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I stand corrected! My confidence in RD continuity is restored.

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This whole time I thought he said “thermosanitroglycerine”, like a futuristic version of the chemical. Only just spotted the correct line in the smegadrive!

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* Rimmerworld moved so I am indeed dumb. The fact Rimmerworld is a
direct sequel to Gunmen underscores how this was never the intended
broadcast order though. *

I only noticed today that in Gunmen, Rimmer is wearing his soft-light red tunic even though it was broadcast after Legion, so he should be in his blue hard-light tunic. Colossal continuity blunder; series ruined!

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What other fan favourite characters would they have desperately brought
back in their gestalt Series VII?

A sentient triple fried egg butty with chilli sauce and chutney.

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It’s this docking clamp isn’t it?

Assuming the DNA ship is ‘normal sized’, that thing we see in the clip would be a tiny blip on the outline of Red Dwarf. I figure the huge arm is for clamping and drilling into asteroids, it makes sense to me that that is how Red Dwarf actually does its mining, since it doesn’t look suitably designed to actually land on the surface of any planet.

Here’s one I put together for the newer design, but just focused on propulsion system.

Very cool! I wish I could do 3D like that. I guess that’s why the crew sing “Red Dwarf? Heck! It’s more engine than deck!”

I have a great liking for the word “ramscoop”.

You’re right, I totally forgot that’s what it is called!

Can anyone remember references to large interior spaces/equipment other than ‘the diesel decks”? I remember the observation dome but that’s tiny.

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I’m working on a fantasy map of the ship. Could those of you with encyclopaedic knowledge of the source material suggest things I could include? I still have a lot of empty space to fill. 

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I quite like Cured. Broad, yes. But I love Hitler.

I, for one, have had quite enough of Hitler references and cameos in RD. There must be other historical characters Doug can think of.

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Lemons really grinds my gears because all the Red dwarf fans on Reddit absolutely love it. You’d think there had never been a better episode the way they clap like seals whenever it is mentioned. It must appeal to American sense of humour or something. 
Whereas I loath it. Full of all the wak gags, out-of-character behaviour, and bad Chris acting that is familiar to us. Moreover, I could just about buy it if Lister and Cat were the ones who needed a battery, but having Kryten there (who somehow now has less knowledge of DIY batteries than my mum), just makes the whole premise of *walking to India* eye-wateringly dumb. The whole episode reads like fan fic. Bad fan fic, not even good fan fic.

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I still think Smoke me a Kipper is as good as any Series I-VI episode and I wish it was somehow part of them. If someone would just fix the terrible CGI it would be excellent, but it would have to be a season finale (then Rimmer would return in the next season because reasons).

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Chef’s kiss for the clip choice!

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Still chugging away, trying to get a decent Starbug cockpit interior. I though I’d try using screenshots from series 7 because the film footage is better than 6. But still it’s still hard to find any shot that isn’t crammed with people and movement. It has also made me realise how inconsistent it is that the cockpit is so dark and dirty whereas the rest of Starbug is well lit and the sleeping quarters are practically immaculate!

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Obviously the BBC is allowed to reference real branded products, they goes without saying. But repeatedly calling one a bad product and making it the butt of a long running joke would be a recipe for a lawsuit today. I wonder if in the 1980s they just winged it, or did they do some kind of handshake with Golden Wonder.

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he genuinely reacted like that was the first time anyone had ever said that to him.

He’s clueless enough.

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Sir, surely anything from series IV is by definition proto-V?

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The one in Future Echos are fun enough. But the Dave era ones are too much, and have too much personality. The AI in the vending machines, toaster, the toilet, are funny when used sparingly, but Doug started to use them in lieu of additional characters.

The machines going on strike could have been really funny if they’d kept the machine dialogue minimal and more machine-like, as in Bodyswap.

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Unpopular opinion: The sentient vanding machines aren’t funny and aren’t a good vehicle for gags.

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When Kryten is crushed into a cube and said “I’m almost annoyed”, I thought he said “I’m almost a noyd”. For ages I wondered what a ‘noyd’ was; presumably some kind of cube thing.

