Mundane observation dome

[Moonlight]

[Technopeasant]

[Moonlight]

I can’t remember if I’ve pointed this out before, and I know nobody likes talking about Timewave, but I’m like 95% sure the inner critics in jars is a parody of the homunculi from The Bride of Frankenstein.


A bunch of little guys in jars. This is exactly the kind of high profile classic film reference Red Dwarf liked in the old days.

[Warbodog]

There didn’t turn out to be any cryptic quiz questions in this, so I’ll just share the nice trivia of Times Red Dwarf and Doctor Who Broadcast New Episodes In The Same Week (once On The Same Day – remember that?):

4/10/1988 Queeg

5/10/1988 Remembrance of the Daleks, Part One

11/10/1988 Parallel Universe

12/10/1988 Remembrance of the Daleks, Part Two

14/11/1989 Backwards

15/11/1989 The Curse of Fenric, Part Four

21/11/1989 Marooned

22/11/1989 Survival, Part One

28/11/1989 Polymorph

29/11/1989 Survival, Part Two

5/12/1989 Bodyswap

6/12/1989 Survival, Part Three

10/4/2009 Back to Earth, Part 1

11/4/2009 Planet of the Dead

11/4/2009 Back to Earth, Part 2

12/4/2009 Back to Earth, Part 3

Not actually in the same week, but only 5 days apart:

29/9/2012 The Angels Take Manhattan

4/10/2012 Trojan

[Ben Saunders]

only 5 days apart:
29/9/2012 The Angels Take Manhattan
4/10/2012 Trojan

One of the most emotional weeks of my life, saying goodbye to Amy & Rory and having Red Dwarf back for a proper series for the first time in my living memory. I was so chuffed to be able to watch new Dwarf live with everybody else, except a girl I liked at the time tweeted that she stopped watching after the ad break because she didn’t enjoy it (it was her first episode) (and moose gag aside, fair enough)

[Warbodog]

I looked these airdates up when rewatching the McCoy era a while ago, but I didn’t feel any connections to Red Dwarf, the shows are too different in style, look, music, everything (except the occasional quarry). It reminded me more of CBBC dramas I watched at the time.

[Ben Saunders]

the McCoy era does look and feel rather CBBC at times, yeah.

[Flap Jack]

10/4/2009 Back to Earth, Part 1

11/4/2009 Planet of the Dead

11/4/2009 Back to Earth, Part 2

12/4/2009 Back to Earth, Part 3

Coronation Street vs. EastEnders

[Moonlight]

EDIT: Posting this in two episodes instead.

[Moonlight]

Never mind, I’ll just put it here.

Bodyswap and Bodysnatcher, both episodes with “body” in the title, are the ones where Rimmer is markedly more insane than he ever gets elsewhere.

Quarantine and Meltdown both have external explanations for him being more of a wackjob than usual. In Bodyswap and Bodysnatcher he’s just a complete lunatic on his own.

[Warbodog]

Don’t judge him until you’ve experienced being an intangible husk of a person for a couple of years and suddenly have the opportunity to get all of your senses back and a big dick.

[Unrumble]

[International Debris]

It reminded me more of CBBC dramas I watched at the time.

Yeah, definitely. Even ignoring the fact that RTD was a big Who fan, his Dark Season really feels like it shares a lot of DNA with the final couple of seasons of classic Who.

[Ian Symes]

I looked these airdates up when rewatching the McCoy era a while ago, but I didn’t feel any connections to Red Dwarf, the shows are too different in style, look, music, everything (except the occasional quarry). It reminded me more of CBBC dramas I watched at the time.

[tombow]

I enjoyed this Mac Batman interview – Mac McDonald Interview – Joker Goon actor in Batman (1989) – Batman-Online.com 

“I went off to the side of the sound stage and I’m sitting in this ‘easy chair’ that was for some other scene and I look and about 20ft away from me is Jack. He was sitting there on his own. Nobody else, just sitting there. So I thought “If they didn’t introduce me to him, I’m gonna introduce myself to him!” So I walk over to the rear of him, just to the side, and I said “Hiya Jack, I’m Mac, and I’m gonna be gooning for you for the next 6 weeks”. He didn’t look at me really, he just kept staring straight ahead, and after a little bit he goes “Goooooon ooonnnn, Mac”. And that was it. I just kind of stood there for a while…I mean he wasn’t gonna say anything else. So I just stood there like a lemon, and then after a bit I turned around and walked away. He never spoke to me again. Seriously. He spoke to all the other goons, including the running goons and the jumping goons, but he didn’t speak to me again.
…the make-up lady said “Oh Mac, I’ve gotta tell you. You committed an error in protocol”. I said, “What do you mean?”. She said, “Well, in Hollywood you never ever introduce yourself to the star. It’s OK if they want to introduce themselves to you, that’s fine, but you never introduce yourself. It just isn’t done”. So I thought that is f*cked up. I mean, we’re all just people. Ya know what I mean?! He’s supposed to be a nice dude…”

[Ben Saunders]

“I’m going to be gooning for you” has taken on a whole new meaning in recent times.

