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  • #4219
    Jo
    Participant

    I’m sure there will be people who say they hate it and they’re not watching it. But we are and it seems a few other people on here are too!
    So… I can haz Big Brother 10 discussion thread?

    :o)

    Who do you think is going to be up for nomnomnomination this week?

    I’m thinking Noirin and Marcus, though I’d love Lisa to go up she seems to have stayed off the radar a bit this week.

    #101611
    Jonathan Capps
    Keymaster

    Yeah, Noirin and Marcus to go up with Noirin a clear favourite to go. Marcus may be a massive dick, but he’s being hugely entertaining at the moment so let’s keep him in until there’s a genuine chance of him killing someone.

    I’ve realised, though, that I don’t actively hate how anyone in the house is at the moment. Obviously Lisa is a massive idiot, but she’s quietened down considerably, and people like Sophie and Charlie have brightened up a lot after that poisonous cunt Kris fucked off.

    #101612
    Andrew
    Participant

    Marcus has gone brilliantly crackers since Noirin ‘dumped’ him. His stroppy teenager routine yesterday was just awesome – and yeah, likely to see him put up, I’d have thought. (Meanwhile he’ll be voting for Noirin and Siavash presumably.)

    We’re not seeing much of Hira, which is a shame. She seemed entertainingly dim and easily confused when she arrived…

    #101615
    Jo
    Participant

    Yeah Hira, she did seem very entertaining, it’s a shame she’s fallen off the radar. I’d like to see a bit more of her and much, much less of Noirin.

    Charlie is great now that Kris has left, I thought that would be the case and I’m happy to see that I was correct.

    Rodrigo is a strange one, at first he was one of my favourites but since we’ve seen more of him and his strops I’m not so enamoured with him… but I do love him and Charlie together.

    Bea is another odd one. I have a bad feeling. I really, really liked her when she came in and befriended Freddie, but the way she seems to be running from one person to the next… it might all be innocent and well intentioned, but this is Big Brother so we’ll see!

    #101618
    ChrisM
    Participant

    We?re not seeing much of Hira, which is a shame. She seemed entertainingly dim and easily confused when she arrived?

    Her little singing performance outside Marcus’s cage somehow managed to be painful and cute at the same time.
    She generally comes across very sweet and…yes dim and a bit irritating (is this emotion ambivalence, cue dog eating peanut butter routine?) I noticed that when she talks to people she natters on interrupting them… Heh. The occasional time we see her that is.

    Rodrigo is a strange one, at first he was one of my favourites but since we?ve seen more of him and his strops I?m not so enamoured with him?

    Again with the ambivalence with me. I find the strops both irritating and amusing. Mainly because he is pretty much errupting over nothing.

    Bea is another odd one. I have a bad feeling. I really, really liked her when she came in and befriended Freddie, but the way she seems to be running from one person to the next?

    I’m just not sure what to make of her. I had the same feeling pretty much when she first came in. I actually don’t think she’s fake.. but a bit pretentious maybe, although I think she genuinely means well. I was on her side when she didn’t follow the others newbies pressure to influence Freddie, but then when the task was given out she blurted ‘THEY TRIED TO PRESSURE ME!” It’s understandable, I suppose but the whole passing blame (albeit she was right) felt rather a low blow to me.

    And yeah, Marcus is a big kid. Although I feel a bit sorry for him too.

    #101619
    ChrisM
    Participant

    Oh, and I think Noirin will go. But I thought that when Karly (or whatever her name is) went. I’m not sure what to make of Noirin either, although I don’t think she’s quite as bad as she is made out to be. She is accused of stringing guys along but often or not the guys own infatuations seems to narrow their own vision of the situation somewhat. (Not sure I phrased that right. Point is, we can see she isn’t really interested*, but they can’t.)

    *Apart from Siavash. Dear me how boring is this…

    #101624
    Andrew
    Participant

    Noirin’s really not doing herself any favours. I’m amazed how passive she’s able to play things and still have the mostly-intentional effect she’s having. Men are crap.

    I don’t think it’s an in-game thing. Like Lisa, she’s behaving more or less as she would outside. She just seems to define herself by the attention she gets, while Lisa’s natural instinct is to wrestle control the world around her, which means removing the people she’s not keen on. (It’s bizarre to watch her reactions when something happens that she had no control over or that she never saw coming.)

    Meanwhile Siavash’s utter uselessness now he’s on the Noirin leash has really endeared me to him. Admitting that all his ‘great with women’ entry video schtick was just talk was a big deal, and includes the kind of self-awareness Marcus, Kris and others lacked.

    > I?ve realised, though, that I don?t actively hate how anyone in the house is at the moment.

    Not now Kenneth’s walked. The big gimp.

    #101626
    Jo
    Participant

    Noirin Vs Marcus it is!
    I;m a bit gutted Lisa didn’t get nominated, but as I said – she’s been so quiet (sulking) that she’s not really provoked any kind of reaction this week. I think her not being nominated this week will give her some confidence back and hopefully she’ll open that massive trap of hers and get herself nominated next week :oD

    >Not now Kenneth?s walked. The big gimp.

