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  • #2710
    Seb Patrick
    Keymaster

    That was… bloody lovely. Terrific stuff, and everything a Christmas special should be. The disappointment at yet another lack of a decent big villain reveal (like last year’s crappy one) when the nature of the “Cyber King” was announced was… well, it was pretty massively dispelled by what happened later.

    #87859
    Seb Patrick
    Keymaster

    Also, yes, I may have possibly done a little sex wee when we got pictures of all ten Doctors.

    #87860

    Me too! I’m not changing though, I’m just going to sit in it til Easter.

    #87862
    ChrisM
    Participant

    Brilliant! Possibly my favourite Christmas episode. Up there, any way.

    Is it sad I got a thrill with the big stomping steampunk cyberking at the end?

    I wasn’t sure of the Doctor’s use of the capsule at the end, since it hadn’t been used that way before, but I can think of an easy enough explanation, so that’s no biggee.

    And it’s great to have a Christmas episode not set in present day London/Cardiff.

    #87866
    Joey TORDFC
    Participant

    I fell asleep (true). Probably no reflection on the actual episode, more the big dinner and the fact I’m clearly turning into MY DAD. iPlayer it is, then.

    #87871
    Pete Part Three
    Participant

    A bit ropey, I thought. The Cyberman (who I’ve always thought were a bit lame) stuff was by-the-numbers. The other Doctor thing was nicely handled though; and David Morrissey was very good.

    The Christmas Invasion still gets my vote.

    #87872
    Jonathan Capps
    Keymaster

    I thought this was cracking. DM’s Doctor story was great, with a proper kick in the gut when it’s revealed he lost his wife in the attack. Also, I *loved* DM bursting the Doctor’s bubble when he starts rambling too much. A brilliant double act.

    The CyberKing was utterly preposterous, but I didn’t mind a bit as the episode really earnt that finale. Although, the inclusion of the orphans working on the ‘starter motor’ was a bit ropey. Surely a few Cybermen could’ve managed it?

    #87873
    Andrew
    Participant

    > I may have possibly done a little sex wee when we got pictures of all ten Doctors.

    And here was me thinking we’d never climax together…

    #87875
    ChrisM
    Participant

    The CyberKing was utterly preposterous, but I didn?t mind a bit as the episode really earnt that finale.

    I agree. It was daft, but in a thoroughly good way, and certainly earned.

    Although, the inclusion of the orphans working on the ?starter motor? was a bit ropey. Surely a few Cybermen could?ve managed it?

    I didn’t really get what the orphans were used for either. If they had been abducted in those huge numbers earlier on, then I’d accept it. The Cybermen aren’t the powerful force they used to be after all, so extra labor was required. Actually children had been abducted for a while, but they made a big thing about the latest influx, didnt they? They weren’t there that long before the Cyberking structure was completed, so I don’t think that plot point worked too well.

    That doesn’t take my love of the episode though. And it beat the ‘huge alien ship that’s a direct replica populated by aliens who look exactly human’ scenario of last year. (Although I didn’t hate it, and thought Kylie was pretty good in it.)

    I’ve come to realize, Who is full of plot holes, but it’s such good fun.

    > I may have possibly done a little sex wee when we got pictures of all ten Doctors.

    And here was me thinking we?d never climax together?

    That’s an image I could do without. ;} Dirty boys!

    #87876
    Seb Patrick
    Keymaster

    >I?ve come to realize, Who is full of plot holes, but it?s such good fun.

    Like a certain other programme we could all name, in fact.

    #87877
    si
    Participant

    I really enjoyed it, too. A really nice story, funny, and some great moments. (When they were skidding along on their arses! Hilarious!)

    Great stuff.

    #87878
    Rad
    Participant

    The human story was great, the Cybermen stuff not so good. I’ll give it 4/5 because even though there plot holes and logic flaws, it was still always exciting.

    Someone tell me this though – was it severing the link that caused the Cybermen to explode? If so, that’s piss poor.

    #87881
    TheLeen
    Participant

    >> I may have possibly done a little sex wee when we got pictures of all ten Doctors.

    > And here was me thinking we?d never climax together?

    And I would’ve joined in but I was 24 hours late.