[Ben Saunders]

“Gimboid” comes back in a big way in XI/XII. Feel like they say it every other episode.

[Ben Saunders]

Has anyone else noticed the extremely weird edit when Kryten says “delegate” to Rimmer in the opening scene of Mechocracy? What the hell happened? 

[Technopeasant]

“Gimboid” comes back in a big way in XI/XII. Feel like they say it every other episode.

As I said in the Futurama thread, when a long running series reprise early catchphrases as callbacks.

[Moonlight]

“Gimboid” comes back in a big way in XI/XII.

They say it twice in XI and once in XII. I remembered one was in Give & Take, had to look up the others (Can of Worms and Siliconia).

Feel like they say it every other episode. As I said in the Futurama thread, when a long running series reprise early catchphrases as callbacks.

This feels different because the word “gimboid” isn’t a joke in of itself, whereas Hulurama was pretty much verbatim repeating season 1 jokes without adding much in its callbacks. The only one that worked for me was “I am already in my pyjamas” because (A) they hadn’t already made a habit of these callbacks yet and (B) that was an aborted running gag that only showed up in the second and third episode and it felt like a fun, random deep cut before they started trying to do it every other episode.

[loadoftottnumb]

One of those where everyone and their dog has probably noticed already but I have just picked up on the fact that in Backwards, in the cafe, Rimmer has combed his hair in a way to try and hide his ‘H’. 

[Quinn: Clochebusters World Champion]

One of those where everyone and their dog has probably noticed already but I have just picked up on the fact that in Backwards, in the cafe, Rimmer has combed his hair in a way to try and hide his ‘H’. 

These scene opens on him coiffing himself 

[Warbodog]

Oh yeah. I thought he was just covering it with his hand there, then no longer bothering/remembering. Always looking more at the moving background.

[loadoftottnumb]

One of those where everyone and their dog has probably noticed already but I have just picked up on the fact that in Backwards, in the cafe, Rimmer has combed his hair in a way to try and hide his ‘H’. 

These scene opens on him coiffing himself 

Seen the episode probably 20 times and never noticed, focused on the waitress and customer I spose.

[Quinn: Clochebusters World Champion]

25 years since it aired and I’ve only just realised the little silver badges on the crews uniforms in series VIII are canary cages

 

[cwickham]

That is probably the cleverest and most subtle thing in all of VIII

[Moonlight]

[clem]

25 years since it aired and I’ve only just realised the little silver badges on the crews uniforms in series VIII are canary cages
 

Mind slightly blown by this. Well spotted. 

(We do have a dedicated thread for this kind of thing: https://www.ganymede.tv/forums/topic/things-you-only-noticed-on-re-watches/)

[Rudolph]

I’m sure I read somewhere that the Canary badges also contained microphones to help pick up what the cast were saying.

[Flap Jack]

Makes sense. With dialogue that good you don’t want to risk the boom mic missing any of it.

[Moonlight]

Trying to figure out if this is a callback to same basic gag in Camille or Doug’s brain just did the same thing twice, 25 years apart.

[RunawayTrain]

Trying to figure out if this is a callback to same basic gag in Camille or Doug’s brain just did the same thing twice, 25 years apart.

I’m sure I’ve heard similar jokes in a couple of other things so, neat as it would be to actually be a callback, I think the latter is probably more likely.

[Flap Jack]

Considering the date…

Except for his immediate teasing with “Souper!”, this literally was the last time anyone on the show brought up the gazpacho soup incident. Lister didn’t even use it in his list of take-downs against alternate-Rimmer in The Inquisitor, nor did he use it to rile up nano-Rimmer, who wouldn’t have known he promised this. He’s truly a man of his word.

[Flap Jack]

Um, also, just a note to any watching admins, about the Smega-Drive: HTML links for Me² try to put “sup” tags within the alt text attribute, which causes it to go all fucky. Please fix this issue by the next time I include a Me² frame in a post after I’ve forgotten that it’s in an issue, in… let’s say 8 and a half months.