    I was not happy at all that he got a leaving show.
    The whole thing is you walk, you get nothing! The papers and Heat magazine are there to do those interviews with him and Karly.
    STOP DOING BIG BROTHER WRONG! Bah!

    I really like Siavash, he’s all cute and smitten bless him! Though I did like him before all this too – he’s in my final three with Charlie… not sure who else though I think Halfwit/Freddie has lost the sympathy vote since Lisa and Kris have stopped attacking him so I can’t see him staying that long now.

    The problem that I have with Noirin is that her words don’t match her actions. Yes, she has been pro-active in telling various people that she’s not interested in them. Good stuff, but 10 mins later she’s with those same people cuddling on the sofa/in bed, stripping off and having her back painted or joking about flashing her tits in return for a can of beer.

    If Tom had stayed she’d have made a play for him, as it is she’s settled for Siavash but is keeping him on a tight leash. She actually used the phrase “Friends with benefits” FFS!

    I’m thinking Noirin to go this week.

    #101627
    performingmonkey
    Participant

    Siavash and Dogface are going to be the last 2, mark my words. Halfwit will go before the final week because he will be screwed over by Bea. Others in the final will be Lisa (bah), Charlie, Rodrigo and Hira.

    #101630
    Andrew
    Participant

    > I?m thinking Noirin to go this week.

    Ditto. Which, given the ridiculous way Marcus has been behaving, shows just how egregious her behaviour has been.

    #101631
    Danny Stephenson
    Keymaster

    “What is ‘egregious’?”

    #101632
    Jonathan Capps
    Keymaster

    What I worry about is whether we’ll be getting yet another new house mate in to replace Kenny. I could just about cope with the extra five as they turned out to be at least entertaining, but it starts getting horribly messy when new people are brought in all over the shop.

    #101633
    Jonathan Capps
    Keymaster

    lol:

    http://www.irrepressible.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/page2.html

    Have a look in the gallery to see whose site that is (if you can’t guess.)

    #101635
    Andrew
    Participant

    I’m wondering if they haven’t, finally, taken it as read that a proportion of housemates will walk each year and factored it into the schedule.

    Saffia walked and wasn’t replaced (um, I don’t think; I barely remember her!). And both Kenny and Tom skipped out just recently – which would mean putting two more in there.

    We’ve got 11 housemates (!!) left with five evictions to go and, actually, a lot of emotional fireworks filling out them show (anyone else finding that the constant tasks are getting in the way of the content of the daily show rather than enhancing it?). Shoving someone else in is possible, but two more, this late…I’d not be pleased.

    #101634
    TheLeen
    Participant

    > ?What is ?egregious???

    I can’t pronounce it.

    Edit: And I don’t understand it either. According to my dictionary, it can mean anything from “outrageous” over “put-and-out” to “brilliant”… eh?

    #101636
    Andrew
    Participant

    > Have a look in the gallery to see who?s site that is (if you can?t guess.)

    Excellent!

    #101637
    Andrew
    Participant

    > Edit: And I don?t understand it either

    Egregious = conspicuously bad or offensive; extraordinary in some bad way; glaring, flagrant, outrageous, notorious

    #101638
    TheLeen
    Participant

    Ta.

    “Conspicuously” with a “u”, there.

    God, your language is so confusing.

    As I’m not watching Big Brother, I’ll shut up now.

    #101640
    Danny Stephenson
    Keymaster

    Sorry I was trying to be clever and quote the League of Gentlemen. Apologies for the confusion.

    #101642
    ChrisM
    Participant

    I actually find myself liking the guy a bit after seeing that website. He’s still a twat on the show but…

    #101643
    Jonathan Capps
    Keymaster

    He’s clearly been working on it for ages. There’s an absolute tonne of pages.

    #101644
    si
    Participant

    I’ll have said this before somewhere, but I’ll say it again – I haven’t watched BB since I didn’t get past the first stage of the open auditions for BB5 when I was at Uni down in Cardiff.

    I’d told all my mates that I wouldn’t be at the lecture because I’d be down Cardiff Bay, but I was ‘evicted’ so early, I was back in time for the lecture.

    I never watched again. Up to that point, however, I’d been mad about it. I even had a diary which detailed every day for the first four BBs.

    #101645
    si
    Participant

    >Sorry I was trying to be clever and quote the League of Gentlemen. Apologies for the confusion.

    I’ve been watching LOG every day this past week as I await the gripping conclusion of Psychoville. Every episode with the commentary on – I’m up to episode 2.4 at the moment.

    #101646
    Jo
    Participant

    That website is hilarious :oD

    What do people think about what’s going to happen in tonight’s show? I’m not massively happy about this messing around again. It’ll be Kenneth and Karly all over again!

    #101647
    Andrew
    Participant

    I’m wholly unimpressed with the what they’re about to do. Aside from having already done it once this series, it’s ALREADY the bloody Noirin show. Do we really need a fifth bloke in her tedious orbit?

    I’ve been watching some of the old videos on the BB website. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again – if they were show old series again (maybe in some condensed ‘a week every three days’ form) I wouldn’t be able to resist tuning in. ‘Member I told you!

