Worst lines ever

[Seb Patrick]

For reasons too tedious to go into, I decided to put myself through watching “Only The Good” yesterday.

“Talia! The nanobots must have resurrected you, too!”

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[Seb Patrick]

>It would be really cool if you could do a proper poll?

A full-on poll would definitely be a good idea at some point – it’s just that logistically it would be a quite big thing to organise. I’m sure we’d like to get round to it some time, though.

The thing with our episodes thing was that it was less of a “here’s a definitive poll of fan opinion” and more an excuse and framework with which to, on the occasion of the 20th anniversary, sit down and give an opinionated overview of the entirety of the show. We wanted to devote more space and time to the episodes that we’d voted higher up – if we were doing that for general fan opinion, though, we might have found the balance skewed towards stuff we didn’t want to cover as much.

Anyway, basically – the Top 51 Episodes article is excellent and I won’t hear a bad word said against it, but there’s definitely room for polling the diverse readership of the site as well at some point.

[Tyrell Corporation]

Friends is pretty good up to Series 2, then it immediately fell apart.

I dearly hope ‘The Big Bang Theory’ sticks to its guns and gets rid of Penny.

[Jonathan Capps]

> I dearly hope ?The Big Bang Theory? sticks to its guns and gets rid of Penny.

Ah.

Well, in what way would that be “sticking to their guns”? They’ve not even hinted at getting rid of her yet, have they?

Also, she’s fucking hilarious and I don’t want her to go ANYWHERE.

[NitroChrisUK]

when frends was big everyone was going on and on and on about it so i sat and watched a few episodes .someone would walk in and say ” hey everyone iv just been to the shops ” and then there would be 5 minuits of laughing

but to be honest most amercan shows that have 3 thousand episodes a series are going to run dry sooner rather than later

[Jonathan Capps]

> when frends was big everyone was going on and on and on about it so i sat and watched a few episodes .someoen would walk in and say ? hey everyone iv just been to the shops ? and then there would be 5 minuits of laughing

Now, this just isn’t true, is it?

[Tyrell Corporation]

Six friends with such neurotic and utterly disposable mindsets would instantly crumble under the weight of their wankery.

Friends is shit, people are shit for liking it.

[pfm]

> VIII = IV

Get out.

[NitroChrisUK]

>Friends is shit, people are shit for liking it

bravo

[Jonathan Capps]

Tyrell, if you’ve quite finished kicking Friends in the genitals I’d be interested for you to expand on your Penny comment.

[NitroChrisUK]

>if you?ve quite finished kicking Friends in the genitals

they had genitles ?

[Tyrell Corporation]

Well she’s there to provide a contrast to the four geeks. She’s expendable and I’d much rather see Sara Gilbert’s character become a regular.

A sassy young blond, the series key demographics doth not make.

[Tyrell Corporation]

It’s sad to see that Friends made it past three episodes. It became almost incestual when they all started fucking and having babies together.

[Carlito]

I nearly put VIII > IV.

Then reconsidered.

That’s the best you’re getting out of me.

[Jonathan Capps]

> Well she?s there to provide a contrast to the four geeks. She?s expendable and I?d much rather see Sara Gilbert?s character become a regular.

Don’t you think a bit of contrast is essential? Especially when she is a genuinely funny person. And, once again, how would getting rid of Penny be “sticking to their guns”?

I know she’s obviously there in part because she’s ridiculously nice to look at, but her character’s interactions with the other cast is one of the main sources of humour in the show.

> A sassy young blond, the series key demographics doth not make.

Utter bollocks.

[Tyrell Corporation]

VI – IV – Godfather II – III – V – Empire Strikes Back – I – II – The Wall – VIII – Back To Earth – Shoe Polish – VII

[Ian Symes]

Friends is shit, people are shit for liking it.

You are a wanker. And I don’t even like Friends.

[Pete Part Three]

>It?s sad to see that Friends made it past three episodes. It became almost incestual when they all started fucking and having babies together.

Friends is the worst comedy series ever.

Or it’s just the most successful and so it’s an easy target.

[NitroChrisUK]

i tried watching friends on quite a few occasions and have never ever seen or heard anything slightly funny. the only american comedy shows i like are the animated ones .family guy simpsons ect ect because they dont look as fake as the people in friends

[pfm]

It’s because you can only watch kiddies cartoons.

[NitroChrisUK]

>It?s because you can only watch kiddies cartoons

hell yes id rather watch the rugrats than friends

[NitroChrisUK]

was big fan of lost untill about halfway through series 3 where we had had 6 thousand episodes and no answers to anything so gave up there . and 24 is an awesome idea fo 1 series .not 7 or however many there on now

[Ian Symes]

So basically, you have an incredibly short attention span?

