Almost XIII news

[International Debris]

Doug just tweeted this:

Scientists have spotted repeating radio signals 1.5 billion light years into deep space directed at Earth. According to SETEE the signal is in an algorithmic rhythmic communication system which appears to translate as: ’13 – when? 13 -when? Don’t make us invade.’ #RedDwarf.

Scientists have spotted repeating radio signals 1.5 billion light years into deep space directed at Earth. According to SETEE the signal is in an algorithmic rhythmic communication system which appears to translate as: ‘13 – when? 13 -when? Don’t make us invade.’ #RedDwarf.

— Doug Naylor (@DougRDNaylor) January 9, 2019

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[Dave]

I don’t think it’s outside the realms of possibility that Series XIII is on the way, that formal arrangements are already being made behind the scenes, and that it just hasn’t been officially announced yet.

Comparing it to the movie just seems unrealistic – like actively willing it to not happen.

In a week where we’ve been pleasantly surprised by a new project that was (largely) successfully kept under wraps, I think it’s worth bearing in mind that just because we don’t know all the details for ourselves yet, it doesn’t mean nothing is happening.

[(deleted)]

Of course I want it to happen. I just don’t think it’s the certain bet everybody else does. The commission is not confirmed, therefore it’s still a *proposal* for a thirteenth series. That’s not negativity, it’s just perspective.

[Dave]

That we know of.

[(deleted)]

Well, that’s kind of what a confirmation is.

[Dave]

My point is that you have to take into account the fact that there may be things going on that we aren’t aware of.

If you assume that you’re in possession of all the facts when you’re not, then you’re going to inevitably draw the wrong conclusions.

A week ago, before the AA ad came out, we could have been having this exact same conversation about how impossible it would have been for new footage to come out on Monday when no filming had been done; It turned out it had been, we just didn’t know about it.

Without acknowledging that fans don’t have all the facts, and that we aren’t privy to what’s going on behind-the-scenes with Red Dwarf at the moment, you could end up drawing all sorts of false conclusions like a Red Dwarf stage show being the only possible reason why the cast might be getting together, as we had in another thread.

[pfm]

Tbf at one stage they DID think they were very close indeed to having the movie greenlit.

[(deleted)]

And we also had readthrough photos, pictures of Robert being lifecast, a preorder Amazon page for the tie-in book, and a teaser poster, on top of everything that what we’re getting now about XIII is echoing. They were always “in pre-production” or “about to start shooting.” For about 5 years.

I’ve been burned before. I have no shame in staying pessimistic on this. To be proven wrong will be all the more pleasing if I am, but I couldn’t be more sceptical right now. Maybe some fans are too young to have fully lived through the full 3D heartbreak of the broken Movie promises, or have forgotten it

[(deleted)]

(I will happily concede that both the BBC buyout of UKTV and the exposure from the AA ad make XIII more likely to happen, but that doesn’t change the fact that RD is not only not actively within a rolling commission, but enough time has passed since XII wrapped to effectively give XIII the pitch status of a ‘revival’ rather than a continuation.)

I want series 13. Don’t get me wrong on this. I just don’t see it.

[cwickham]

I think the Amazon page for the Movie tie-in book is *still* up, all these years later.

[Dax101]

Who says Doug doesn’t still have it planned to make the movie? :P

[Bezzy]

I still believe Doug intends to end Red Dwarf completely with either a movie or a feature length episode.

XIII … maybe a XIV and end with a feature length XV

:) I can dream

[pfm]

> but enough time has passed since XII wrapped to effectively give XIII the pitch status of a ‘revival’ rather than a continuation.

Pitch your arse.

[(deleted)]

?

[Ben Saunders]

Darrel’s Arse RETURNS, brand new and exclusive to Dave, the home of shitty banter.

[(deleted)]

Maybe I shouldn’t have bothered coming back.

[Ian Symes]

enough time has passed since XII wrapped to effectively give XIII the pitch status of a ‘revival’ rather than a continuation

I share your concern that we’re heading in that direction, but I don’t think we’re quite there yet. – it may have been a while since the show was in production, but the broadcast of XII is still recent enough to classify as a continuation, if XIII were to be shown next year. Don’t forget there was a full four years between X and XI, and XII was only 2017. I was almost as pessimistic as you for a good while, so I know where you’re coming from, but the latest flurry of activity has thawed me a little.