    #101648
    Andrew
    Participant

    Also: Dogface said she had sex with Kris while in the house. She’s a pretty – if frighteningly top-heavy – girl, and I’m extremely disappointed that this footage has not seen the light of day.

    #101649
    Carlito
    Participant

    > I?ll have said this before somewhere, but I?ll say it again – I haven?t watched BB since I didn?t get past the first stage of the open auditions for BB5 when I was at Uni down in Cardiff.
    I?d told all my mates that I wouldn?t be at the lecture because I?d be down Cardiff Bay, but I was ?evicted? so early, I was back in time for the lecture.
    I never watched again.

    What a sad, sad story.

    Cardiff Uni, ey? Monday nights in Solis… happy days.

    #101650
    Jo
    Participant

    I expected a live show tonight, strange that they’re doing it as a normal show!

    After tonight’s show:

    *Looks like Lisa is getting back to her bitchy old self!
    *I dislike Bea even more
    *I like Siavash even more (Aw, his little face when he was talking to Marcus!)
    *I think BB needs to stage an intervention and remove Marcus from his duvet.

    #101651
    Andrew
    Participant

    I’m not sure Lisa’s back, so much we’re getting time to show her usual behaviour again after the recent chaos…

    And at this point I think Siavash is actually going win the damn thing!

    #101653
    performingmonkey
    Participant

    > Every episode with the commentary on

    I think I know the commentaries better than the episodes! Who ARE they??

    > She?s a pretty – if frighteningly top-heavy – girl, and I?m extremely disappointed that this footage has not seen the light of day.

    I doubt that footage would be anything more than a duvet moving around in nightvision. Hardly them writhing about in the garden, reverse cowgirl.

    I’m trying to think why I just typed ‘reverse cowgirl’, why that came to me. Is it because sub-consciously I would NOT want to look at her massively deformed breasts as I was doing the deed?? But then I’d have to look at her straggly hair extensions! Am I messed up in the head?? No, I just love natural girls, redheaded ones at that. Oh yeah.

    #101657

    Does anybody else think Halfwit has managed to get some weed in the house? He talks as if he’s constantly stoned.

    #101658
    Ben Paddon
    Participant

    I live in America. We do not currently have Big Brother, and from where I’m sitting that sounds like the best thing ever.

    #101660
    Ian Symes
    Keymaster

    I?m trying to think why I just typed ?reverse cowgirl?, why that came to me. Is it because sub-consciously I would NOT want to look at her massively deformed breasts as I was doing the deed?? But then I?d have to look at her straggly hair extensions! Am I messed up in the head?? No, I just love natural girls, redheaded ones at that. Oh yeah.

    No, you *would* be able to see the breasts in a reverse cowgirl – that’s where the woman is facing away from the man.

    Erm, carry on.

    #101690
    Jo
    Participant

    So… Isaac.

    I’m still nt entirely happy about them sending someone else in. But that said, I actually quite like him!

    I mean he’s arrogant and pretty controlling of Noirin (maybe she needs that given her behaviour), but he tried to break the ice with Siavash and offered to have a chat or set up a chat with Noirin if Siavash needed it which I thought was nice of him AND he pulled Bea up on her shit stirring! Hurrah!
    Isaac being in there has got Siavash and Marcus talking again which is good!
    Marcus seems to have perked up no end and Siavash has inherited the duvet of depression – hope he snaps out of it soon though!

    I loved that the housemates all ignored him when he came in just and ate their fish and chips :oP

    I’m liking Bea less and less each time I see her, for someone who says she’s all about peace and love she is a very negative person who spends most of her time talking and/or bitching about other people behind their backs.

    #101696
    Andrew
    Participant

    In his Girls Aloud wig, I genuinely mistook Charlie for Lisa.

    #101697
    Andrew
    Participant

    Just watched the rest of last night’s ep and…ugh.

    > I mean he?s arrogant and pretty controlling of Noirin (maybe she needs that given her behaviour)

    I think he encourages her to be even more fundamentally inconsiderate and selfish than she already is. Needless to say, I’m not considering this a benefit. (The way she talked to Rodrigo was all him.)

    > but he tried to break the ice with Siavash and offered to have a chat or set up a chat with Noirin if Siavash needed it which I thought was nice of him

    I can’t agree. That’s not an act of kindness, it’s an act of territory. He’ll talk to Siavash to stamp on the guy’s affection for Noirin, and set up a chat with Noirin so SHE can do the same. Coached in advance, no doubt – the guy’s not to keen on letting her think for herself. (Not that it does her much good, but still.) It’s a single-minded action, there’s no generosity in it.

    >AND he pulled Bea up on her shit stirring! Hurrah!

    Much as I have variable opinions of Bea, she’s the only one to pull Noirin up on the crap she’s pulled over the last week – and she more than deserved it. Doing it in front of the guy is more respectful than behind his back, so it’s pretty crass for him to call her on doing it that way.

    Noirin’s revisioned a history – which Issac apparently buys – where she told Siavash that if her ex returned, he’d be out on his ear. Which, no, isn’t the signal she was giving out to him. And Issac coming in telling Bea that SHE misunderstood the situation…that’s bullshit. She couldn’t even tell Siavash he came in second to Tom.

