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  • in reply to: Idea for an episode. #253399
    evarofzentral
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    THE UNREALITY BUBBLE

    The Dwarfers try to remember whether David Mitchell’s short-lived comedy news quiz was real or just a group hallucination caused by defensive system of a space station.

    in reply to: Justice and condemning holograms #230198
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    The Commonwealth Saga by Peter F. Hamilton has a form of immortality where people transplant their memories into newly grown young versions of their bodies, but the books only lightly touch on whether existence comes from the memories or a continuous stream of consciousness. If you think about it from the consciousness perspective, the people in those books effectively kill themselves every 50 years or so that another version of themselves has a younger body.

    There’s also an interesting legal argument as to whether Hologram Rimmer should be tried for human Rimmer’s actions or ommissions. The EU is currently in the process of considering introducing the legal concept of an ‘electronic person’ as opposed to a natural person (an individual) or a legal person (a company or organisation), which would mean that AI machines themselves could be, for example, sued for their actions or omissions rather than the company or organisation that uses/employs them. Now the argument could be made that hologram Rimmer is legally distinct from human Rimmer, and therefore shouldn’t be tried for human Rimmer’s actions or omissions.

    I think it’s mentioned more than once in the programme that holograms are company property (or maybe it was that the company is paying for their existence), but if they had legal status as an electronic person that wouldn’t be the case and instead there would presumably be some kind of contractual arrangement between holograms and JMC for instance.

    I guess there’s a debate whether AI machines in Red Dwarf have a legal status, given that mechanoids seem to be effectively slaves who are brainwashed into serving a single company through ideas like Silicon Heaven (unless they break their programming). Holograms are a different case however – the holograms in Holoship certainly seem to act independently from any company and Rimmer is given the chance to leave Red Dwarf, which would suggest that even as a hologram he was more like an employee rather than property. Perhaps crew members’ memories are not considered to be company property, and therefore Rimmer can transfer to the Holoship, but the light bee and projection are JMC property.

    There’s a decent and fairly concise summary of what the EU are considering here: http://www.cms-lawnow.com/ealerts/2017/04/do-robots-have-rights-the-european-parliament-addresses-artificial-intelligence-and-robotics

    in reply to: X or XI? #217389
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    I really like both X and XI, but unquestionably I preferred XI to X. I can see what people mean about X feeling more like a unified series, but it doesn’t really bother me that much. For me XI had higher highs, especially in Give &Take, Officer Rimmer and Can of Worms, and didn’t have anything I really disliked, such as Taiwan Tony and the medi-bot (but not the denti-bot), the last third of Entangled and the incredibly boring Rimmer subplot in Dear Dave. XI was more ambitious than X and for me was more consistent in quality.

    in reply to: PLOTS FOR SERIES 11 #211488
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    They all become computers, have a sex change between XI and XII and then get written out of the show.

    in reply to: Red Dwarf XI Confirmed? #210374
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    Richard Naylor has said a thing

    Richard Naylor ‏@RichardDGNaylor

    Remember that show Red Dwarf? Hang in there, should be some news soon.

    evarofzentral
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    The Simpsons one makes interesting reading. Weirdly ‘Homer the Smithers’ is the highest rated episode (not saying it’s bad, just a surprising one as highest rated). Unsurprisingly the ratings do decline post-season 8 (although I put 9 and 10 in my golden era).

    in reply to: Angela's informal rewatch #209843
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    Although I think Balance of Power is probably the weakest series I-VI episode, it’s still enjoyable and I often quote “I’ve been fished to death” albeit with different food items in place of fish.

    in reply to: Angela's informal rewatch #209808
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    I’ve always found Lister’s reaction to his son’s future death a bit cold. I’d be pretty upset if I found out my future son would die at the age of 25. I’m not surprised Old Lister wouldn’t explain what happened to Rimmer – “well you become someone called Ace Rimmer, then you com back again but alive, then you come back as a Hologram but we’re not sure what happened in between and whether you have the memories of just series VIII Rimmer or all of Rimmer’s memories”. I think Rimmer would be quesitoning whether Old Lister had be drinking the Marijuana Gin.