    I loved it! The steampunk, the victorian era stuff, the details, the visuals (like the colours and light in the streets and on the graveyard), and yes, even the cybermen (that I don’t usually like so much), most of all their queen and cyberzilla. What I didn’t fancy was the cyberdogs in rugs. They confused the hell out of me. What were they good for? The rest was lovely.

    The cybermen storyline was good, but the “next Doctor” one was even better. I bloody loved everything about it.

    Did anyone else think that this christmas special was almost a satire of new Who, with mock versions of the Doctor and all his “assets”, including a cockney girl companion?

    Jackson Lake was good. Did whine a bit much. But still, such pleasure to watch.

    The sad thing is… I think tonight I have finally clicked with the Tenth Doctor. He was lovely.

    #87882
    pfm
    Participant

    Better than Voyage of the Damned but still stuffed with clumsy bollocks aplenty. Thankfully both Davids worked really well together so that saved it all from complete disaster. As nonsensical as it was, I liked how Tennant’s Doctor genuinely believed he had met a future incarnation and how pleased he was about it. So it was shame that the truth about Jackson Lake was so depressing. Everything hinging on the capsule was pretty weak. It should have felt like a reveal instead of *meh*.

    You can’t beat seeing all 10 Doctors though. Nice idea of having all the images in black and white (probably less effort required than colourising the Hartnell and Troughton footage). What puzzles me is why RTD has waited so long to do something like this. OK there were the drawings in Human Nature but this was actual footage.

    #87883
    ChrisM
    Participant

    >Someone tell me this though – was it severing the link that caused the Cybermen to explode? If so, that?s piss poor.

    Do you mean at the end?

    Not directly, I don’t think. The doctor severed the cybermen influence from the lady in red* (I’ve forgotten her name already… shame on me, she was great!) allowing her to see what she’d become. In her shock she lashed out at the Cybermen. I think she could do this as she was still linked to them or at least could still use the apparatus she was plugged into although she was no longer influenced by their ‘Cyberking’ agenda. (Albeit hers was always the controlling mind, they couldn’t control her completely, hence the changing code and the killing of the controller etc. But now the Doctor allowed her to step back further. I think that’s it.)

    *That was the bit I was referring to when I said I wasn’t sure of the Doctor’s use of the capsule at the end. Those things are supposed to upload information (to a fatal extent if you take away the ‘safety’) but this seemed to take it away. I presume the Doctor uploaded a code which caused the severance… which he could do intelligent chap as he is.

    #87885
    ChrisM
    Participant

    >What I didn?t fancy was the cyberdogs in rugs. They confused the hell out of me. What were they good for?

    Again, I think that was due to the Cybermen lack of power, tech and their low numbers in that age. It’s easier to partly convert animals (I think they were supposed to be converted dogs… they weren’t very believable as dogs.) than create full cybermen. They’re still a good deal tougher and faster than people, although not as powerful as full cybermen.

    Of course activating the Cyberking would change all that having a built in conversion factory.

    Sorry about the atrocious run-on sentences in the first post.

    #87887
    Seb Patrick
    Keymaster

    >And I would?ve joined in but I was 24 hours late.

    It’s never too late.

    #87893
    si
    Participant

    the lady in red* (I?ve forgotten her name already? shame on me, she was great!)

    Miss Hartigan. Alf’s missus.

    #87896
    Ridley
    Participant

    …I thought it was okay. More enjoyable than Kylie Minogue’s shenanigans but I’d have liked the whole “Next Doctor” thing to have been embraced more. I know he was supposed to be a Doctor with memory issues, but it seemed to me that after the initial meeting he just stopped having the presence of a possible replacement – that whole “I’m the Doctor! The one. The only…And the best! ;)” didn’t last very long – and had stopped being relevant by 30 minutes in.

    Rosita seemed to have faith that the guy was reliable, so it would have be nice to have seen it.

    #87900
    Dave
    Participant

    The Christmas Invasion>The Next Doctor>The Runaway Bride>Voyage Of The Damned

    >What I didn?t fancy was the cyberdogs in rugs. They confused the hell out of me. What were they good for?

    I was hoping for a big reveal of what was under the Cyber-rugs. RTD compared them to Cybermats in terms of their function.

    >Rosita seemed to have faith that the guy was reliable

    What a fucking terrible actress, though.

