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  • #4969
    Seb Patrick
    Keymaster

    So, this is where you’re allowed to talk about anything relating to Doctor Who, even if it’s illicitly-obtained information that isn’t general public knowledge yet. If discussion brings you on to the original series (or earlier RTD episodes) then don’t feel you have to suddenly move over to the other thread – but if you’re only talking about existing episodes then please go over there.

    When we left off, we were talking about these photos and these photos. To wit :

    … go nuts.

    #104064
    Ridley
    Participant

    First thought looking at that picture was being glad the bow tie look may be a one-off, then realised that’s Tennant’s costume isn’t it? :(

    #104065
    Pete Part Three
    Participant

    Because after you’ve died and regenerated, you’ve just gotta have a Cornetto.

    #104069
    si
    Participant

    He’s not looking after it well, is he?

    #104075
    redhead85
    Participant

    > Because after you?ve died and regenerated, you?ve just gotta have a Cornetto.

    Cornettos rock. You see Ed eating one in ‘Shaun of the Dead’ just after they’ve bludgeoned the zombies in their garden to death. Yum.

    #104076
    Andrew
    Participant

    Large amounts of cash on there being a Moffat-y dialogue run about the length of that skirt.

    #104100

    I can’t be the only one who thinks that blue lolly has got the right idea.

    #104111
    si
    Participant

    New logo:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/logo/index.shtml

    What do we think?

    Interesting, if nothing else.

    #104112
    JamesTC
    Participant

    I liked the one at the end of it, sorta like the Pertwee one, the other version which is in the shape of the TARDIS well, that isn’t very good. Still it is better than a flying turd.

    #104113
    si
    Participant

    Actually, I like the TARDIS shaped one. That’s just crying out for a t-shirt.

    (surely we’re alright to embed one here, in the spoilers thread? Okay, here we go:)

    #104114
    Pete Part Three
    Participant

    I’m not sure about the text, but I like the TARDIS insignia. It’s the most consistent mainstay of the show, so it makes sense to use it here.

    #104116
    Michael Warren
    Participant

    I look forward to new episodes of DOCTON WHO in 2010…

    #104118
    Ian Symes
    Keymaster

    (surely we?re alright to embed one here, in the spoilers thread? Okay, here we go:)

    Technically you could/should have embedded it in the other thread – things that have been officially released by the production team aren’t classed as spoilers. This thread is for paparazzi shots and rumours and the like, the other is for things the production team want us to know.

    #104119
    si
    Participant

    Well, I just didn’t want to fall foul of you and your staff, mein fuhrer.

    #104121
    Seb Patrick
    Keymaster

    What are you doing in this thread anyway, given that the other one was created for YOUR BENEFIT?

    #104122
    Seb Patrick
    Keymaster

    >I look forward to new episodes of DOCTON WHO in 2010?

    That only works if you assume they’re mixing upper and lowercase letters. Which they’re not, because they’re not twats.

    #104123
    si
    Participant

    From Graham Linehan’s Twitter feed:

    No, no, no! The new Doctor Who logo is TERRIBLE! Have you seen it? http://yfrog.com/7ho63j

    (hint – follow the link)

    #104124
    Seb Patrick
    Keymaster

    By the way, the logo is all kinds of win. Especially the TARDIS thing.

    #104127
    Michael Warren
    Participant

    >I look forward to new episodes of DOCTON WHO in 2010?

    That only works if you assume they?re mixing upper and lowercase letters. Which they?re not, because they?re not twats.

    A good font should make each letter distinctive enough to eliminate any possibility of confusion with another though, no?

    It was also a joke…

    #104128
    JamesTC
    Participant

    I think the thing about this logo and the TARDIS version is that they are so much more practical than the previous one, maybe not as recognisable though. By practical I mean that you won’t have to squish it all up to fit it on the 7 billionth figure of Tennant.

    #104132
    TheLeen
    Participant

    I like it better than the previous one. But that wasn’t such a hard task to achieve.

    It would be better without the lense flare. Lense flares are stupidly nineties.

    Not sure why the tardigram is there at all, but okay… well. After initial resenting I figured I don’t actually mind it much. Except for the lense flare. God do I hate lense flare.