[Mr Flibble]

A full-on poll would definitely be a good idea at some point – it?s just that logistically it would be a quite big thing to organise.

It’s not a big thing to organise at all. It would take – what? an hour to write a quick bit of PHP which let you choose from 1 to 8 which was your favourite series (or 1 to 52 episodes), dump that into a database and then you can present the results with a little blurb later and let us all moan for weeks about the order. Link it into Drupal so people can only vote once, easy.

[Ian Symes]

Thank God you’re here, Kirk.

[NitroChrisUK]

no i just think most american shows have way to many episodes per series and are dragged out for way to long. which is why i think most british comedy series make very few episodes (compared to american) then stop leaving you wanting more, which you get with christmas specials ect ect.

[Jonathan Capps]

Now let’s not start having a go at Family Guy, too, otherwise I’ll be forced to nuke the thread and kill everyone inside.

[locusceruleus]

>when frends was big everyone was going on and on and on about it so i sat and watched a few episodes .someone would walk in and say ? hey everyone iv just been to the shops ? and then there would be 5 minuits of laughing

That one somehow passed me by.

I did however once watch an episode of this show called Red Dwarf where a guy danced with an unrealistic CGI spaceship and everyone whooped, hollered and applauded for what seemed like minutes.

>family guy simpsons ect ect because they dont look as fake as the people in friends

Hmmm. Yes, hanging out with your friends and talking seems fake. Vomiting for 5 minutes, singing ‘surfing bird’ 20 times in a half hour, beating up a chicken and remembering the time you took a shit on Michael Moore’s baseball cap is the real deal. If you associate being good looking with being fake, that says a lot more about you than it does about a TV show.

> A sassy young blond, the series key demographics doth not make.

Oh, I whole heartedly agree. 18-40 year old males hate sassy young blonds. *eye roll*

[Phil]

I think kakchriskak is trying to say that outlandish shows like Family Guy and lots of Simpsons episodes KNOW they’re being outlandish, and they use that as their jumping off point, creating their own realities rather than trying to make us believe they exist in ours.

Whereas Friends and similar sitcoms make an attempt to fit into a more “normal” state of being, and, according to him, fail at it.

That’s my translation skill spent for the month, folks.

[locusceruleus]

That’s probably what he means, but it’s not what he said and the examples he used were in a reality all of their own.

[Phil]

>the examples he used were in a reality all of their own

When we start a Ganymede & Titan wiki, I nominate you to write the entry on kakchriskak.

[Dave]

>they had genitles ?

Yes, and Jews too.

[Mr Flibble]

Thank God you?re here, Kirk.

It really *isn’t* that big a thing to organise. If I remotely thought you’d accept, I’d offer to do it.

[Tyrell Corporation]

What happened to just typing in your top five episodes?

Out Of Time
Backwards
Kryten
The End
Legion

Everybody does that, mark totals for each episode, publish, then complain.

[Seb Patrick]

no i just think most american shows have way to many episodes per series and are dragged out for way to long. which is why i think most british comedy series make very few episodes (compared to american) then stop leaving you wanting more, which you get with christmas specials ect ect.

Arrested Development had 53 episodes and it was NOWHERE NEAR ENOUGH.

Meanwhile, people, stop talking bollocks about Friends. It was brilliant for three series, patchily brilliant for a further couple, disappeared up its own arse for the next few, and then pulled back to being quite good for the last series. SO THERE.

Attacking Friends is honestly one of the laziest things it’s possible to say about comedy. Is it the best sitcom ever? Of course not. Is it edgy or challenging? Not in the slightest. Is it very, very funny at times? Yes. Are the cast all better than people give them credit for? Yes.

I can honestly name you about fifty sitcoms that are worse than Friends.

[Tyrell Corporation]

As we call can, but Friends somehow captured the imaginations of an increasingly jaded population in the 90’s. A hip young group of people who imbued all the sheer nonsense and hipster New York living we all apparantly aspired to.

I may be talking bollocks, my heart isn’t in it, I just ate a Valentine’s takeaway and it has gave me near-terminal stomach pains.

[John Hoare]

Attacking Friends is honestly one of the laziest things it?s possible to say about comedy. Is it the best sitcom ever? Of course not. Is it edgy or challenging? Not in the slightest. Is it very, very funny at times? Yes. Are the cast all better than people give them credit for? Yes.

This.

