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Apparently they got that guy from Coronation Street and Robot Wars to be in Red Dwarf but the smegger wouldn’t leave.

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Kryten and Holly are both machines but they have completely different personalities. Kryten is dilligent and eager to serve; Holly is laid back and indifferent. Kryten has personal autonymy; Holly is trapped inside screens. A good writer can handle these two characters with ease and give them both air time.

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And nothing of value was lost

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On film, simultaneous events have to be shown successively; the exact order of events in a rapid action sequence is open to interpretation. It could be future Starbug exploding after Rimmer shoots the time drive, or it could be present Starbug exploding at the same moment Rimmer shoots the time drive. Both make perfect sense, cinematically.

Also, come on, “being erased from time by causality” is not going to be
visualised as a laser beam impact followed be an extremely tangible
explosion. It just isn’t

Sure it can, you just have biased expectations from years of watching other time travel shows. Have you ever seen a causality paradox resolve itself in real life? I sure haven’t.

Overall though, what makes the Out of Time ending uniquely good is that it becomes properly serious and then never undercuts it.

Absolutely!

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Hmm, it is exceptionally unlikely to recognise a set from an obscure, 20+ year old British TV show without key words in the prompt, let alone to pull the logo and apply it to an object without being instructed. Not expected behaviour at all. I suspect a rift in the space time continuum.

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Precisely. Then in TTR they needlessly added the extra shot of one Starbug definitely shooting the other Starbug for some reason, even though it added nothing to Lister’s explanation anyway. I know what I saw at the end of series VI, don’t try to gaslight me, Doug.

I don’t think you needed to undo it by giving Rimmer a reminder that he
can’t catch a break. That feels more of a Dave era type of thing.

You always hit the nail on the head, Dax!

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Something spooky happened last night. I asked AI for an image of the officers’ quarters and I was happily tweaking it when I noticed something. Check out the mug on the table, it has the Red dwarf logo on it, which was not in the original image and was not added by me. Ignoring my edits, this image was generated in a new chat thread where I had never mentioned I was uploading images from a TV show, I had never used the words ‘Red Dwarf’ or any other noun specific to the show, and I have absolutely never referenced the Red Dwarf logo, ever. Not only has it somehow recognised the room, it has also pulled the logo from somewhere. Is AI self aware? Is it a fan of the show? This is giving me the heebie jeebies. (Original screenshot for comparison)

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Too many to list!

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Nothing wrong with a naff resolution. In pretty much every episode they cheat death with a wave of the hand, and end on a gag. But series VII made the mistake of telling instead of showing.

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but I hate ‘Smeg! I’m a hero!’.

I’m curious to know what bothers you about it?

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“I can co-write mildly amusing dialogue”….    ‘co’ being the operative word

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They could have re-filmed the same scene with Series 7 costumes, if you prefer. I don’t have that luxury.

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But how does that Rimmer even know of it? Rimmer clearly first heard it after he died.

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Ah, by the way is there an instruction somewhere on how to create smooth animated gifs with the Smegadrive? I figured out how to make it snap between a two or three fames, but does that mean you have to individually click and add every single frame if you want (e.g.) a 1 second animation?

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I have looked at that thread a bit, but at over 200 pages I confess I only looked at the first and last half dozen pages or so. I got the impression it was just jokes and memes rather than serious episode ideas so I stopped looking, should I go deeper?

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Thinking about it, this isn’t a terrible way of generating new episode ideas…

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Don’t go!

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Until at least the 19th century, shirts were long, with the lower part serving the same function as underpants today (gathered between the legs, keeping your arse out of direct contact with your breeches). My guess is that moderns shirt tails are still descended from that older style, so there is a kind of folk memory of them, i.e. if you shit your pants, you use your shirt tails as emergency underwear. It is a pretty obscure joke, I agree. 

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Holly on the monitor, and the multitude of other AI generated crimes in these images… Your AI version looks nothing like them. It’s a bit weird you don’t see that.

I think maybe we’re looking at this with different expectations. Take this image; it’s a model Starbug and a model human figure. So if I were to create an AI upscale, would you expect me to aim for it to look like a real human-scale Starbug and an actual human Chris/Rimmer, or like a higher-res photo of the model starbug and model figure?