    Noirin now has this guard dog guy who’ll bark at anyone who calls her on the crap she pulls. That’s not healthy. For anyone. Telling people it’s none of their business – which she’s also now started doing – is ridiculous. She roped everyone into the damn saga when it started, and it’s been proved in the last week that what she does affects the entire house. Bea’s attempt at a reality check, for me, was a brave and valid thing, and it’s only a shame it won’t be allowed to continue.

    Also: “Daddy’s back”, “Maybe we shouldn’t share a bed tonight.” He’s in the house for an hour. What a cock.

    (I struggle to respect a man who’ll happily stay split up, getting himself a load of ‘I was on TV’ shagging, until such time as a TV network ask him to be reunited. His reasons for doing this, they way he’s done it – march in, back on within the hour, along with Noirin’s disgustingly immediate and cold “Sorry Siavash!” announcement to a kitchen he wasn’t in – and his blatant lack of interest in anyone’s emotional state but his own…Cock.)

    > Isaac being in there has got Siavash and Marcus talking again which is good!

    Every year there seems to be one day of Big Brother than has me screaming at the screen and pacing the floor. In those moments, you try to grab on to the truest, kindest emotional moments to remind you that life isn’t all cruelty and selfishness. The Marcus/Siavash stuff provided that, at least.

    #101702
    Jo
    Participant

    The “Daddy’s back” comment made me be a little sick in my mouth :oS

    After tonight’s show I’m less inclined to think of him in a positive way, HOWEVER I still think him going in the house is actually a good thing for these reasons:

    *It’s shown Noirin’s true colours and (hopefully) confirmed her eviction from the house tonight.

    *Siavash and Marcus are friends again which has made me happy.

    *Whatever your thoughts on Bea, since Isaac has come in the house she’s upped her bitchiness by a massive amount. Which is fine and entertaining, but she’s a fucking hypocrite. I expect it from Lisa not the peace and love hippy rich girl.

    *His comment tonight about the rectum tree (?) gave me the biggest laugh I’ve had all day when Lisa so astutely pointed out that he was calling them all arseholes. She acted like she’d broken some secret code! Very amusing.

    I’m hoping that if Noirin leaves tonight he’ll get bored and walk, certainly no-one else wants him in there… except maybe Bea. The hypocritical toolbucket.

    #101703
    Andrew
    Participant

    No question it’s added drama, and thrown Noirin’s behaviour into sharp relief.

    But I also feel like Big Brother cheated, somehow. They play a lot of games to turn the heat up, always have, but…Siavash was already going to get hurt a bit, putting Issac in seemed like an act of cruelty to him. Yet usually I don’t bemoan their meddling (chucking an annoying housemate back in after they’re kicked out? S’fine). Not sure why this time it feels unfair to me, but somehow it did.

    > I?m hoping that if Noirin leaves tonight he?ll get bored and walk,

    I think this is what’s completing my contempt for him. I’m not keen on the way his return didn’t even include a ‘sorry I ditched you, wanna get back together?’ question – but the killer is that he’s planning to stay on the show.

    If I were serious – dead serious – about reuniting with the love of my life, even using reality TV do it, you could be damn sure that it’d matter more to me than the exposure (he can’t think he’ll win the ‘100,000 dollar’ prize!). “If she left, she’s all that matters to me and I’d be packed and out the back door before Davina asked her first interview question”.

    #101704
    Dave
    Participant

    I haven’t seen it, but my god the advert was annoying:

    “I’m the man, it’s a done deal, done and dusted”

    #101707
    Jo
    Participant

    >he can?t think he?ll win the ?100,000 dollar? prize!

    If he does win, which he won’t, but if he does they should give him 100,000 DOLLARS. Ha.

    I know they met on a reality show, maybe the internet rumblings are right and they planned as a couple for him to turn up all along… mostly the these rumours are all shit but yeah, strikes me as odd that if he’s there to “win her back” he doesn’t even apologise. Just “Daddy’s back” now heel, there’s a good girl! Hmmm.

    #101708
    Andrew
    Participant

    Aaaannnd – he’s left!

    Interestingly, it seems he quit after everyone told him Charlie was a shoo-in to win…

    #101710
    Jo
    Participant

    It’s a shame I’d half hoped after Noirin was so certain that he’d walk tonight that he’d actually stay. That would have pissed her right off! Ah well!

    #101735
    Jonathan Capps
    Keymaster

    Sophie not being able to spell Marcus, there.

    #101777
    Andrew
    Participant

    Marcus is sick of Siavash’s constant moping post-Noirin. Viewers have called the hypocrisy police to the house.

    #101778
    ChrisM
    Participant

    I had to switch over during Freddie’s ‘performance.’ It really made me wince. Not the fact it was out of tune (although that was part of it.) I just found it very embarrassing, with all the jazzy du-bab du bab stuff. Don’t get me wrong, I actually like some jazz, but this was just corny in the extreme.

    He put his all into it though bless his heart. I do quite like him.