    #87903
    Pete Part Three
    Participant

    The Christmas Invasion>The Next Doctor >Voyage Of The Damned>The Runaway Bride

    Have yet to bother rewatching The Runaway Bride though. That may have more to do with shouty Tate than the story.

    I’ll watch TND at some point, I’m sure.

    It wasn’t as disappointing as The Royle Family (which was SHIT) or Wallace and Gromit (which was good but still a shadow of former glories).

    #87904
    Tarka Dal
    Participant

    > The Christmas Invasion>The Next Doctor>The Runaway Bride>Voyage Of The Damned

    This.

    Does anyone have any gossip about the specials? How many are we actually getting. Has it been confirmed yet?

    #87905
    Seb Patrick
    Keymaster

    It’s been confirmed long ago that there are four specials. The precise broadcast dates are anyone’s guess, though. The assumption is that they’re all going to be in 2009 (two at easter, one in the summer, one at Christmas), but I’ve seen something that suggests that two might be in 2009 and two in 2010. Not sure how up-to-date my information is, though.

    #87911
    Jonathan Capps
    Keymaster

    > The assumption is that they?re all going to be in 2009 (two at easter, one in the summer, one at Christmas), but I?ve seen something that suggests that two might be in 2009 and two in 2010. Not sure how up-to-date my information is, though.

    It’s been long confirmed that one special will be RTD/Roberts’s episode in Easter (Planet of the Dead, as we now know) a second special written by RTD/Pope broadcast whenever and then the last two as a two parter written solely by RTD. Going from his comments quoted by karl, I’ll assume that part one will be Christmas Day and the second part shortly afterwards (New Year’s day, maybe?), which will leave the RTD/Pope episode to be broadcast in Summer or Autumn.

    #87913
    Andrew
    Participant

    > New Year?s day, maybe?

    Is that considered a good slot? I was going to say no…but in fact it’s where the Beeb have put the new Jonathan Creek. So you may well be right.

    #87917
    Jonathan Capps
    Keymaster

    Also, the Sarah Jane pilot. Although there’s no telling whether they considered the show to be a big deal at the time or not.

    I dunno, I’m really struggling to work out what a good post-Christmas day slot would be and New Year’s day seems as good as any as you’ll have a huge amount of people in front of the TV, unable to move.

    #87919
    pfm
    Participant

    RTD said they’re not saying when the specials are to stop ITV from planning schedules too far ahead, but that sounds like bollocks. ITV will likely put something safe like Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire up against the Easter ’09 special.

    They COULD just be prolonging telling us that series 5 is gonna air autumn ’10 (with Merlin, if it gets a 3rd series, being moved to spring/summer ’11). So that would make the four specials – Easter ’09, Christmas ’09 and Easter ’10 (2-parter, last one ending with the regeneration).

    It probably will keep it’s usual slot though, so that could give us Easter ’09, Halloween ’09 (falls on a Saturday!) Christmas Day ’09, which ends on a huge cliffhanger being resolved on New Year’s Day ’10.

    #87922
    si
    Participant

    Mind you, the Sarah Jane pilot was shocking. It was a wonder it got a full season at all. At least they got rid of that black girl for the series.

    #87924
    Seb Patrick
    Keymaster

    That was so obviously set up for a Colin joke that I’m not going to make one.

    #87931
    Somebody
    Participant

    Teh Ellard:
    Is that considered a good slot? I was going to say no?but in fact it?s where the Beeb have put the new Jonathan Creek. So you may well be right.

    Vicar of Dibley was the fifth-highest rated show of 2007 with 13.08m, having gone out on New Year’s Day (Eastenders, the Rugby World Cup, Coronation St and Doctor Who were the only shows above it. It also beat the Xmas Day episode of the same show a week earlier, which got 12.39m)

    #87934
    Dave
    Participant

    >Does anyone have any gossip about the specials?

    David Tennant’s last episode is called Flambatchscuddle

    #87944
    Ben Paddon
    Participant

    David Tennant is going to regenerate in the last ’09 special. YOU HEARD IT HERE FIRST!

    #87907
    Tarka Dal
    Participant

    Not long after typing the above question I found RTD’s feature on the Xmas special in the Radio Times.

    (About Tennant)

    “He’s got four more specials to film, starting in January. We’re already rebooting the computers and fuellng the engines, ready to hit the road.