    #104133
    Andrew
    Participant

    It’s good. It’s all good. And I propose the full adoption of the term Tardigram.

    #104134
    Dave
    Participant

    Seconded.

    #104137
    Seb Patrick
    Keymaster

    I’m baffled by the people (not here, but elsewhere) assuming the Tardigram (yes, adopting it as well) is a permanent part of the logo, and that it’s always going to be laid out like that – and thus complaining that it looks “uncentred”.

    Surely those are two different logos to be used, either independently or together, in various situations? I highly doubt the Tardigram will even be seen onscreen…

    #104139
    Dave
    Participant

    One of things I liked about the RTD era logo was that it took the emphasis off the word WHO, but this puts it right back.

    #104141
    TheLeen
    Participant

    Good point there, actually

    #104142
    Michael Warren
    Participant

    Surely those are two different logos to be used, either independently or together, in various situations? I highly doubt the Tardigram will even be seen onscreen?

    Actually, I’m imagining a title sequence which starts as the new logo video does – the Tardigram fading in – then turning into the TARDIS, which spins and opens its doors into a vortex effect, through Smith’s face, ending up with the new logo…

    #104143
    si
    Participant

    Actually, I?m imagining a title sequence which starts as the new logo video does – the Tardigram fading in – then turning into the TARDIS, which spins and opens its doors into a vortex effect, through Smith?s face, ending up with the new logo?

    Sorry, I’m not.

    #104151
    Seb Patrick
    Keymaster

    Well, okay, it might be used in some way – but the point is, no way is that image going to be the show’s title card.

    #104152
    Seb Patrick
    Keymaster

    I love the Moff :

    Steven Moffat, the new Lead Writer and Executive Producer, said: “A new logo. The 11th logo for the 11th Doctor ? those grand old words, Doctor Who, suddenly looking newer than ever.

    “And, look at that, something really new ? an insignia! DW in TARDIS form! Simple and beautiful, and most important of all, a completely irresistible doodle.

    “I apologise to school notebooks everywhere, because in 2010 that’s what they’re going to be wearing.”

    #104157
    JamesTC
    Participant

    I would have thought the Tardigram would be used for merchandise were it is better to leave more room for what the product is! Certainly something like DVD and book spines would be an ideal place for it.

    #104159
    Somebody
    Participant

    Actually, I bet the DW “Tardigram” WILL be in the title card. And I kind of like it like that.

    I think if they were genuinely separate, they’d probably have been presented differently. (Which isn’t to say you’ll NEVER see one or the other presented separately, just that I think “together” is the default)

    #104166
    Tarka Dal
    Participant

    Look no offence like, new logo, ‘Tardigram’ or whatever you want to call it, but have we really exhausted all talk of Karen Gillan’s outfit allready!?

    #104169
    Andrew
    Participant

    Odd as it might be, I’m sorta waiting to see the girl act and emote and stuff.

    #104172
    si
    Participant

    >Odd as it might be, I?m sorta waiting to see the girl act and emote and stuff.

    Pfft.

    #104179

    Why wonder if she can act when you can fantasise about having her in an ice-cream van? Can I have a 99 please??

    #104181
    Danny Stephenson
    Keymaster

    Can I have a 99 please??

    Now, take that number and subtract 30 and then you’ll have your golden number :)

    #104184
    redhead85
    Participant

    Oh.dear.lordy.

    Just read out your comments to my husband and he added “well she is a nice bit of ginger biscuit, isn’t she?”

    #104186
    ChrisM
    Participant

    Hmm.

    Doctor and Sarah Jane again.

    Not breaking news, but nice.

    #104191

    > Just read out your comments to my husband and he added ?well she is a nice bit of ginger biscuit, isn?t she??

    My girlfriend reckons she’s gonna ban me from watching the series. This after I’ve had to put up with her drooling over that lanky streak of nothing Tennant for the past 2 years! She’s not into Matt Smith, thank god. That’s what she says anyway. I thought the ripped suit might change her mind but she’s like ‘no, how dare he wear David’ suit!’

    #104221
    redhead85
    Participant

    Yep I definitely think this is revenge for men everywhere having to suffer in Tennant’s shadow. I reckon I could take her though – she looks skinny enough….