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These days boomer is just a casual insult for anyone who isn’t ‘hip’ and ‘switched on’ and ‘down with the latest tech’. If you prefer, I will substitute crypto fascist.

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I’m so tired of boomers who have just learned the phrase ‘Ai slop’ and don’t understand what it means. Humans produce slop all the time and it no one bats an eye. AI can never be a true photograph obviously, but it’s improving every day and when all you have is poor quality media and no superior ‘master tapes’, AI does a damn fine job.

BTW, if anyone can tell me what Rimmer’s certificates are supposed to say, I’ll fix them.

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They’re not posted same day, I have a whole archive already.

why is Officer Crabtree having a conversation with Vin Diesel?

Why indeed, you’ll have to ask the producers.

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Here, your majesties

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Once the text is so pixelated that it’s not readable I don’t see the point of editing it, how do you know what it’s ‘supposed’ to say if it’s just blur?

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Dude, I did photoshop the text in the smegging bunk room. Not to mention all the other defects, objects, and details that had to be photoshopped in or out. You can’t get that image just from an AI prompt. The fact you can’t see the photoshopping is because its practically seamless. I just missed that one bit of text for fucks sake!

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Regarding Parallel Universe, the crew could travel between ships by space walking (space suits and umbilical tethers), and Rimmer could be ‘beamed’ over or whatever.

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Is the crash fundamental? Isn’t the only requirement that the crew be dead, which is hardly a problem three million years into deep space?

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If Red Dwarf doesn’t have its own transport vehicles, does it at least have a landing bay for foreign craft? If so, other ships can still turn up, such as the Nova 5.

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It does tend to do that, yes, but black skin does have a sheen to it, and with makeup under hot studio lights I don’t think that is a good example to criticise. This on the other hand…

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Creating an image of the Starbug cockpit is incredibly difficult. The footage is really low res, dark, always full of people, and of course AI stuggles with the concept of ejector seats. It’s taken me a long time to create this. I’m not entirely happy with it, but it’s not terrible.

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I don’t really get why he’s still singing the “song” even when out of earshot of young Lister

He winks at adult Lister as he start singing it; he’s mocking him, and Lister glares at him.

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A lot of episodes could still happen, but instead of travelling to a another ship or planet, they would find these things hidden in unexplored parts of Red Dwarf.

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I just looked it up on wikipedia. I did not expect to read:
“Cast out into the world as a young adult, he is about to be gang raped by hoboes when…”

I mean, yeah, that does sound like it would be up Doug’s street.

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Marooned is my favourite episode

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OK after reading the article I think I see what you’re driving at. Series 5 was still finding the formula, whereas series 6 found the formula and served up a Macdonald’s BigMac for every episode. I get it now. Personally I have no problem with a formula, most successful sitcoms are formulaic.
Series 7, meanwhile, is endless callbacks (I think of it as the RD equivalent of the Force Awakens). I’m new to the forum so I’m still learning the intrinsic forum knowledge.

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There is a fairly significant difference in the writing between V and VI

And yet I’ve not heard a coherent explanation of the difference

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This is a strange forum.

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I concur. Series 6 is no different from 5; a series of episodic adventures. Series 7 went in a radically new direction.

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I’m quite pleased with this one. I nicked a photo of an original starbug model from the propstore, asked AI to adjust the lighting, then I stuck it on a modified BBC starry background and pulled down the saturation. I think it’s damn close to an early season model flyby. With enough of these I should be able to create new model footage.

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People think Kochanski was a replacement for Rimmer, but according to
Doug, no, she was added because they needed a female main character to
be part of the cast to help get a movie made.

The mistake was trying to make her Kochanski. Don’t cast a posh English girl and then tell me she grew up in Glasgow and is Lister’s long lost love. That’s why I never liked her; I’m not that gullible. If they couldn’t get the original actress they should have made her into a new independent character, which would have been fine.
e.g. a better story line would have been that she was the woman rescued by Ace Rimmer in Stoke me a Clipper, before he jumped to their dimension, and he had to leave her with them so she was forever searching for a way back to her own dimension. Or something.

British sitcoms don’t have structure? That’s a new one.

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