    The first adventure, to be shown in only a few months’ time promises to be the Doctor’s wildest, maddest yet. He won’t just be travelling without a companion, but without the Tardis, too.”

    He then goes on:

    “…you’ll still have David at the helm of the Tardis this time next year. But oh what a Christmas that’s going to be. Let’s just say that dark forces are gathering already. The Gate is waiting, and life will never be the same again.”

    So IF we believe all that. A new special approx. Easter-time. The Doctor without the Tardis and the 2009 Xmas special will be another RTD effort.

    Oh and “The Gate”? He’s put a capital on gate there so presumably it’s significant. Any ideas folk?

    #87955
    Somebody
    Participant

    The Pearly Gate(s) leap instantly to mind.

    #87956
    Andrew
    Participant

    I prefer to think of the Tannhauser Gate.

    But since Davies was on the Next Doctor commentary wondering if the name Hartigan ever appeared anywhere before (hello Sin City) after already admitting to never seeing City of Lost Children (“But it must be a bit like this”) I’m gonna assume it’s an unlikely reference…

    #88059
    Andrew
    Participant

    ?The name of the actor who will replace David Tennant as Doctor Who will be announced on Saturday.”

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7807742.stm

    Anyone NOT expecting it to be Paterson Joseph?

    #88060
    Jonathan Capps
    Keymaster

    > Anyone NOT expecting it to be Paterson Joseph?

    He’s still the most likely in my eyes, but the rumours about his casting seem like ages ago now. Plus some posters on OG spilled the beans on this special a couple of days ago, and rumours about Chitewel Ejiofor turned up very recently on those forums from the same rumour mills.

    Either way, this is a fantastic way to reveal 11 to us. I’m bristling!

    #88062
    TheLeen
    Participant

    Tomorrow? Yay! I’m nervous though! Too soon! But then, I also want to know. But maybe it would be nicer to not know until the day I actually see it for myself? But that would be impossible with the internet and all.

    Help! I’m afraid of change!

    #88063
    Jonathan Capps
    Keymaster

    It is a little too soon but it seems the sensible thing to do as there’s no way in a million years they can keep this secret for much longer. In the absence of the possibility to reveal the new Doctor on Regeneration Day, this seems like the best way to get a lovely big TV event out of it all without the stress of keeping it quiet.

    #88064
    TheLeen
    Participant

    > In the absence of the possibility to reveal the new Doctor on Regeneration Day,

    That is such a shame. They should shoot five different versions. :P

    #88065
    Jonathan Capps
    Keymaster

    > That is such a shame. They should shoot five different versions. :P

    I Eccleston to Tennant was the closest they’d ever get to managing it. If Eccleston leaving hadn’t been leaked then the BBC wouldn’t have been forced to announce Tennant and it would’ve been the greatest moment in TV history.

    A sudden thought: The Sun or someone similar are going to have a leaked confirmation of who it is tomorrow, aren’t they?

    #88066
    JamesTC
    Participant

    The Sun? Would you trust them? Total rubbish, It said Morrisey was the next Doctor. It said Tennant was regenerating at the end of series 4. It said Tennant was regenerating at the middle of series 3. Oh and lets not forget “The Truth”.

    #88071
    si
    Participant

    Didn’t see all this before starting a se[arate thread. Whatever, I’m not moving it.

    #88074
    Jonathan Capps
    Keymaster

    > The Sun? Would you trust them?

    They’ve had plenty right, as well. Namely Cybermen vs. The Daleks and details of the series 4 finale.

    But that’s irrelevant, as if they report the new Doctor tomorrow you can guarantee it’ll be a leak and that they’ll be correct.

    #88075
    pfm
    Participant

    > The Sun or someone similar are going to have a leaked confirmation of who it is tomorrow, aren?t they?

    They do enjoy scuppering almost every BBC Who announcement.

    I think it will be Paterson Joseph, which is great, it’s brilliant in fact, but I don’t understand why they have to tell us so early. They won’t be shooting the regeneration for months so what’s the big deal? I would be really saddened if the truth was that they were scared of people’s reactions to a black Doctor and they want the extra time for people to ‘get over’ it. I firmly believe they have already been testing the waters by putting his name out there so prominently.