[(deleted)]

I’ve not *not* thawed, but I still think not getting a recommission within 12 months of XII is a very big deal that no-one’s really processed. We did literally get axed, in a way that’s different from the ‘Dave want more, but we need to go back to the drawing board’ limbos of BtE and X. And we did lose the two biggest reasons XI/XII happened at all in the shape of Normal and Waddell. That’s a lot of injuries. I think my rationale in being so downbeat is correct even if my interpretation might be seen as excessive. (And I do think I’m right about the merch situation and botched anniversary too…)

I’ll be honest though, I was amazed when XI and XII got announced. For a while, X seemed like a pipe dream. I just can’t get the blank horror of 2008 out of my head, that’s what it is. It was the biggest ‘please clear out your lockers, lads’ we’ve ever had, and it remains my internal default for how to view RD production activity. On top of that the Movie stuff has trained me to assume everything is a bluff, wishful thinking and/or a downright lie. I’m always gobsmacked and delighted when new Red Dwarf makes it to screen at all.

And we all get surprised when something as ordinary as an ad on the tube appears, as though it shouldn’t really be there at all somehow and it’s some kind of backhanded trick. We’re all to some extent radicalised against expecting high competency from GNP. I think I’m just being a bit rawer in my relationship to this.

Best analogy is, even now we’re like a really shit football team that very rarely wins or scores. The times we win are joyous occasions, but expecting to lose is the healthiest way of getting through a Saturday afternoon.

[si]

The times we win are joyous occasions, but expecting to lose is the healthiest way of getting through a Saturday afternoon.</bloockquote>

Welcome to life as a Sheffield United supporter.

[si]

Oh, fuck that.

[Stephen Abootman]

>I will happily concede that both the BBC buyout of UKTV and the exposure from the AA ad make XIII more likely to happen

Plus Dave’s advert for moving channel where they got the model unit in and the blurb on their corporate website that says “It’s not just in front of the camera where the comic genius lies either, with a wealth of scripted treasure such as Sliced, Porters and the globally popular Red Dwarf” [2 shows that aired new episodes in the last 3 months and one that aired a year and a half ago] suggests they very much regard Dwarf as an active concern (I don’t see them promoting repeats of Top Gear or Zapped alongside all their new shows for instance).

[Stephen Abootman]

Update https://metro.co.uk/2019/09/10/danny-john-jules-admits-not-everyone-signed-new-red-dwarf-series-10717026/

“Danny John-Jules says Red Dwarf is ‘waiting to get everyone signed up’. With the four leads having their own work commitments, including Danny’s one man show I’ve Got To Be Me, there’s a bit of jostling going on to bring everyone on board. But fans of the sci-fi show needn’t worry, the show is on track to return once the cast is locked in. Speaking to Metro.co.uk at the TV Choice Awards on Monday night, he said of the new series: ‘It’s gonna be funny. ‘We’re just waiting for the ink and the stamps to go down. ‘I’m doing my one-man show so I’m not really concentrating on Red Dwarf. I’m not in Cat mode because I can do that like a light switch.

‘Right now it’s about trying to get everybody signed up.’

He added that no one has seen a script or any potential ideas for new episodes yet, and asked if there is anything he would like to see happen to his character, Danny is fine just to go with the flow. The actor told us: ‘I never ask anybody to write anything. I never have in 31 years. I’ve never asked for more lines. ‘When my character was the smallest I never asked for a bigger part. Why tamper with success?’

So what does he think is the key to Red Dwarf’s ongoing success? Danny, 59, insisted: ‘The key is talent. Showbiz. That’s what we’re here for, so every single person should be on that road, otherwise why are we here? ‘The actors are all dedicated to their characters and that’s why it works. There’s not any magic. ‘You don’t see us all hanging out at the pub every week. Why do you not see photos of all the Red Dwarf cast together? We’ve been in the show 31 years. Because we’re all individuals.’ Hopefully those individuals can get their acts together to bring us another hilarious series.”

[Pete Part Three]

Ah shit. Danny’s talking to journalists again.

[Ian Symes]

But he’s the only cast member so far to do so with a realistic appraisal of the current status.

[GlenTokyo]

I’m sure I read on a Red Dwarf Facebook group a couple of weeks back that Craig confirmed it on I think, Sara Cox’s show.

[Lily]

It must get frustrating for the guys to be constantly asked about Dwarf when they’re busy trying to pimp out whatever it is they’re currently working on.

[Pete Part Three]

Even more frustrating when it’s Danny, who is his own worst publicist. It’s bad enough when he gets ‘misquoted’, it’s worse when they just lift what he says verbatim and it just reads as nonsense.

‘The key is talent.’
[Cringe]

‘Showbiz. That’s what we’re here for, so every single person should be on that road, otherwise why are we here?’
Every single person on the planet should be in showbiz to justify their existence? What does this even mean?

