]

Here’s a new one: Terrorform and Skipper 

The only episodes in which Rimmer’s life is threatened by three hooded figures.

[Flap Jack]

Rimmer stops being a hologram temporarily – and is in his own body – even though he hasn’t been resurrected.

[clem]

I think I’d have to give you those even though neither is what I’ve got on the card.

[Quinn: Clochebusters World Champion]

Rimmer stops being a hologram temporarily – and is in his own body – even though he hasn’t been resurrected.

Timeslides – not resurrected, retains his memories. Though would have to have been resurrected after the explosion

I’d argue he isn’t in his own body in Skipper. He is in other Rimmer bodies

[Flap Jack]

Timeslides – not resurrected, retains his memories. Though would have to have been resurrected after the explosion

I definitely count going back in time and making it so his death didn’t happen as being under the umbrella of resurrection. The point is that in the 2 episodes his death is not undone nor is he brought back to life.

I’d argue he isn’t in his own body in Skipper. He is in other Rimmer bodies

Ambiguous, because he stays a hologram in the first dimension he skips to despite “inhabiting” a Rimmer who would still be alive.

But Skipper and Terrorform still have the distinction of being times that Rimmer got to stop being a hologram, inhabit a body that at least resembled his own, and the hologram version of his body temporarily went away.

[Moonlight]

Here’s a new one: Terrorform and Skipper 

Ace Rimmer isn’t mentioned in either.

[Technopeasant]

 Ace Rimmer isn’t mentioned in either.

That’s true of 71 of them…

I almost forgot Blue…

To rejuvinate my reputation as a splitter, maybe this game needs a new thread?

[Technopeasant]

Are Stasis Leak and Marooned the only episodes where Lister does something with Rimmer’s books and Rimmer reproaches him for it – reading the diary, burning Biggles, Shakespeare etc?

Me Squared, though its the video he initially admonishes him for.

He admonishes Lister for reading in Lemons, but that isn’t Rimmer’s book.

[Technopeasant]

I almost forgot Blue…

And outright forgot Emohawk…

[Ben Saunders]

The Stasis Leak/Marooned link:

[Technopeasant]

Oooh, very topical.

[Quinn: Clochebusters World Champion]

[Dave]

[clem]

I actually fell for this at first. 

[Quinn: Clochebusters World Champion]

I actually fell for this at first. 

[Moonlight]

Lemons and Give & Take both feature Lister having organs extracted against his will.

[Flap Jack]

Legion?

I mean, I’m sure he wouldn’t have objected if he’d had the situation explained first, but he didn’t exactly give consent.

Although you could maybe make Legion and Give & Take the pair, because in Lemons the organ removal doesn’t occur during the plot of the episode itself.

[Flap Jack]

Oh, actually, you might have to include Epideme as well. Lister didn’t will for his right arm to be removed, only his left.

[Quinn: Clochebusters World Champion]

Lemons and Give & Take both feature Lister having organs extracted against his will.

In Give and Take it is Lister that opts to remove his organs. It’s just he doesn’t know he made that choice at the time of the removal 

[Spaceworm Jim]

Oh, actually, you might have to include Epideme as well. Lister didn’t will for his right arm to be removed, only his left.

I think the arm doesn’t technically count as an organ, sadly.

[Technopeasant]

In Bodyswap his mind is removed without his consent. Ditto Cat.

[Technopeasant]

I think the arm doesn’t technically count as an organ, sadly.

[Moonlight]

In Bodyswap his mind is removed without his consent. Ditto Cat.

Brain still remains, but Siliconia also has their minds removed without touching the brain.

[Technopeasant]

Legion?
I mean, I’m sure he wouldn’t have objected if he’d had the situation explained first, but he didn’t exactly give consent.

I just took first aid, that counts as consent.

[International Debris]

Lemons and Tikka to Ride, beyond the ‘they find themselves back on Earth’ link.

[Future Producer of Series IX – aaaaany day now]

They both feature the boys looking for food, meeting somebody famous and ending up disillusioned?

[Flap Jack]

I just took first aid, that counts as consent.

OK, fair.

I still think Lister’s right arm must contain at least one organ by some definition, though.

[Quinn: Clochebusters World Champion]

I just took first aid, that counts as consent.
OK, fair.
I still think Lister’s right arm must contain at least one organ by some definition, though.

Skin is an organ, but obviously not all his skin is removed 

[Dave]

[Ben Saunders]

Lemons and Tikka to Ride, beyond the ‘they find themselves back on Earth’ link.

Mistaken identity (Jesus isn’t Jesus, and it’s not chicken, it’s that man we found)

[clem]

Lemons and Tikka to Ride, beyond the ‘they find themselves back on Earth’ link.

Cat unwittingly commits cannibalism. 

[Quinn: Clochebusters World Champion]

Lemons and Tikka to Ride, beyond the ‘they find themselves back on Earth’ link.

Cat unwittingly commits cannibalism. 

If that isn’t it then it should be. 

[clem]

Come to think of it, I suppose it technically isn’t cannibalism on the Cat’s part seeing as he’s not homo sapiens himself. But they’re still the only two episodes where he eats human. 

[Technopeasant]

Come to think of it, I suppose it technically isn’t cannibalism on the Cat’s part seeing as he’s not homo sapiens himself. But they’re still the only two episodes where he eats human. 

[Dave]

Thanks for the Memory and Justice.

[tombow]

discussion of Rimmer’s bad luck in love?

[Flap Jack]

The game moved to its own thread on the same day that was posted. This was the answer to Thanks for the Memory / Justice:

https://www.ganymede.tv/forums/topic/things-exactly-2-episodes-have-in-common/#post-299598

[International Debris]

They loved XI. Even though they got through even the worst bits of the show without much quibble – Pete Pt 2 and BtE Pt 1 were the only episodes that seemed to go down particularly badly – there’s a definite “ah it’s back on form again now” vibe to recent episodes.

[Ian Symes]

I love how much they loved XI. While I remain lukewarm at best on Samsara and Can of Worms, their reaction has made me realise I was under-rating the series a little. The low points are tolerable compared to X and XII’s worst moments, while the rest is pretty damn solid.

I predict that Cured and Siliconia will get a similarly positive reaction from the Gals, and then…

[Moonlight]

I still think XI is my favorite series outside the bubble.

[Warbodog]

I go with XII for feeling like it finally crosses the line into being comparable and back on form in the whole second half, just ignoring the shit bits, as is the experienced survival habit for Red Dwarf fans.

[Dave]

I still think XI is my favorite series outside the bubble.

Ditto. It’s a solid series that feels the most like the show at its best, for me.

[Flap Jack]

Series XII just has 2 major things against it when compared to Series XI. If XII didn’t have Timewave and did have Snacky, it would be no contest.

[Moonlight]

I’m not sure Series XII ever quite recovered from airing the same exact six weeks as something truly awful was going on in my life.

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