    #88077
    Jonathan Capps
    Keymaster

    It’s got to be next to impossible to keep the casting a secret for much longer, though. When Tennant was cast no one even knew Eccleston was leaving, but ever since October people have been desperate to know 11 is going to be. It makes sense to get the announcement out of the way.

    #88080
    JamesTC
    Participant

    Even if The Sun is right sometimes have they ever explained why they have been wrong or apologised.

    #88081
    Tarka Dal
    Participant

    It’s Dexter Fletcher folks.

    #88082
    Jonathan Capps
    Keymaster

    > Even if The Sun is right sometimes have they ever explained why they have been wrong or apologised.

    If they ever did that there’d be no room for breasts and casual racism.

    #88083
    Andrew
    Participant

    > Even if The Sun is right sometimes have they ever explained why they have been wrong or apologised.

    Over a Doctor Who story? “The Sun would like to issue an unreserved apology to anyone who read our ‘Harriet Jones becomes a Dalek’ story for any offence of inconvenience caused'”?! Come on.

    They’ve got some pretty good ins with the production and have – perhaps sadly – been right much more often than they’ve been wrong.

    #88084
    Jonathan Capps
    Keymaster

    > It?s Dexter Fletcher folks.

    Don’t scare me, man!

    #88085
    si
    Participant

    I don’t want Paterson Joseph. :-(

    #88086
    JamesTC
    Participant

    >They?ve got some pretty good ins with the production and have – perhaps sadly –
    >been right much more often than they?ve been wrong.
    But they should never be wrong, they ae meant to be supplying infomation, if that infomation is wrong then what are people paying for, maybe they need an apology page.
    Besides why do they need to talk about Who, why can’t they print actual news which doesn’t involve TV or breasts.

    #88087
    Jonathan Capps
    Keymaster

    I’m going a bit mad posting everything I hear, as i hear it, everywhere but this:

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/organgrinder/2009/jan/02/new-doctor-who

    … is interesting.

    “it is not someone you will have heard of”

    #88089
    Andrew
    Participant

    > But they should never be wrong, they ae meant to be supplying infomation, if that infomation is wrong then what are people paying for, maybe they need an apology page.

    Yes, newspapers should never be wrong. Old people should be looked after, neighbours should keep their music down and people should only post online if they have something wise to impart. But in the meantime, I’m gonna go out on a limb here and say that there are bigger problems in modern tabloid journalism than stories about the new Doctor Who based on misinterpreted releases.

    G&T will, I’m sure, be picking up all sorts of rumours during the new Dwarf production. Knowing these guys, it’ll be safely couched as ‘this might suggest’ phrasing, but they don’t have profits to go after. When a source who’s been right most of the time brings you another good story, you run it. Being ‘mostly right’ will have to do for now. After all, whose life is seriously, detrimentally affected by a duff Who rumour?

    > Besides why do they need to talk about Who, why can?t they print actual news which doesn?t involve TV or breasts.

    Newspapers are a business.

    #88090
    JamesTC
    Participant

    Newspapers are desperate, they are quickly becoming obsolete.

    #88097
    Tarka Dal
    Participant

    I still want it to be Chitewel Ejiofor and failing that Paterson Joseph. If neither of those I think I could well be dissapointed.

    I suppose it’s best that we find out now as it’ll all be done and dusted and all the focus can shift back on to Tennant’s depature.

    There was an interesting bit from RTD the other day proclaiming that no one seemed to be discussing who the next companion was going to be and that although ‘Planet of the Dead’ didn’t feature one, the remaining three episodes would do. Could all be bollocks of course, but it is interesting. After all with the showrunner, the production team AND of course The Doctor changing over between 4.18 and 5.1 any new companion would be the one consistent.

    Does anyone know if Murray Gold is staying on for Series Five?

    #88100
    JamesTC
    Participant

    RTD has changed his tune, in DWM he said the last special had an old companion and ‘Planet of the Dead’ would have a young companion, I think it was DWM 402.

    #88101
    Jonathan Capps
    Keymaster

    > Does anyone know if Murray Gold is staying on for Series Five?

    I remember an old DWM interview where he said he’d leave with RTD and co. It remains to be seen whether he’ll make good on his word. I’d certainly like to see someone else give the music a go, as good Murray can be.

    #88103
    Tarka Dal
    Participant

    Oh Capps stop being right! I got all loved up on Murray Gold’s scores during The Prom yesterday, but of course someone else could be just as good, if not better.