    #104222
    Seb Patrick
    Keymaster

    “Take” her.

    #104228
    redhead85
    Participant

    First one….then t’other…

    #104242
    si
    Participant

    Brilliant post on the Doctor Who Magazine Facebook page:

    David Farmbrough (London) wrote 2 hours ago

    The BBC today confirmed that the forthcoming series of Doctor Who, its 31st, will be recorded exclusively in black and white. Executive producer Steven Moffat confirmed ?to be honest, we feel now that colour was an 80s and 90s fad, and that a different feel was needed. Everyone thought I was barmy when I first suggested it, but to be honest, it will save a lot of time in the tone meetings (Grey) and it?s the only way we can get away with another ginger companion?.

    Speaking from his pool in Beverly Hills, former producer Russell T. Davies said ?It?s Steven?s baby now, I?ve moved on. But I really wish I?d thought of it first. Trust Steven Moffat to come up with something as brilliant and bonkers as that!?.

    New Doctor Who, Matt Smith, 10, said ?obviously I wasn?t around to remember black and white television, but everyone says the black and white days of Doctor Who are way better than the colour ones?. Eagle-eyed fans (or at least those with telephoto lenses) had spotted Smith?s black and white costume in some location filming, and the BBC?s unveiling of a monochrome logo earlier this week confirmed fan suspicions

    A BBC Spokesman said viewers would need special adaptor boxes to watch the series, as it marked their much-publicised return to the old 405 line format, They also said that they had preliminarily scheduled the wanton destruction of the video tapes for March 2015.

    ;)

    #104248
    Seb Patrick
    Keymaster

    “Brilliant”.

    #104249
    Kris Carter
    Participant

    I think he missed a trick by not having Matt Smith’s age be 11, but hey, what’re y’gonna do. :)

    #104250
    Jonathan Capps
    Keymaster

    > ?Brilliant?.

    Oh, come on, the (presumably) fake Moffat quote is very strong.

    #104252
    Dave
    Participant

    Well I thought it was funny.

    #104286
    si
    Participant
    #104290
    JamesTC
    Participant

    >I want to be 10 again.

    Yeh well you are stuck as Matt now.

    #105141
    JamesTC
    Participant
    #105146
    si
    Participant

    Oh. That’s not so bad, not as much of a radical change as I was expecting. Sort of half old, half new, from the looks of things.

    #105151
    littlesmegger
    Participant

    It’s a bit ‘Tennant meets McGann’ by looks of it… the coral walls with the period stairs, ceiling etc.

    Shall have to see what the actual controls look like though. They get the most airtime, so they’ll be the most detailed.

    #105152
    JamesTC
    Participant

    According to some reports a reptile alien has been seen on set, some say it is a Silurian, some say it isn’t, I bet it is the Rani, they are all the Rani in the end.

    #105157
    Alex
    Participant

    According to some reports a reptile alien has been seen on set, some say it is a Silurian, some say it isn?t.

    Looks like something new to me:
    http://i595.photobucket.com/albums/tt32/doctorwhonews/filming/october2009/stgwynnoschurch-filming-091021-sf-6.jpg

    #105162
    JamesTC
    Participant

    I still say it is the Rani, in disguise.

    #105163
    Dave
    Participant

    It’s a Kraal

    #105171
    Ben Paddon
    Participant

    Double-A, actually!

    #105172
    Plastic Percy
    Participant

    Interestingly, the photo of the new TARDIS interior is a closeup of an image that includes the TARDIS Police Box shell itself.

    What’s interesting specifically is that the prop they used for that scene is the old one from the Eccleston/Tennant Era and not the new prop seen in the first location images featuring the 11th Doctor and Amy. This to me implies that either the 10th Doctor recieves a new Control Room set as a Christmas prezzie, or the 11th Doctor alters the interior before altering the outer shell of the machine itself.

    #105173
    Tarka Dal
    Participant

    I didn’t think the Doctor could change the outer appearance, I thought it was fused shut? Yes I know that the appearance does change from Doctor to Doctor, but I thought that was just down to production design and continuity.

    #105182
    Plastic Percy
    Participant

    I assume that too Karl, but with all the rumours flying around about the TARDIS being destroyed and rebuilt/regrown by the Doctor does make me think we’ll get an excuse for the change in the TARDIS prop. I’m not bothered one way or another though.