‘The actors are all dedicated to their characters and that’s why it works.’
That’s not why Red Dwarf works. That’s just how good actors work.

‘There’s not any magic’.
OK..?

“You don’t see us all hanging out at the pub every week. Why do you not see photos of all the Red Dwarf cast together?”
Because you all hate each other? Because the media isn’t interested?

“We’ve been in the show 31 years. Because we’re all individuals.’
And professionalism is…and that is what I want

[RamesesNiblickTheThird]

“Ah shit. Danny’s talking to journalists again.”

Send the bin men around.

*Allegedly

[Hamish]

Thing is, you do see pictures of the cast together. Getting a curry for instance.

[RamesesNiblickTheThird]

“Thing is, you do see pictures of the cast together. Getting a curry for instance.”

….in 1963?

[Moonlight]

Well, at least it seems pretty much confirmed that we’ll _eventually_ get a 13th series. Y’know, one of these days. I’m gonna go out on a limb and suggest this could be the big one, the last ever, so we should probably start setting up the for the eventual Chromium Canvass poll that will be the show’s legacy.

Still, you have to admit, 1988-202? is a pretty decent run.

[International Debris]

An astonishing -1786 years!

[Quinn: Clochebusters World Champion]

It’s perfectly consistent with current theory. Everything starts with a Big Bang, right? And the universe starts expanding. Eventually, when it’s expanded as far as it can, there’s a big crunch, right? And everything starts contracting. Perfectly possible that time starts running in the opposite direction, as well.

[(deleted)]

You know guys, I’m starting to think I may have been right all along.

[Dave]

About Cat’s new teeth definitely being for a Red Dwarf stage show?

[(deleted)]

And repeated apologies for the huge error I made in assuming that a comedy team that announces plans to go on tour might actually do that within five bastard years of saying so. I’ve learned my lesson now.

The lesson I am currently learning btw is remaining credulous at the idea that the four main cast members of Red Dwarf are triple-A-listers in such high demand that it’s nigh-on impossible to book them through for six weeks and requires a triage period of several years. Like they’re the Beatles in 1976.

[RamesesNiblickTheThird]

Doug is working with Rob again is the reason for the delay.

*But don’t quote me on that.

[clem]

Today’s TOS update is just about Craig’s many DJ gigs between now and the end of the year, but it ends like this: “Phew. With all of this, it’s a wonder he ever finds the time for anything else…”

…

[Stephen Abootman]

Yes, we start making Red Dwarf XIII in November.

— Robert Llewellyn (@bobbyllew) September 24, 2019

the November start date still on for now it seems

[International Debris]

I wonder if that’s when pre-production starts, with audience shoots in the new year.

[Quinn: Clochebusters World Champion]

They would have officially announced and done the tickets by now surely if that was really the case. November is only 6 weeks away.

[Dave]

As part of secrecy measures they’re not doing tickets this time. Instead they’re pursuing a bold new strategy of waking randomly-selected Red Dwarf fans in their beds at 3am and shipping them to the studio to watch the clandestine recordings.

[MANI506]

In the XII documentary the Naylors were suggesting extra rehearsal time so my nostradamus prediction is that we’ll see recordings spread between December and February with two weeks between each one.

[Quinn: Clochebusters World Champion]

Maybe after all the call backs to earlier series, with the final two episodes having very specific The End/Series 1 references, maybe Doug is going to take it to the extreme and, rather than release tickets, go and round people up from the pubs an hour before recording so that the audience is filled with half drunk people that don’t know what’s going on.

[Dave]

Or it’s going to be produced in homage to Series VII.

[Pete Part Three]

I can think of less appropriate things to homage.

[si]

Saw this earlier, and got all excited thinking the Tweet was from UKTV. And it’s not, it’s just RTing Robert’s ‘November’ Tweet mentioned further up.

New Red Dwarf coming soon! #RedDwarf https://t.co/53pu2PXSip

— UK Christmas TV (@UKChristmasTV) September 29, 2019

[Moonlight]

New theory:

Rob Grant returns to Red Dwarf, but he and Doug go back and forth each writing every other line without any plan or communication.

[Pete Part Three]

CONSEQUENCES AND PARLOUR GAMES

Rob and Doug take turns writing sentences in a script, folding the piece of paper before passing in on. When the subsequent episode hangs together slightly better than Dear Dave, they consider it a pleasing success.

Sorry. Wong thread.

[Dave]

More evidence today that there’s definitely no new Red Dwarf happening.

[Ian Symes]

To be fair, the fact that new Red Dwarf is happening now doesn’t necessarily invalidate any statements made prior to now.

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