    Hera’s performance was cute and amusing. (And a bit saucy.) I think she deserved the prize. (As far as I can tell as we didn’t see all the performances.)

    #101782
    performingmonkey
    Participant

    I bet the story Marcus recited for his bit was one of the short stories off his website. The Irrepressible Dark Horse.

    The funniest thing on there is the quotes page where he’s got quotes by Churchill, C.S. Lewis, Aristotle, Optimus Prime and others alongside his own quote.

    #101854
    Andrew
    Participant

    Oh, Bea. Bea, Bea, Bea.* I cut you some slack earlier because, drama queen though you are, you’re basically fearless and willing to tell whole-truths to people who need to hear them. But now…

    Well, now you’re kinda Noirin.

    If you don’t fancy a guy, you don’t fair enough. You gave a few signals, but since they were non-verbal we’re still in that safe zone where you can also take them back again. But “Do you fancy me?” – even in that needy, Half-wit way – is not an act of cruelty. Saying ‘no’ is fair enough. Beating the guy up the next day for asking the question, making him feel like a heel just for voicing the question, is kicking a silly posh boy when he’s down.

    A gimp he is. A bastard he is not. And deflecting your guilt and awkwardness back at him that way is simply not on.

    Everyone’s up for eviction this week. Bea, you’ve just gone from ‘likely top three’ to ‘top candidate for the chop’.

    *I’d like to point out that I’m perfectly aware that she can’t actually read this post. It’s just a style thing.

    #101863
    Jonathan Capps
    Keymaster

    Bea is appalling at taking any apologies. She just continues to whine, without an ounce of grace.

    #101866
    Jo
    Participant

    I really, really dislike Bea… it’s between Bea and Lisa to go I think. Well it would be if BB weren’t fucking around with the voting.
    IMO, we should only vote to save/win in the final.

    #101870
    performingmonkey
    Participant

    Yeah, vote to save. Could they make it any more blatant??

    Even though Bea is a fairly horrible human being in terms of how she’s acting on the show (she could be nice in real life, how do we know?), things are still quite interesting with her around which is why Endemol have switched the voting to keep her in. I thought it was prety funny when she just said ‘no’ to Halfwit when he asked her if she fancied him. Flippin’ heck, not even I’ve ever had it said to me that bluntly! Although, like Bea said, you don’t usually ask someone that unless you’re about 14.

    #101872
    ChrisM
    Participant

    Did you hear what she said about the queen? “Her husband is dead. That’s why we have a queen and no king.” (Or words to that effect.) Mind you I noticed she smiled shortly after saying it, so maybe she was pulling Rodrigo(Rodriguez?)’s leg.

    #101912
    Jo
    Participant

    No, I think she’s actually quite thick, She just covers it with a posh accent.

    Tonight’s show = excellent. I love the fact that BB waited 5 HOURS before telling Hira she didn’t have to actually eat her way through the whole giant cake. I did massive lolz! And then she totally misunderstood and kept fanning herself after she was back in the house as “part of the task”. This woman is wonderfully dim :oD

    Big old argument = Entertaining.

    Freddy cackling like a mentalist and saying he’s popular and so won’t be leaving = MASSIVE FAIL.

    #101916
    ChrisM
    Participant

    I found myself laughing at the ruckus. Maybe I should have been disgusted and annoyed… but of all the days to row, it’s the day they’re dressed up in silly costumes. And… basically rowing about nothing. (Am I wrong for finding that funny?)

    And yes, Hera’s task was funny. And messy. I liked the small seat gag. Wonder if she got it?

    #101919
    performingmonkey
    Participant

    Does anyone else think Freddie is about this close (just imagine I’m holding my finger and thumb 25mm apart) to a nervous breakdown? His manic laughter isn’t something you usually see outside of some sort of medical facility. And his ‘singing’ was way more disturbing than them singing Joseph songs on Psychoville.

    #101927
    Jonathan Capps
    Keymaster

    I loved last night’s show. Excellent tasks, a massive and bizarre row and Rodrigo wearing the cat costume from Big Train.

    And, yes, Freddie is going to snap very soon.

    #101971
    Dave
    Participant

    Oh God, is it still on?

    #101972
    Jo
    Participant

    No, we’re just making it up.

    #101979
    Jonathan Capps
    Keymaster

    > Oh God, is it still on?

    Yes, and better than it has been in years.

    #101981
    Andrew
    Participant

    I’m never keen on the gross-out talks. I don’t enjoy watching them, and I’m not convinced they improve the show – certainly the long-term fall-out tends to be fairly minimal.

    But at least there was a mix with these – not all yucky stuff. And bonus points for inventive photography with Hira’s.

    #102005
    Jo
    Participant

    Poor Hira!

    Stupid BB fucking around with the voting! BAH!

    #102015
    performingmonkey
    Participant

    They had to do it because there are too many weeks left for them to lose anymore of the main characters just yet.

    #102152
    Jo
    Participant

    Freddie is actually going mental isn’t he?
    I was chuffed that in a brief moment of clarity he called Bea out for her bitching – he face was great. Sadly he didn’t have the backbone to stick up for himself and kept apologising, of course Bea accepted his apology in her usual graceful manner.