    #105190
    littlesmegger
    Participant

    Yeah there’s talk that in the first episodes story there’s a point where 10 years pass, where in that point a new TARDIS is grown…and voila, he grows a St John’s Ambulance sticker and some white windows!

    #105193
    JamesTC
    Participant

    Yeh, it started in about 1996 (I think, it said something about a new Nintendo console on a board in the background) and then it was present day.

    #105215
    Plastic Percy
    Participant

    I think it’d be fun if the Doctor bumped into Amy for the first time in a queue at B&Q, picking up some MDF and blue paint to rebuild the TARDIS.

    I wonder if he’d try and take advantage of the over 60’s discount.

    #105238
    Tarka Dal
    Participant

    > with all the rumours flying around about the TARDIS being destroyed and rebuilt/regrown by the Doctor does make me think we?ll get an excuse for the change in the TARDIS prop

    Can people post these types of rumours in this thread plz! I had no idea.

    #105253
    JamesTC
    Participant
    #105282
    Tarka Dal
    Participant

    *quivers*

    #105408
    Jonsmad
    Participant

    So The Doctor is back on TV today (29th/30th), with Sarah Jane and K9 (who for anyone who’s not watching kids TV is now back in the attic after the black hole that was keeping him mostly away was taken by an Alien ship for power last week, freeing him up to return home, much to the dismay of the computer that lives in the wall it would seem.)

    #105424
    ChrisM
    Participant

    Today, eh? I’ll have to grab it on I-player.

    I’ve caught up on the rest of this series on the web. Quite enjoyable! Especially the last 2 parter. Interesting that the ship’s energy problems were resolved by something I thought a load of rubbish when it appeared in the first series. And it worked.

    I’m not really a fan of K-9 though. Still… we’ll see.

    #105428

    > `http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s110/Scootyboy/24th%20October%20-%20D…

    Oh, it’s all happening… So, er, what does everyone think about the pedestrianisation of Norwich city centre?

    #105439
    Alex
    Participant

    I’ll be honest, I’m dead against it. People forget that traders need access to DIIIIIII-XONS!

    #105456
    Jonsmad
    Participant

    The next special is airing on Sunday the 15th of November.

    #105457
    JamesTC
    Participant

    According to an insider the Ice Warriors appear in it but half way through turn into the Rani who then is unmasked as a puppet of the Cybermen whose creation were manipulated by the Ood to lead to the events in the story happening, plus the Ood were created by the Rani and the Rani is the Doctors mother on his human side and the Master is his father.

    Sounds good.

    But really I like the hints up to now that the Doctor is turning a bit different, almost rogue going by the hints, maybe he will finally be the no second chances Doctor!

    #105466

    After seeing Tennant’s appearance in SJA I think it’s safe to say even I will be shedding a tear when he goes (though obviously not as many as I was doing over Sarah Jane during the latter parts of this episode. ‘Mr. Smith, I need you…’ good one, Mr. Roberts)

    #105468
    Ben Paddon
    Participant

    Gareth Roberts is definitely one of my favourites stories this year. Certainly it’s better than Planet of the Dead.

    #105469
    JamesTC
    Participant

    He is writing a two-parter in Series One according to his CV.

    #105471

    > Series One

    *openly weeps*

    #105473
    JamesTC
    Participant

    Moffat has stated they called it Series One because Series 5 sounds like an ageing brand (which is odd considering the fact that it is nearly 50 years old).
    You can call it what you like, Season 31, Series 5, but I will call it what it is actually called, now I have to go and watch ‘The Daleks’ and ‘The Edge of Destruction’ and ‘Rivers Run’.

    #105474
    Jonsmad
    Participant

    I will call it Moffat Who until he goes.

    #105478
    Seb Patrick
    Keymaster

    >He is writing a two-parter in Series One according to his CV.

    It’s not a given that it’s a two parter, though, it just says “two episodes”. Bear in mind they seem to be stockpiling scripts for two series, because there are clearly more writers known (if not announced) to be down for Moffat’s era than would actually fit in. I know of at least a couple of others who are definitely writing, but no-one seems to have a handle on exactly what’s being used when.