    #88105
    Jonathan Capps
    Keymaster

    I’ve heard how fantastic that Prom show was, actually, so I’m looking forward to watching it.

    I just think Murray would be leaving while he was ahead, as he’s written some amazing themes over the years, and I’d see some of the staler tendencies starting to take over more with time.

    #88107
    JamesTC
    Participant

    All I want in terms of music for series 5 is a change in theme, I liked it in 2005, once it reached ‘Voyage of the Damned’ they ruined it.

    #88108
    Jonathan Capps
    Keymaster

    Well, if Murray goes we’ll definitely get a new arrangement. That’s arguably as exciting as having a new Doctor and head writer!

    #88124
    Tarka Dal
    Participant

    I *really* want a new Tardis interior.

    Although I’m not sure when they would bring this in. Either it’d have to during Tennant’s final adventures – in which case it wouldn’t be the 11th Doctor’s console room OR at the very start of Series 5. In which case it would be likely some time had elapsed between regeneration and 5.1

    Actually I wonder if we will see ’11’ at the end of RTD’s reign or will we not see ’11’ until the opening moments of 5.1?

    #88125
    JamesTC
    Participant

    If they have casted the actor already I think its safe to say he will appear at the end of 4.18.

    #88140
    Seb Patrick
    Keymaster

    The fact that shops were getting rid of their last remaining console room playsets for ?15 a pop earlier this year suggests that we will get a new one under Moffat.

    Or… ooh! Hasn’t RTD said that (at least) one of the specials will feature the Doctor travelling without the TARDIS? So maybe something happens to it, and that’s where we get a new console…

    I hope so, though. The current one was great for the time, and a necessary bit of reinvention (they did so much right with it, such as what they did with the doors, and making it actually feel like the thing was being piloted), but I’d like something new. And preferably a bit lighter and whiter – like the current room looked in that weird early promo shot that I Probably Couldn’t Find If I Looked but which made it look more like the old one.

    #88141
    Andrew
    Participant

    > The fact that shops were getting rid of their last remaining console room playsets for ?15 a pop earlier this year suggests that we will get a new one under Moffat.

    In another 18 months’ time, though. I don’t buy that as the reason. Surely it’s just they’ve been out forever and prices eventually have to come down.

    #88142
    JamesTC
    Participant

    I saw a broken cassandra the other day in Woolworths for a pound after the money was taken off, I didn’t buy one, ?1 is too much, nobody was buying any, it was the only figure that was on the shelf, they had about twenty of them.

    #88143
    Andrew
    Participant

    A quid? Ah, this must mean they’re planning to redesign Cassandra! :-)

    #88145
    JamesTC
    Participant

    Either that or nobody wants a broken cassandra, the only people I can see buying it are collectors.

    #88151
    Dave
    Participant

    >I don?t want Paterson Joseph. :-(

    Me either

    #88160
    Rad
    Participant

    Yeah, I’m not too enthusiastic about Paterson Joseph. But I’ve only seen him in Hyperdrive, Survivors and doing a ghastly American accent in Jekyll. I’ve not seen Neverwhere.

    The MediaGuardian website is listing Chiwetel Ejiofor as one of the candidates but I don’t see that happening. He would definitely satisy a lot of camps if he was though – a serious actor and appeared in Serenity.

    #88178
    Pete Part Three
    Participant

    Well, it doesn’t sound like it’s Patterson Joseph…

    #88179
    Michael Warren
    Participant

    We’re going to go through all ten of them before we get there, aren’t we?

    #88180
    Pete Part Three
    Participant

    …sounds like Matt Smith.

    #88181
    Pete Part Three
    Participant

    Looks like Matt Smith. Or Crispin Glover.

    #88182
    Tanya Jones
    Participant

    And it is. I have absolutely no idea who he is, though, so can’t pass comment.

    #88183
    Michael Warren
    Participant

    Quite amusing that they filmed two different versions of DT’s “beginning of the end” line there…

    And, yes, I’d never heard of him either, never seen him in anything…

    #88184
    TheLeen
    Participant

    Now I feel old.

    #88185
    Al
    Participant

    Should be interesting – H e seems to have no lips however…..

    Also, they love that Thnks Fr Th Mmrs montage dont they.