[Carlito]

Friends was an enjoyable show during its first series, a VERY enjoyable show during its second series… and wildly inconsistent beyond that (although series 5 was pretty good too). I gave up on it before the last series… to my recollection, the only show I have ever loved early on and given up on before the end (although I have kinda been slack on Scrubs during the last year or so).

[JamesTC]

I guess I should be quiet since I have Freinds Season 1-10 right infront of me. It was a good show up till season 6, after that it was hit and miss with episodeswith a few too many misses but still over all a watchable show and now and again very enjoyable, the last episode was not that good but it was never going to be as good as you would have hoped, same for Seinfeld (though I think Seinfeld’s last episode was better than people say).
Anybody who watches ‘The One Where No One’s Ready’ and still says it is not funny is just stuck up.

[Tyrell Corporation]

The last Seinfeld was a fucking disaster, regardless of how ironic it was meant to be.

[Seb Patrick]

>Anybody who watches ?The One Where No One?s Ready? and still says it is not funny is just stuck up.

Actually, this.

[pfm]

Friends was definitely funny at one stage, but IMO the humour only accounted for around 5% of the reason why most people watched it, whereas with Dwarf I would say it’s more like 50% comedy 50% everything else.

Seinfeld was far far better because it was so bold and the COMEDY was the focus, and yet it DID start to go wayward by season 6 (not that it was BAD. Only the odd few in 8 and 9 were really terrible). Seasons 3, 4 and 5 are pure brilliance though, along with a handful of earlier episodes like ‘The Pony Remark’ and ‘The Chinese Restaurant’. I love episodes like ‘The Parking Garage’ where they built a whole floor of a multi-storey car park (parking garage…) on the soundstage! Also the one where they’re on the trains and a lot of the episode is you just hearing their thoughts (can’t remember the name of it, it might be ‘The Subway’ though, that’d make sense).

[hummingbird]

> What happened to just typing in your top five episodes?
> Everybody does that, mark totals for each episode, publish, then complain.

Great idea, but I don’t know if I could narrow it down to five.
How about we rate every ep from, say, one to ten, and then score the eps that way?
Or something like that.

Either way, we do need a fan poll.

[Seb Patrick]

I think Total Red Dwarf should run one.

[Andrew]

> Friends was definitely funny at one stage, but IMO the humour only accounted for around 5% of the reason why most people watched it

IMO this is utter drivel.

[pfm]

I think there should be a ‘Not at all’ ‘To some extent’ ‘Very much so’ ‘Don’t know’ questionnaire.

[JamesTC]

>Friends was definitely funny at one stage, but IMO the humour only accounted for around 5% of the reason why most people watched it
What was the 95% reason for people watching it, all the people who watch it who I know watch it because it is funny, funnily enough they are all big Dwarf fans (though not as big as me)

[locusceruleus]

I’ve noticed a lot of snobbery from some UK sitcom fans where Friends is concerned. No big deal.

I thought seasons 1-3 were great, then after that, 5 and 7 (‘The One Where They’re Up All Night’, or something like that, was a great bottle show – in fact, these episodes were usually the best imo). The other seasons had their moments.

>Friends was definitely funny at one stage, but IMO the humour only accounted for around 5% of the reason why most people watched it.

You must have surveyed some pretty bizarre people to come to that conclusion.

[pfm]

OK 5% is an exaggeration, but take away Jennifer Aniston and the will-they-won’t-they-well-they-did-but-then-they-were-on-a-break-and-that-bint-from-Cold-Feet etc etc Ross/Rachel fiasco and that’s the end of MOST of the interest in the show.

Friends was always sold with the good-looking cast angle, then the whole Rachel hairstyle thing, coupled with the fact that she was fucking Brad Pitt, helped propel that into the stratosphere. Obviously that’s not why EVERYONE who watched it watched it, but it’s what made it such a massive show. There’s no dispute whether it was funny or not because it blatantly WAS.

[Carlito]

It was huge before Aniston was fucking Pitt.

It was pretty big even before Aniston got the famous haircut.

It was big because it was really funny… for the first couple of years, anyway.

[Tyrell Corporation]

It was a cast of unknowns. Young, brazenly beautiful and all endorsed the emerging 90’s New York lifestyle and played out their character quirks to the full for the first two series.

The writing was good and the storylines had a natural flow to them.

By seasons seven and eight, they were playing themselves in their 30’s still trying to pretend they were in their 20’s. The female cast members had become tanned, drastically thin, quite disturbing looking creatures and the men became, tanned, recently released from rehab, slightly plump sods who clearly wanted movie careers and were locked into this lumbering, dying beast that used to be funny called ‘Friends’.

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