    I really, really dislike her!

    #102170
    performingmonkey
    Participant

    I’m not sure whether I love or loathe Freddie. Bea is making it very easy to sympathise with him atm (at the moment). Though I hope he never becomes a politician, seeing as it’s taken him about a month to realise that he’s been manipulated. Hopefully he’ll learn from this whole charade.

    I want Marcus to go because he’s the biggest baby going. Whinging and whinging about Big Brother and yet, as Sophie said, why doesn’t he just walk out? because he’s like a baby with a nappy full of doodoo, that’s why. He would never walk out of there unless he knew 100% he was being evicted.

    #102171
    Andrew
    Participant

    It’s bizarre, the journey Halfwit’s been on. – but I suspect it ends this week.

    All those weeks of survival, and he let it make him cocky. All the Lisa-baiting is gonna come back and bite him this week. So despite Bea being utterly vile (I’m now sick to death of her insulting people and then crying when they get upset with her), I think his card has been marked.

    But dear God, have ever two men been more deluded than Marcus and Halfwit when it comes to ‘the game’? They consider themselves these great readers of behaviour, but they’re right about as often as…well, Charlie.

    #102173
    performingmonkey
    Participant

    As evil as Bea is she’s far more in tune with reality than Marcus or Halfwit. That’s why she can be so manipulative, of course. Siavash will slide past all of them.

    #102175
    Ben Paddon
    Participant

    Did you see that one housemate do that outrageous thing? It was outrageous!

    #102177
    Jo
    Participant

    I saw this on DS forums and it made me do massive lolz…

    Save our BB Womble!! He must keep “Wombling Free!” :)
    Marcus is pure BB uniqueness. We CAN’T lose him. Who else wanders around in a duvet at night like a hairy casper, staring through the mirrors? Who else tries to outwit BB for a bit of five fingered “M” time, and is completely open and humorous about it when they catch him? Who else goes hash hunting in the garden at night, like a hash snuffling truffle pig? Who else speaks cryptically of “Interesting objects in the garden that we are not allowed to have” and then says, “I found a little interesting thing which I stuck to another interesting thing, to make a bigger interesting thing” He’s an effing BB Womble! Uncle Marcarius! From the Womble song “Pick up the pieces and make em into something new…is what we do!”. Proof, if proof be need be, of Marcus’s Womble status!

    The Womble of Borehamwood garden is he, making good use if the things that he find’s, things that the everyday folks leave behind

    You gotta keep the Marcus!

    I think that I would rather Freddie leave this week, if only to get him away from the vile Bea and into some sort of counselling!

    Watched the live feed for a bit last night and saw Bea and Lisa being all chummy at the bus stop, chatting about how the problem with Freddie is that he has live a sheltered life, has too much money that he hasn’t earned and talks about it too much. Bea then goes on to say how when she was younger she spent many of her summers staying with friends in St. Tropez. Stupid bitch.

    #102197
    performingmonkey
    Participant

    > Stupid bitch

    Maybe she just has a penchant for war history.

    #102222
    Jo
    Participant

    OMG! I hope tonight’s live feed goes in the highlights show. Marcus is currently KICKING BEA’S ASS! It’s TV GOLD!!! :o)

    She’s totally in denial, she’s insisting that she’s genuine and positive. She thinks that Marcus is making it up

    I won’t spoiler too much but this is quote from Marcus:
    “Basically everything you say is the opposite way round, you do all the shit you say you don’t and everyone else is vice versa”

    #102223
    Jo
    Participant

    Marcus SO needs to stay!

    #102227
    Jonathan Capps
    Keymaster

    Marcus will definitely stay if he’s been kicking Bea’s arse. This is excellent.

    #102242
    performingmonkey
    Participant

    Bea has been rumbled by Siavash, Halfwit and Marcus all in the space of a few days. Failure!

    #102266
    Andrew
    Participant

    And I’d say that was Marcus totally safe for the week. Thank you and goodnight.

    It’s amazing with Bea – at this point, almost everything she says about someone else would be entirely acurate if played back to her to describe herself.

    #102274
    Prue
    Participant

    I would just like to pop up here…

    We don’t have Big Brother here in Australia at the moment (thank goodness), and after a couple of showings of the first Big Bro, I couldn’t stand it anymore (didn’t do anything for me and I couldn’t stand watching ‘non-scripted’ people sit about, show off for the camera, or just be gits).

    However, saying that, I am loving this thread (probably because to me it isn’t ‘real’)! It’s like reading a drama that I don’t have to watch!!! Much, much more entertaining!!! Thanks for keeping us all informed!!!!

    I’ll go back to hiding now……..

    #102276
    Pete Part Three
    Participant

    I can’t believe Sally and Keith had sex in the pool!

    #102308

    I can’t call it this week. I’d much rather there was a third person up for eviction because Marcus and Halfwit are the most entertaining people in there. And it’s all Bea’s fault. The CUNT.

    #102310
    Andrew
    Participant

    I’m generally not too bothered with the bits of manipulation done to keep the show interesting. (Without it, Rodrigo meeting ‘The Queen’ would never have happened.) But I do feel like this series has gone a little too far nomination-wise.