[Unrumble]

Except for his immediate teasing with “Souper!”, this literally was the last time anyone on the show brought up the gazpacho soup incident. Lister didn’t even use it in his list of take-downs against alternate-Rimmer in The Inquisitor, nor did he use it to rile up nano-Rimmer, who wouldn’t have known he promised this. He’s truly a man of his word.

[International Debris]

Considering the date…

Except for his immediate teasing with “Souper!”, this literally was the last time anyone on the show brought up the gazpacho soup incident. Lister didn’t even use it in his list of take-downs against alternate-Rimmer in The Inquisitor, nor did he use it to rile up nano-Rimmer, who wouldn’t have known he promised this. He’s truly a man of his word.

This is good headcanon for why he joked that Rimmer’s last word was “mummy” in The Beginning.

[Quinn: Clochebusters World Champion]

It is interesting how it is so much a part of his character, yet is only mentioned in that one episode.

I’m surprised Doug resisted the opportunity to serve gazpacho soup at the dinner in BitR

[Warbodog]

I was surprised to learn that “I was a kid” / “Sounds like you were Billy the Kid” isn’t actually *in* Justice, when I couldn’t find it on the Smega Drive. I had the Smeg Ups tape long before the proper episode, so will still have seen that deleted line more times than most other scenes.

Oddly, I don’t remember finding it amiss when watching the episode, unlike Lister scolding Rimmer for not eating on the right side of his mouth in Bodyswap, which is always notably absent for its relatability.

Any deleted bits that catch you off guard?

[Quinn: Clochebusters World Champion]

I was surprised to learn that “I was a kid” / “Sounds like you were Billy the Kid” isn’t actually *in* Justice, when I couldn’t find it on the Smega Drive. I had the Smeg Ups tape long before the proper episode, so will still have seen that deleted line more times than most other scenes.
Oddly, I don’t remember finding it amiss when watching the episode, unlike Lister scolding Rimmer for not eating on the right side of his mouth in Bodyswap, which is always notably absent for its relatability.
Any deleted bits that catch you off guard?

I had the Remastered for the longest time. So there’s edits that still catch me off. 

Black card / white card for example. Something about it doesn’t sit right in the episode for me. 

And Holly saying “yes God” in The End is a rare example of a good edition to an episode 

[Warbodog]

I had the Remastered for the longest time. So there’s edits that still catch me off.

Oh yeah, I have those for the first three episodes only, like Holly not darting around the screen on “Gordon Bennett, that was a close one.” I didn’t have the rest of Remastered on video, so it’s forgotten and just become trivia.

[International Debris]

 And Holly saying “yes God” in The End is a rare example of a good edition to an episode 

It’s the pause that does it for me. It’s like it’s been left for a Holly line which doesn’t come.

The other improvement is the extended scene at the end of Stasis Leak, which still feels really badly truncated on the proper version.

[Ben Saunders]

Most noticeable edit to me is definitely when they cut out the “past impossible never tense” speech from The Inquisitor, it feels very sudden after watching the smeg ups.

[Moonlight]

I am 100% sure the line is “past participle never-tense” considering it’s addressing grammar.

[Ben Saunders]

I am 100% sure the line is “past participle never-tense” considering it’s addressing grammar.

He says “participle” in the first smeg up, but it’s definitely “impossible” (or “and possible”) in the last one, when he’s reading it. I like “impossible” best.

In fact, upon reflection, I have decided it’s “and possible”. I think, maybe.

[Moonlight]

Either way it should be in the episode.

[Quinn: Clochebusters World Champion]

Most noticeable edit to me is definitely when they cut out the “past impossible never tense” speech from The Inquisitor, it feels very sudden after watching the smeg ups.

Yeah this is a really hard cut and difficult not to see the expected smeg up

[Nick R]

I am 100% sure the line is “past participle never-tense” considering it’s addressing grammar.

Good excuse to link to Sam Hughes’s page on time travel grammar:

https://qntm.org/streetmentioner

[Moonlight]

I know there’s no realistic way to figure this out but I would kill for hard data on how many times I’ve seen every episode.

[Warbodog]

I know there’s no realistic way to figure this out but I would kill for hard data on how many times I’ve seen every episode.

I know I’ve seen Fathers and Suns, Krysis, Siliconia and Timewave twice, but only because a community rewatch forced me to. Can of Worms too, but I don’t really mind that one.

From the oldies, I’ve seen the non-Xtended VII episodes three to four times ever, same as most of the Dave era that I wouldn’t put on especially.

[Warbodog]

Also Dear Dave twice, I forgot it existed. The Promised Land twice because it hasn’t been out that long. Back to Earth parts 1-3 three times, not the omnibus.

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