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It was definitely censored for the first re-run on TV because I remember noticing it as a kid, the way Rimmer’s mouth moves but the ‘Mc’ part was clipped off. I didn’t know this was the reason why until you just mentioned it!

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How did they get away with saying Pot Noodle’s were terrible? The BBC is famously reticent about mentioning brand names, let alone having a long running joke that singles out one particular product and calls it terrible. Did they sign an agreement with Golden Wonder, I wonder?

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https://voca.ro/13sWDCevnipm

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Red Dwarf: The Other 33 Years. The next special chronicles the absolute
horrors of the survivors of the radiation leak, sealed in the bowels of
the ship. With no food, no water, no hope of reaching Holly, and no
escape,

Very H. G. Wells!

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It’s Holly we’re talking about, not Siri.

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Hurrah, another vote for the ‘they should have found Red Dwarf at the start of VII’ team

Bingo. The video I created at the start of this thread is a setup for that. 

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Apparently they got that guy from Coronation Street and Robot Wars to be in Red Dwarf but the smegger wouldn’t leave.

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Kryten and Holly are both machines but they have completely different personalities. Kryten is dilligent and eager to serve; Holly is laid back and indifferent. Kryten has personal autonymy; Holly is trapped inside screens. A good writer can handle these two characters with ease and give them both air time.

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And nothing of value was lost

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On film, simultaneous events have to be shown successively; the exact order of events in a rapid action sequence is open to interpretation. It could be future Starbug exploding after Rimmer shoots the time drive, or it could be present Starbug exploding at the same moment Rimmer shoots the time drive. Both make perfect sense, cinematically.

Also, come on, “being erased from time by causality” is not going to be
visualised as a laser beam impact followed be an extremely tangible
explosion. It just isn’t

Sure it can, you just have biased expectations from years of watching other time travel shows. Have you ever seen a causality paradox resolve itself in real life? I sure haven’t.

Overall though, what makes the Out of Time ending uniquely good is that it becomes properly serious and then never undercuts it.

Absolutely!

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Hmm, it is exceptionally unlikely to recognise a set from an obscure, 20+ year old British TV show without key words in the prompt, let alone to pull the logo and apply it to an object without being instructed. Not expected behaviour at all. I suspect a rift in the space time continuum.

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Precisely. Then in TTR they needlessly added the extra shot of one Starbug definitely shooting the other Starbug for some reason, even though it added nothing to Lister’s explanation anyway. I know what I saw at the end of series VI, don’t try to gaslight me, Doug.

I don’t think you needed to undo it by giving Rimmer a reminder that he
can’t catch a break. That feels more of a Dave era type of thing.

You always hit the nail on the head, Dax!

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Something spooky happened last night. I asked AI for an image of the officers’ quarters and I was happily tweaking it when I noticed something. Check out the mug on the table, it has the Red dwarf logo on it, which was not in the original image and was not added by me. Ignoring my edits, this image was generated in a new chat thread where I had never mentioned I was uploading images from a TV show, I had never used the words ‘Red Dwarf’ or any other noun specific to the show, and I have absolutely never referenced the Red Dwarf logo, ever. Not only has it somehow recognised the room, it has also pulled the logo from somewhere. Is AI self aware? Is it a fan of the show? This is giving me the heebie jeebies. (Original screenshot for comparison)

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Too many to list!

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Nothing wrong with a naff resolution. In pretty much every episode they cheat death with a wave of the hand, and end on a gag. But series VII made the mistake of telling instead of showing.

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but I hate ‘Smeg! I’m a hero!’.

I’m curious to know what bothers you about it?

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“I can co-write mildly amusing dialogue”….    ‘co’ being the operative word

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They could have re-filmed the same scene with Series 7 costumes, if you prefer. I don’t have that luxury.

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But how does that Rimmer even know of it? Rimmer clearly first heard it after he died.

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Ah, by the way is there an instruction somewhere on how to create smooth animated gifs with the Smegadrive? I figured out how to make it snap between a two or three fames, but does that mean you have to individually click and add every single frame if you want (e.g.) a 1 second animation?

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I have looked at that thread a bit, but at over 200 pages I confess I only looked at the first and last half dozen pages or so. I got the impression it was just jokes and memes rather than serious episode ideas so I stopped looking, should I go deeper?

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