    If/when Lisa survives to the final, it won’t be down to any quality on her part, but simply the tricks used – ‘vote to save…from everyone’, ‘you can talk about nominations this week’ – to keep the show active. There was a time when making it the end carried some value, at least in terms of being ‘nice’.

    I worry that Bea’s about to get the same treatment by the production – cos those fireworks are worth hanging onto…

    #102330
    performingmonkey
    Participant

    I get the feeling that Rodrigo is now the only person who can realistically win. If you think about it, the whole feel and theme of the series has pointed towards it. A few of the others have qualities that may have won them PAST series’ (Charlie seems to act like he’s IN a past series, he’s trying so hard to be a cross between Craig from BB1, Brian Dowling and Anthony who won it a few years ago, and yet he’s nowhere near) but Rodrigo really fits the bill this time around.

    The other two contenders are Siavash and Sophie. I reckon the producers might see a Sophie win as being a bit too boring, even though she has assets that will get her in the media. However nice she is, once the series ends she will be seen as just another reality TV blonde bimbo, a fairly predictable outcome. They won’t want Siavash to win because it seems he couldn’t give a flying fuck about anything anymore. Rodrigo, on the other hand, is extremely enthusiastic and would genuinely love to win.

    #102339
    Jo
    Participant

    The problem with Sophie is that she doesn’t really have a personality so when people like Bea, Kris and Karly come in she just claims their opinions and personality traits as her own. Which is not doing her any favours really.

    She’s better when she hangs around with Rodrigo, but that’s just because Roddy is (mostly) fun.

    I agree, I think Roddy is favourite to win (at the moment anyway – these things can change in an instant) the fact that he took the whole Queen thing in good humour did him a great favour.

    #102343
    Andrew
    Participant

    The final is so wide open right now – or, at least, between a few possibilities – that it’s going to end up depending on the events of the final weeks even more than normal. The Queen thing put Rodrigo up front after pinging between dull stupidity and idiotic tantrum. But Siavash gained similarly when the Noirin thing climaxed, having previously been a showy but easily-dismissed side-runner.

    Frankly, if they got Sophie, David of Charlie to do something good-natured, emotional, but faintly humiliating right now, their odds would shoot up, too.

    Bea and Lisa can’t win, that’s pretty much the only cert. Marcus still could if he toned down the cockiness – he’s arguably had the most screen time.

    #102348
    Jo
    Participant

    Bea talking about Marcus “He likes science fiction, I can’t be friends with anyone who likes science fiction”

    OH NOES! Bea will never be friends with us! Boo Hoo!

    Stupid bitch.

    #102349
    Andrew
    Participant

    To be fair, she said (I think) “none of my friends like science fiction.” She could make an SF friend, I guess. If they were deaf. And brain dead.

    She is a stupid bitch. That’s just not one of the major reasons.

    Meanwhile Rodrigo’s temper is going to make it very hard for him to win…

    #102350
    Jo
    Participant

    No, she definitely said she can’t be friends with anyone who likes science fiction. I typed it right after she said it ;o)

    >Meanwhile Rodrigo?s temper is going to make it very hard for him to win?

    Or Charlie purposely baiting him?
    I predict that Roddy is the next target for Bea and Charlie.

    #102352
    Andrew
    Participant

    > No, she definitely said she can?t be friends with anyone who likes science fiction.

    I’ll check when it appears on 4oD – because I’m pretty sure she said she ‘wasn’t friends with’ (or some variant) not ‘couldn’t be friends with’. I’d argue that the latter was certainly implied by her tone, but it wasn’t worded that way. But we’ll see when it goes up.

    Either way – cow.

    > Or Charlie purposely baiting him?

    Oh he’s certainly doing a bit of that – though only, mostly, because he’s entirely too dim to know when he’s crossing the line. I don’t think he says stuff to get a rise so much as to prove he has insight and notices things. Trouble is, he’s not smart enough to phrase the observations kindly, or to save them until the person won’t hear. Nor, indeed, for his insights to actually be that insightful.

    And he’s a dick when he’s drunk, of course.

    But Rodrigo’s temper’s not something he can control – prowling around the diary room, unable to cool down. He goes there too easily. It may not start out as his fault, but, like Freddy, it’s not doing him any favours when he over-reacts and fights back so hard and so badly. Whatever the cause – and it’s not all one-way – he’s actually the one who’s closest to physical violence when the kicks off.

    #102353
    performingmonkey
    Participant

    > because I?m pretty sure she said she ?wasn?t friends with? (or some variant) not ?couldn?t be friends with?.

    Definitely ‘couldn’t’.

    And yes, she most certainly is a bitch, one of the biggest ever to dwell behind those ‘cardboard’ walls. For Freddie to go before her is a huge injustice IMO, though I want to see Marcus in there more so it was a sacrifice that had to be made. Marcus may well strive towards the final four now that he’s coming across as more of the good guy. He deserves it more than the utter knob Charlie.

    #102359
    Andrew
    Participant

    > she definitely said she can?t be friends with anyone who likes science fiction.