    #88186
    Jonathan Capps
    Keymaster

    He looks and sounds like a foppish rugby player. And he better sort that fucking hair out before filming.

    Fuck.

    #88187
    ChrisM
    Participant

    >Now I feel old.

    Heh. I just said something similar on another board. (Referring to myself I mean. I wouldn’t talk about you like that. ;) )

    I don’t really know him, although his face is vaguely familiar.

    I did see part of that Victorian drama he was in with Billie Piper too, but I didn’t put the faces together.

    I have my doubts, but I don’t know him so… we’ll see. He looks the part with his black outfit anyway.

    I’m glad they gave an unknown the chance. It’s good to see the new up-and-comers are getting a chance.

    #88188
    Pete Part Three
    Participant

    I have a feeling he’ll be bloody good.

    But I was concerned that Moffat likes his hair too. It’s a bit of a mess.

    He’s also got an amazingly small face. I wonder if he has trouble eating Giant Smarties.

    #88189
    Rad
    Participant

    Yeah, there’s no reason it shouldn’t work out. It might not but at this stage I’m okay with it. Though there is something irritating about the kind of self-congratulation we’re getting in this programme 15 months before we really see the new Doctor in action, 6 months before they start filming and probably still while the new Doctor is starting to be defined. ‘He’s the one isn’t he?’ – save it for an edition of Series 5 Doctor Who Confidential.

    #88190
    Al
    Participant

    Moffat has hair like an action man

    #88191

    > Moffat has hair like an action man

    I knew I recognised it from somewhere.

    And I’ve never really seen Matt in action but from those clips they showed, I’m rather happy with the choice.

    #88192
    TheLeen
    Participant

    I was secretly rooting for Chiwetel Ejiofor.

    Oh well. I have some faith in the makes of Who. They probably picked the right person. Or one of the many that would have been right. I think I’ll be… carefully optimistic.

    #88193
    Dave
    Participant

    I didn’t like him in Ruby In The Smoke, but I saw the understudy run of That Face (which therefore he wasn’t in) and he had a very demanding part and got very good reviews.

    I’m keeping an open mind. I’m trying not to think he’s too young.

    #88194
    hummingbird
    Participant

    I have absolutely no idea who the guy is, hence I have no opinion at all.

    Although I’m rather disturbed that they’re going for younger and younger doctors.

    #88196
    James
    Participant

    It’s funny some of you say you haven’t heard of him, but in the Movie thread, you mention in Bruges. He played young Harry.

    #88200
    Seb Patrick
    Keymaster

    >It?s funny some of you say you haven?t heard of him, but in the Movie thread, you mention in Bruges. He played young Harry.

    I honestly don’t even remember where or in what context a young version of Harry appeared (Ralph Fiennes as the adult version is only in it for about ten minutes or so), or whether he had any dialogue, so it’s hardly a surprise that no-one would go “Oh! THAT Matt Smith!”

    #88201
    Seb Patrick
    Keymaster

    >Who has a bright future wants up-his-arse RTD leaves

    Yeah, the future is so bright, much brigher than a past in which it’s become the biggest programme on British TV, where a casting announcement holds the country in its thrall and is front page national news, where it tops the weekly ratings for the first time in its history, and where it includes episodes such as “Blink”, “Human Nature” and “Midnight”.

    #88202
    JamesTC
    Participant

    It is popular and I higly enjoy it but I hate RTD as a person, I will be much happier when he is far away from the show so I don’t have to here is up-he-arse comments about how great he is and how great the show is because it is all him being up his arse.
    Oh and ‘Blink’ was barely average if you ask me, the show is not called The amazing adventure of Sally Sparrow and co, I want to see the Doctor! And please, it is easy to blink one eye at a time, try it.
    ‘Human Nature’ was based on a virgin novel, hardly an original idea but a great two parter.
    ‘Midnight’ was repetitive and boring and too unoriginal for me.
    Lets name more popular episodes of the new series –
    ‘Dalek’ – Based on an audio called ‘Jubilee’, it was about half as good.
    ‘Doomsday’ – Hoover! I would like to re-name it “Canon Fodder of the Daleks’. RTD has actually said in an interview that this episode was to show how much better the Dalek swere to the Cybermen, shame he didn’t use the Cybermen, he used some weird alternative robot.
    ‘The Empty Child’ – Brilliant, you can see why Moffat is getting the job.
    ‘Girl in the Fireplace’ – Brilliant, you can see why Moffat is getting the job.
    ‘Silence in the Library’ – Do I have to say it again.