    Also, our website isn’t always correct ;-)

    #105479
    JamesTC
    Participant

    Yeh, it isn’t confirmed as a two-parter.
    I really do hope they are stockpiling scripts for Series Two, I heard Rob Shearman has written a script and he is such a good writer, if it wern’t to appear in Series One then it would in Series Two. Come on Rob write another classic, you have already done it four times (‘Jubilee’, ‘The Holy Terror’, ‘The Chimes of Midnight’ and ‘Dalek’).

    #105480
    JamesTC
    Participant

    Oh and it was confirmed by the Moff that he is writing 6 episodes in the new series, the same amount as he written for the previous 4 series, wonder if they can be of the same quality as the previous 6 being that they arn’t spread out. He is also currently writing episode 13.

    #105484
    Tarka Dal
    Participant

    He managed 6 rather awesome ones for Jekyll.

    #105488
    Dave
    Participant

    >but I will call it what it is actually called

    Twat

    #105490
    JamesTC
    Participant

    Doctor Who: Twat
    Starring Matt Smith and Karen Gillan.
    Written by Stephen Moffat.

    #105497
    Andrew
    Participant

    So Moffat’s been on, speaking all kinds of sense:

    http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/tv/s7/doctorwho/tubetalk/a184561/steven-moffat-talks-doctor-who-future.html

    Personal favourites include:

    “You don?t write the show for box set geeks because these are the sorts of people who will buy them whatever. It is more of a challenge writing for the casual viewer who may not be watching the show every week but who must still understand what is going on.” (Precis rather than direct quote.)

    “Nobody does themes. It?s a lie. Who have your heard say ‘I?ve thought of a good theme?’ They happen accidently. You repeat yourself once too often and so it becomes a theme.”

    #105563
    Petetranterssister
    Participant

    When is the Dr who special on? i know its in november but i cant remember the date!

    #105565
    Ben Paddon
    Participant

    November 15th in the UK, December 19th in the US.

    #105567
    Petetranterssister
    Participant

    Oooh on a sunday eh, deffo need to get a sunday roast on and few glasses of wine and make a real occasion of it i LOVE Dr Who and it seems like i have been waiting for this special for agggeesss!

    #105569
    Ben Paddon
    Participant

    Yeah, it’s been a bit of a long gap. From what I hear though, it’s worth the wait.

    #105570
    Petetranterssister
    Participant

    *Excited* i need to make the most of david tenant whilst hes still here!! It will be a bit strange without any of the usual side kicks in it though.

    Now i just need a new series of torchwood to come about and im all set for a while:D

    #105602
    Alex
    Participant
    #105621
    redhead85
    Participant

    boohoo! I’ll be on holiday when it airs – post on here and let me know what it’s like!!

    #105626
    JamesTC
    Participant

    It was pretty good. Shame that it had to end with that giant duck knocking 4 times asking for oasis.

    #105631
    Ben Paddon
    Participant

    Is the trailer on YouTube yet? I looked earlier and I couldn’t find it.

    #105635
    JamesTC
    Participant

    Youtube is for slow people – http://blogtorwho.blogspot.com/

    #105672
    ChrisM
    Participant

    I didn’t know about the Dreamland animation. Looks interesting.

    #105679
    JamesTC
    Participant

    From what I have seen from the ‘Dreamland’ animation it looks good and bad, the voice work is top notch (David Tennant and Voice work = epic win) but the animation looks over ambitious and just not very good, still the animation isn’t what will make the story, it is the acting and writing that will and we shall see what that is like, up to now I think it looks promising.

    #105865
    Julian Hazeldine
    Participant

    The thing that’s puzzling me about Dreamland is the slot they’ve decided to put it out in. It’s understandable that they want to maintain momentum for the show during the final month and a half of the RTD era, but putting it out between Waters and the finale seems strange, given that those two stories are supposed to be a three-parter. Given the references in the first story of the present SJAs, it might have made more sense if it had immediately followed ‘The Wedding of Sarah Jane Smith’.

    #105867
    Jonathan Capps
    Keymaster

    Apparently the actual story of Dreamland is set between Waters and Time, but the more I think about it the more that seems like bobbins.

    Hello, Julian.

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