    > Definitely ?couldn?t?.

    This just in from the ‘taking it all far too seriously’ department: The show is up on 4oD. The quote in question appear at around 24:58, and runs as follows:

    “Also, he likes science fiction. I’m not friends with anyone that likes science fiction. And he’s just a bit weird. He’s just a bit weird and not really my type of guy.”

    http://www.channel4.com/programmes/big-brother/4od#2932391

    Ms Potato, Mr Monkey, you may grovel when ready. :-p

    #102362
    performingmonkey
    Participant

    Well fuck the crows.

    #102364
    Jo
    Participant

    Can’t believe you watched to check!

    Either way – cow.

    ^This.

    #102370
    Andrew
    Participant

    > Can?t believe you watched to check!

    Only cos I couldn’t believe people were using the word ‘definitely’!

    #102374
    performingmonkey
    Participant

    Twat.

    #102376
    Jo
    Participant

    I definitely thought that’s what she said. So ner.
    In the grand scheme of things it doesn’t even matter, she still meant the same thing!

    #102382
    Andrew
    Participant

    > I definitely thought that?s what she said. So ner.

    Hey, you correct people on a public forum, you gotta back it up! And since I started the whole ‘you’re wrong’ thing, I wanted to either evidence the point or, y’know, apologise for getting it back-asswards. I’d be dragged through things and over things and then stuffed into a thing before I’d be allowed to get away with using the ‘well I definitely thought’ defence!

    What I do like about all this is the way it evidences Bea’s powers of offence. There’s a story that Hitler (blah, blah, Nazi meme) appeared before a huge crowd one day and friends were turning to each other and saying ‘Hey looked at me! He nodded right to me!’ Only it turns out everybody felt that way. With Bea, she may not be meaning to attack specific people, but her gift is she hits those targets whether she’s aiming for them or not – every time she opens her mouth, more people feel specifically wound-up. Bless her.

    #102383
    Andrew
    Participant

    Actually, thinking about Bea and Halfwit, it all boils down to ‘They started it’. Bea’s coven of cacklers and tea-stealers can hardly claim the high ground over Freddy laughing and crowing. They’ve matched each other insult for insult, cruelty for cruelty.

    But if you asked Bea how she’d justify it, it’s that Freddy deserves it because he was mean first. He was being negative first. And if you asked Freddy, you’d get much the same response – that he didn’t start acting that way until she laid into him under cover of ‘informing him of the truth’.

    Bea’s been harsher by a long way, I’d say; and started it. Though you blame it on lack of tact if it weren’t for the way she wheels out the crocodile tears when she gets caught going too far…

    #102404

    I don’t think she’ll last much longer. How much of a bitch she is was once again backed up at the end of today’s episode. I thought she was really harsh to Charlie when she said “Never EVER do that again”.
    At the end of the day she was being a pain in the arse when everyone was trying to sleep and deserved to have water spat at her. I think he should have spat piss at her…or maybe not.

    #102409
    Jo
    Participant

    She was SHOCKED! Fair enough, I’d maybe a bit annoyed if someone did that to me (spit water in my face) but then I wouldn’t have laughed to start with like she did. It was only when she realised that she could make a big drama out of it that it became a massive issue.

    I think she’ll go up this week. I think Lisa will nominate her, possibly David too… and if both Marcus and Siavash nominate her (likely) then that’s all we need to get rid of her whiny, bitchy little gerbil-like face.

    #102410
    Andrew
    Participant

    The lack of self-awareness is just amazing. She spends all this time moaning about how people are negative and totally misses the irony. Even that ‘letter’ contest – “I’d hate to lose out on a prize on a technicality’. Right, but you’d be happy to WIN a prize over other people on a technicality, then? That’s the spirit!

    #102412
    performingmonkey
    Participant

    > get rid of her whiny, bitchy little gerbil-like face.

    *miaow*

    I was watching it live last night and counting how many times she said the word ‘upset’. After about 10 I couldn’t be bothered any more. When you have to keep telling people you’re ‘upset’ over and over again there comes a point where no-one buys it. Not even from an 8-year-old.

    #102413
    ChrisM
    Participant

    Yeah. “In the alphabet some letters have more words…” following long explanation “that’s why more pages are devoted to them'” blah blah. And she thinks that should be taken into account like it’s unfair. Apart from the obvious fact that all letters were face down and everyone has an equal crack,etc.

    Part of me enjoys watching her though. Annoying people make good telly.

    Interesting thing is Rodrigo has his childish hissy fits, yet I still wouldn’t mind if he won, although I hope he tones down thte nonsence. His nasty side is a result of over-sensitivity, while Bea is selfish. His seems more forgivable, albeit he’s probably the closest to violence when he gets in a strop. Probably because when he’s nice he’s very nice.

    #102414
    Jonathan Capps
    Keymaster

    And there are loads of words beginning with ‘W’, the stupid cunt.

    #102416
    Andrew
    Participant

    To be fair, if she’d gone through ALL of the available W words in the English language in her minute, they might have had to compensate.

    If she wants compensating for getting W, Charlie should be allowed extra time for being thick.

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