    Lest we not forget the biggest punch in teh face for every hardcore Doctor Who fan in the shit fest that was ‘Last of the Time Lords’, hello gollum, my you look like David Tennant, hello Jesus, my you look like David Tennant. Lets all think world peace at the same time all across the world and see if it happens.

    As much as it seems I dis-like the new series I do enjoy it, I look forward to 2010 alot. It is just annoying because I enjoy the Confidential show and it is full of RTD comments which are just him being up his own arse. He is a good writer as long as he sticks to small scale character driven plots, he needs some original ideas though.

    #88197
    JamesTC
    Participant

    He seems to be alot like McGann, maybe it is just me hoping but I think he will be a mix of Davison and McGann. Funny on certain forums they are saying he is too young when Davison was only a couple of years older, I doubt they would have liked anyone who took the part unless it was Tennant’s evil twin brother or Billie Piper.

    Well its got me exited, Who has a bright future once up-his-arse RTD leaves, I was never so bitter to RTD until I listened to Big Finish Audio and saw just how much he steals.

    #88205
    hummingbird
    Participant

    > It?s funny some of you say you haven?t heard of him, but in the Movie thread, you mention in Bruges. He played young Harry.

    I honestly don’t remember him.

    > Funny on certain forums they are saying he is too young when Davison was only a couple of years older

    He’s not “too young”, it’s just that I would have welcomed a more mature actor.
    Someone said earlier in the thread that’d they’d like to see another grandfather figure, and I agree. Far more interesting.

    #88206
    JamesTC
    Participant

    While I would like a grandfather figure I doubt it would work in modern day Who, the audience would go crazy, especially the fan-girls.

    #88208
    JamesTC
    Participant

    I quite like this – http://thisisnotthedoctor.ytmnd.com/

    #88210
    Seb Patrick
    Keymaster

    but I hate RTD as a person, I will be much happier when he is far away from the show so I don?t have to here is up-he-arse comments about how great he is and how great the show is because it is all him being up his arse.

    Sigh. Alright. You’ve got a perception of him (although saying you “hate him as a person” when you’ve never met him is a bit rich) that’ll probably never change, although if you read the Writer’s Tale you’d know that underneath all that bombast (which is a quite deliberate put-on in order to help boost the show in a promotional sense – and besides, the very concept of a modest writer is a self-defeating one. We feign self-deprecation but if we didn’t think what we did was any good, we wouldn’t be putting it out there) is a human being with as many insecurities and neuroses as anyone else.

    The RTD that you see in Confidential is as much a fictional creation as a certain Time Lord that he writes about.

    Oh and ?Blink? was barely average if you ask me

    And with that you’ve just lost the right to talk to me.

    ?Human Nature? was based on a virgin novel, hardly an original idea but a great two parter.

    … scripted by the person that wrote the original.

    ?Midnight? was repetitive and boring and too unoriginal for me.

    What was unoriginal about it?

    ?Dalek? – Based on an audio called ?Jubilee?, it was about half as good.

    … scripted by the person that wrote the original.

    #88212
    JamesTC
    Participant

    Oh and just because I don’t like ‘Blink’ you think my opinion is no longer valid, we are all different, if we were all the same ‘ME2’ would happen. I think ‘Blink’ would probably be average for me if it wasn’t so overhyped, to me I watch Who to see that over-active alien from Gallifrey, not some bird (that is a double entendre) scared of statues, I do understand what that episode was about but I just didn’t find it entertaining in the end, I guess when Who tries to be out-right scary I just lose interest.

    #88211
    JamesTC
    Participant

    They are written by the same guy in each cases but why? Why not get the guy who written ‘Jubilee’ and say write something original, I hate them re-making previous Who, why re-make it when you have a universe of ideas to explore.

    ‘Midnight’ was alot like ‘The Edge of Destruction’ in that an unknown alien was outside the ship and attacking, the crew aboard become suspicious of each other.

    I have never met RTD but comments from him about people on message boards who don’t like his episodes are just, well, it is a bit up his arse of him to say we can’t not like his episode and discuss it isn’t it?

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