    in reply to: Wait a minute… #209783
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    Personally I think the show lost focus when it moved away from chicken soup machine repairs. I hung on for a while but when Rimmer left in series VII I knew Red Dwarf would never return to its core concept.

    in reply to: PLOTS FOR SERIES 11 #208745
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    Episode 1 – Hogey Part 1 – The Dwarfers face off against Hogey the Roguey in the promised cookery contest from Series X. Ainsley Harriott beams in to adjudicate only to be killed when he trips over a box and a bathtub of water falls on him. Antony Worrall Thompson replaces him, but steals the last bib from the denti-bot and havoc ensues.

    Episode 2 – Hogey Part 2 – Hogey asks the crew about their past adventures, prompting Kryten and the Cat to tell Marooned from their perspective. However, they are interrupted constantly by Taiwan Tony (to the extent that we are only shown clips with them in from the original Marooned) and havoc ensues.

    Episode 3 – Our robo Ross – Lister decides to change his name to Ross Lister but when the Dwarfers decide to return to the DNA ship Ross is turned into a robot and havoc ensues.

    Episode 4 – Hogey Part 3.33 recurring – Captain Hollister and the rest of the non-original crew return to Red Dwarf only to find that Hogey doesn’t like them much and havoc ensues.

    Episode 5 – Duct Loop – The tv channel Dave accidentally put Duct Soup on a constant loop for two days and havoc ensues.

    Episode 6 – Nan-achey – In a flashback episode Ross remembers back to when his Nan had an ache in her foot and havoc ensues.

    Episode 7 – 101 Kochanskis – Ross is delighted when Red Dwarf finally finds Kochanski on its scanners. However, when he, Hogey, and TT get down to the planet they soon realise they’ve got more than they bargained for. Kochanski has been cloned and the only way to find the real Kochanski is to search for the one that can stand on its hind legs like a little Rory Calhoun – havoc ensues.

    Episode 8 – Rimsy TV – With Kochanski returning to the ship Rimmer sets up a pay-per-view tv service of Kochanski in the showers and havoc ensues.

    Episode 9 – Last of the Summer Whine – Kryten makes the decision to stop whining about Kochanski only to go crashing down the cargo decks in a bathtub with Cat – havoc ensues.

    Episode 10 – The Black Seal – Rimmer is demoted to Third Technician by King Tony and decides to assemble the seven most evil scutters on Red Dwarf in order to have his revenge. But when Rimmer’s old adversary the revolving toilet from Balance of Power comes back to haunt him havoc ensues.

    Due to ten episodes being produced Series XI had to be shot exclusively in Shepperton woods to cut costs. However, this situation is not acknowledged in the series, with the characters just acting as if they are on Red Dwarf or wherever they happen to be. Nevertheless, fans will be pleased to note that perennially reliable games studio Gearbox has been hired to undertake the CGI required for the season, although they will be outsourcing some of the work to the makers of the acclaimed E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial on the Atari 2600.

    in reply to: Norman Lovett… #114261
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    Hello everyone! I’ve been reading the site for a while and I’ve finally got round to setting up an account on here.

    Anyway, looks like Lovett isn’t a big fan of Robert Llewelyn’s postings.

    Robert Llewellyn Rather off the topic of Faulkland veterans and Bottom, some interesting electric racing car footage. http://bit.ly/A8d5W2!

    norman lovett @bobbyllew I would sooner drink a load of ink than watch that video again

    Robert Llewellyn @normanlovett1 For goodness sake don’t follow the most recent link I posted then. Get the bottle of ink out and have a sip :-)

    norman lovett @bobbyllew bye bye

    Me: Lol

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